Review Good/Bad vs Hawthorn, R17 2022

[MRB37]

Can you do Laird stats too.

He was 42 disposals, 13 kicks, 29 handballs, 237 metres gained.

Top 4 disposal getters had 46 kicks and 78 handballs.

 

[Jirkago75]

The AFL will see how competitive we were against the top teams and reject it.

We need to push for it desperately. End of first round would be good. We are no better then north really

 

[ABAB]

Disposal still horrible. We haven't learned how to do it since round 1's pathetic example.
I turned off after Hawks' 9th goal. One of the causative factors was the example passage of play where, after a whole lot of excellent fighting by us, Berry got the ball on the flank and carefully guided the kick out of bounds under no pressure (no shanking or anything). This was immediately followed by Hawthorn's 2021 mid-season recruit getting the ball in exactly the same situation and kicking it straight to a teammate: goal! This was too much for me.
Schoey was terrible with his disposal: everything straight to the oppo. You can't win like that and you can't blame the coach for it.

On the other hand, when I turned back on in the last, we seemed to actually be playing football. ROB seemed to be trying in that quarter, and McHenry was everywhere. The umps were terrible, though.

Disposal improved a lot in the 2nd half......you didn't see them because you turned off lol.

 

[Scorpus]

Almost no one played well

Senior midfield accumulating meaningless, sideways, under pressure, garbage touches and having zero impact on the game while being a liability defensively

That pushes our (possibly) talented young midfielders into roles they weren't drafted for and don't really know how to play. The games of Hately, Soligo, Schoenberg and others all suffer as a result

This puts pressure on our defense as they are under siege. Everyone plays poorly as they're constantly out of position, defending laser entries under no pressure. And when they do get the ball they're under pressure as our midfield isn't offering them anything

Up forward we have the worst entries in the entire league. Our forwards are probably thinking of spots in the SA desert to drop off the bodies of the midfielders they're playing with.

We make a few small and completely unnecessary adjustments like adding Crouch back in and it has massive flow on effects across the entire team

 

[killtaker1993]

We need Clarko

 

[Greenfinger]

Crouch 28 possessions for 98 metres gained. 3.5 metres per possession. Unbelievable

 

[Geoffa32]

Disposal improved a lot in the 2nd half......you didn't see them because you turned off lol.

Playing quicker footy hides most skill errors.

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[CrowToon]

Yep, we’ve lost to all the teams around us in the same or a similar rebuilding phase. Hawthorn, GWS, Essendon. Nicks can spin it all he wants, we’ve gone backwards this year and his head is on the block.

It would give me great hope to know his head is on the block. But it won't be. That's the issue.

 

[ABAB]

We need to push for it desperately. End of first round would be good. We are no better then north really

North are getting smashed by 10+ goals and not even competitive against the top teams.

 

[Pugsley]

Good: The game ended

Bad: Sitting through 4 quarters of tripe

Ugly: Our coaches lack of gameplan and continous poor selection.

 

[huludicidal]

Hamill had some fantastic moments. Was definitely the best of our young brigade.

Berry continues to shine with his attack on the man and the ball. His decision making and execution by foot is awful though.

Crouch, as much as I can’t stand him, was actually pretty good today. Got a lot of handballs out to guys in good positions. Best game for the year from him.

Thilthorpe had some nice moments.

Jones was a complete abomination.

Tex was shit.

Soligo had a poor day.

Schoenberg made some bizarre decisions.

Laird had the worst 42 possession game the AFL has ever seen. Made horrendous decisions with about 30 of them.

Dawson got annihilated.

Hately was terrible.

Rowe was terrible.

Expecting this squad to magically produce silky skills is the definition of insanity. Our first round drafting is a laughing stock.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Walker rightly cracked the shits with Berry for not atleast putting the ball to his advantage.

When was the last time a kick from Laird, Keays, Smith or Berry went to the advantage side of one of our forwards?

I’m not talking about scenarios with Smith’s lace out to a free forward, I’m talking about where our mids needed to kick the ball to a contest - when was the last time they kicked it to the advantage side of our forward in that contest?

Walker cracks the shits at the young player but campaigns for Crouch's selection. Boys club.

