Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Northernsoul74]

Port fans pretty confident they have Dunkley going by their board.

 

[Here we go dogs]

Port fans pretty confident they have Dunkley going by their board.

If his willing to go to port, they wil probably have to compensate us fairly as west coast would put a bid if they are prepared to do for rankine.

 

[Sentinel]

Worth mentioning that Port don't hold a 2nd round pick at the moment, so their only currency is pick 8 and a couple of 3rd round picks. They should however get decent compensation for Amon, possibly end of 1st round.

If he goes there it's extremely unlikely that Dunkley would net us pick 8, so without any other prior pick trades you'd think we'll receive that compo pick and probably not much more.

 

[LittleG]

Worth mentioning that Port don't hold a 2nd round pick at the moment, so their only currency is pick 8 and a couple of 3rd round picks. They should however get some compensation for Amon, possibly end of 1st round.

If he goes there it's extremely unlikely that Dunkley would net us pick 8, so without any other prior pick trades you'd think we'll receive that compo pick and probably not much more.

Amon won’t get an end of first round pick. Second round pick at best. Bergman might get them a decent pick, IF they add the Amon pick to it.

Port will have to offer their future first IF the refuse pick 8.

I think pick 6 is fair value but apparently I am overvaluing Dunks.

West needs midfield time, so allowing Dunkley to explore he market is the right call.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Worth mentioning that Port don't hold a 2nd round pick at the moment, so their only currency is pick 8 and a couple of 3rd round picks. They should however get some compensation for Amon, possibly end of 1st round.

If he goes there it's extremely unlikely that Dunkley would net us pick 8, so without any other prior pick trades you'd think we'll receive that compo pick and probably not much more.

Pick 8 isn’t overs. He’s been one of our better players this year and is a Top 2-3 Mid at any club, in his prime.

Out of contract yes, but we should be playing hardball here. Top 10 pick at a minimum.

 

[Sentinel]

Amon won’t get an end of first round pick. Second round pick at best. Bergman might get them a decent pick, IF they add the Amon pick to it.

Port will have to offer their future first IF the refuse pick 8.

I think pick 6 is fair value but apparently I am overvaluing Dunks.

West needs midfield time, so allowing Dunkley to explore he market is the right call.

I think Amon is more likely than not to receive an end of 1st round pick, but we'll see. And I'd personally expect Dunkley's market value to be somewhere in the low-mid teens, as much as we probably value him higher than that. Very happy to be wrong though.

Additionally, if we're dealing with Port alone, we might not achieve what we think he's worth given he's uncontracted and a deal will need to get done if he requests a trade.

 

[Doggy]

I think Amon is more likely than not to receive an end of 1st round pick, but we'll see. And I'd personally expect Dunkley's market value to be somewhere in the low-mid teens, as much as we probably value him higher than that. Very happy to be wrong though.

Additionally, if we're dealing with Port alone, we might not achieve what we think he's worth given he's uncontracted and a deal will need to get done if he requests a trade.

There's a rumour around Port think they might get Wanganeen-Millera from Saints and bend them over as well despite the fact he is contracted.

They can't get everyone

 

[Sentinel]

There's a rumour around Port think they might get Wanganeen-Millera from Saints and bend them over as well despite the fact he is contracted.

They can't get everyone

I'm not saying Port are going to "bend us over", but we may not hold many tools at the negotiation table so I think any hopes of a top 10 pick are far from likely.

 

[dergert]

I hope Power reams the Power.

Our Power that is.

 

[Doggy]

I'm not saying Port are going to "bend us over", but we may not hold many tools at the negotiation table so I think any hopes of a top 10 pick are far from likely.

Then they run the risk of Adelaide taking him in the PSD.

He'd really be stupid going to SA when his partner will probably be in another state next year come July

 

[doggies ftw]

Coaching plays a part in that, as does list management. If you have players who can’t execute the coaches plan you either need players who can or you need a new plan.

This. Should be able to get more than enough good deliver inside 50 with the likes of Bont, Macrae (best deliverer inside 50 in the comp) & Libba. Yeah the likes of Baz & Adzy are more often than not going to slam it on the boot at full pace but that’s okay every team does that.

It’s a failure on our coaching/setup to not be able to design a system that gets the ball into these guys hands to deliver inside 50 & then no forward structure/cohesion to get players free to have somebody to deliver to.

And filling the wings/hff with butcherers doesn’t help either - the likes of Baz/Adzy/Hunter/McNeil/McComb/West//Roarke/VDM are usually filling these spots

 

[adogsfan5]

I must be the only one who is still confident in retaining Dunks

 

[doggies ftw]

I'm not saying Port are going to "bend us over", but we may not hold many tools at the negotiation table so I think any hopes of a top 10 pick are far from likely.

What leverage do Port have? Zero.

Pick 8 or nothing, Dunks is absolutely worth a top 10 pick and we won’t be accepting less, pretty confident on that.

 

[Sentinel]

Then they run the risk of Adelaide taking him in the PSD.

He'd really be stupid going to SA when his partner will probably be in another state next year come July

Without knowing all of his circumstances, it's probably a bit much to call any move really stupid.

 

[Sentinel]

What leverage do Port have? Zero.

Pick 8 or nothing, Dunks is absolutely worth a top 10 pick and we won’t be accepting less, pretty confident on that.

What leverage do we have if he requests a trade?

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Amon won’t get an end of first round pick. Second round pick at best.

C4, whose mail is often impeccable, has Amon getting a pretty massive contract (>$700k base).

 

[Mofra]

C4, whose mail is often impeccable, has Amon getting a pretty massive contract (>$700k base).

That puts him on tier 2 at least, end of first round pick

 

[doggies ftw]

What leverage do we have if he requests a trade?

Just as much as Port

 

[doggies ftw]

C4, whose mail is often impeccable, has Amon getting a pretty massive contract (>$700k base).

Man whose paying that for Amon

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I must be the only one who is still confident in retaining Dunks

It reminds me of the long drawn out negotiations we had with Brian Lake who ended up staying.

 

[Testekill]

Man whose paying that for Amon

That's what I want to know, Amon is good but not 700k p/a good.

 

[adogsfan5]

Man whose paying that for Amon

Clubs like hawks, north, dons can afford to pay that kinda money for the short term.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Worth mentioning that Port don't hold a 2nd round pick at the moment, so their only currency is pick 8 and a couple of 3rd round picks. They should however get decent compensation for Amon, possibly end of 1st round.

If he goes there it's extremely unlikely that Dunkley would net us pick 8, so without any other prior pick trades you'd think we'll receive that compo pick and probably not much more.

That would be a disaster. Surely he’s worth pick 8?

 

[Northernsoul74]

What leverage do Port have? Zero.

Pick 8 or nothing, Dunks is absolutely worth a top 10 pick and we won’t be accepting less, pretty confident on that.

He’s out of contract. If he nominates them … well you can guess the rest.

 

[Northernsoul74]

That's what I want to know, Amon is good but not 700k p/a good.

Hawks apparently.