 

[Bearded Clam]

all our problems start on the selection table and in the middle with ROB, Keays, laird and crouch.

the worst midfield combination in the comp.

keays is barely sanfl standard. just shit. a shit player who tries hard that was delisted by a club that knew he was shit and picked up by a club that prioritises trying hard over actual skill and decision making. he’ll never be good and is a total liability.

laird isnt a midfielder‘s arseh*le. never was and never will be.

crouch is a sanfl gun that is too slow for the AFL. the AFL level has passed him by.

ROB - can’t kick, cant mark, can barely handball and loves spoiling his team mates in marking contests which he does week in week out. and we would literally be better off going without a ruck with his shit tapping abilities and clumbsiness around the ground. hilarious the morons running the shitshow think he’s someone that maybe could be a forward.

all these guys need to go before anyone else.. and Nicksy and Roo can follow them out the door.

just a big FK U to the lot of them.

smith is cooked. shoenberg is garbage. murray i’m not sure on…

Milera isnt a forward. mchenry is a bust. Rowe hasnt got it. all these blokes need to be sent back to the sanfl.

 

[GROTTO]

We've gone backwards relative to other teams this season.

The way North played on Saturday, they would beat our team.

In fact I think they could beat us at Adelaide Oval.

The final humiliation for 2022 for the AFC.

 

[Crow_68]

Can anyone explain the maths to me?

Brodie Smith

33

Brodie Smith

Age

32

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

500.1

5star

D

17.1

4star

K

12.6

5star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

MG

438.9

5star

D

17.2

5star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.6

5star

- 24 possessions, 92% DE, 9 turnovers??

 

[CrowToon]

Parnell and Hamill, combined weight of about 60kg were two of our better players and didn't seem shy to put their weight, lacking though it is, into the contest.

Meanwhile Smith unopposed refuses to jump for the ball 15m out from the oppo goals resulting in a goal.

 

[1990crow]

We need Clarko

If there was ever a club and supporter group in need of Clarko, it's us.

 

[ABAB]

Playing quicker footy hides most skill errors.

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Still need to hit target by foot playing quick.

 

[Scorpus]

Special shoutout to Brodie Smith

33

Brodie Smith

Age

32

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

500.1

5star

D

17.1

4star

K

12.6

5star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

MG

438.9

5star

D

17.2

5star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.6

5star

who was especially horrible as far as senior players go.

He is offering us NOTHING. And he's in the leadership group!

Cannot kick to our advantage for the life of him. Defensively poor. Offers zero leadership on the field. Just bangs it on the boot long and hopes for the best

We all laugh at Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

getting 98 meters gained, but Smith having 800 meters but 9 turnovers is no better

 

[Scorpus]

Can anyone explain the maths to me?

Brodie Smith - 24 possessions, 92% DE, 9 turnovers??

Long kicks to a contest - always effective

But if the contest is lost and the opposition wins it, it's a turnover

 

[CrowBloke]

24 more months of this?

Won't be.
Not even AFC is dumb enough to hang onto Nicks for another 2 years.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Special shoutout to Brodie Smith who was especially horrible as far as senior players go.

He is offering us NOTHING. And he's in the leadership group!

Cannot kick to our advantage for the life of him. Defensively poor. Offers zero leadership on the field. Just bangs it on the boot long and hopes for the best

We all laugh at Matt Crouch getting 98 meters gained, but Smith having 800 meters but 9 turnovers is no better

The issue is the coaches will look at smiths stats (20+ disposals and 800 metres gained) and give him a tick.

They won’t look at the footage and note that smiths long bombs often go to opposition players uncontested.

Like seriously, how can you bomb it 55 metres to an opposition player on their own. Does smith need glasses?

 

[ABAB]

Won't be.
Not even AFC is dumb enough to hang onto Nicks for another 2 years.

He has rebuild the players relationship with the club after the CM so he has done his job......

 

[thebirdman 24]

I've worked it out - Hately is Dmac without the kicking skills.

Averages the same amount of possessions (roughly), weak body so can't play midfield and is prone to comical errors.

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[Afcprophet]

Is that the worst 40+ possession game you have seen.

Imagine McLeod with a 40 possession game