Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Doggy]

Im talking cheaper options such as Sam Reid (Syd) McLean (Syd), Strachan (adel), Williiams (WCE), Briggs/Flynn (GWS). Also if our key forward depth got compromised I'd like to see English spend more time forward and have a 2nd ruck take primary duties if need be.

That's a pretty yuck list

 

[Dogsman16]

That's a pretty yuck list

Look if the club can make Darcy work down back for a couple of years to develop and then takeover Lobb's role, I'd be more happy about it.

I dont see Darcy and Lobb fitting in the same forward line for the next 2-3 years though.

 

[Doggy]

Look if the club can make Darcy work down back for a couple of years to develop and then takeover Lobb's role, I'd be more happy about it.

I dont see Darcy and Lobb fitting in the same forward line for the next 2-3 years though.

Having a shit ruck forward isn't going to change anything.

You either play Darcy there... and he isn't ready... or we get Lobb.

Going some scraping the barrell option isn't a good thing

 

[Northernsoul74]

Lobb is an opportunistic trade based on him wanting/needing to get back East to be with his wife. If Freo were willing to accommodate his wish with a reasonable deal great. If not, we should move on very quickly to something else.

 

[doggiesin08]

Someone on the Fremantle thread commented that Colin Young is the manager of both Rory Lobb and Griffin Logue and there's a feeling that if the club don't grant Lobb his wish even for unders then Young will agitate to get Logue to North through the pre-season draft rather than getting them something in a trade.

 

[Dogsman16]

Having a s**t ruck forward isn't going to change anything.

You either play Darcy there... and he isn't ready... or we get Lobb.

Going some scraping the barrell option isn't a good thing

Just my opinion I think Darcy is more ready for the role than what many on this board will give him credit for. I have him way ahead of JUH in terms of development at the same stage of their career (granted they play different roles and 2nd ruck is a different beast), especially regarding consistency.

 

[gordo2016]

Scoop from Jake Niall " Freo intend to keep Lobb." What else are they going to say? "Oh, we know Lobb wants to leave and we don't intend to keep him."

 

[Libbaaaa]

Scoop from Jake Niall " Freo intend to keep Lobb." What else are they going to say? "Oh, we know Lobb wants to leave and we don't intend to keep him."

Hilarious isn't it, I think we even said we'd be keeping Jake when he came out on trade radio in a denim tuxedo requesting a trade.

 

[Northernsoul74]

 

[TiAn_]

Just hoping we’ve done another Tom Boyd and been trying to word uo Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

29

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

all year or something.

Otherwise I don’t like the look of their draft hand for us…

 

[Trent85]

Dog 36 edit: Sid Nullis
Y'all get my vote for post of the decade let alone year. Great find

 

[Libbaaaa]

3 years at $500k per year will be fine for my taste.

 

[Dog 36]

Dog 36
You get my vote for post of the decade let alone year. Great find

Thanks BUT all credit should go Sid Nullis who found the article I just copied and paste because I don’t know how to do links etc

Thanks Sid Nullis

 

[Dogs Rule]

With Dunks going to Brisbane it will need to involve a player..
There isn't a player that stands out to me that would be remotely gettable.

Lohmann is my only interest.

Straight swap Dunkley for McCluggage.

If they want him, make them pay.

 

[HK_Bulldog]

Just my opinion I think Darcy is more ready for the role than what many on this board will give him credit for. I have him way ahead of JUH in terms of development at the same stage of their career (granted they play different roles and 2nd ruck is a different beast), especially regarding consistency.

Darcy is stick-thin, still growing and had stress fractures for most of the year.
The plan was to protect him but when he kept knocking the door down, the plan changed to ease him in as a Key back.
However, Bevo was trying to win games so he threw Darcy forward (in my opinion against the plan).
I still think we need to protect Darcy. If he plays substantial minutes next year as our preferred forward / second ruck next year, we may do what Collingwood did to Fraser and ruin him in the long term.

 

[Del203211]

Gut feeling for me is - Darcy goes back to CHB.

Jones - Gardiner - Darcy - Backs

Unless we get someone else really good in.

Naughton - Marra - Lobb - forwards.
Lobb can be a real headache in the air. And another pre season for Marra.
It’s an exciting forward line if Weightman learns how to crumb instead of flying.

 

[Dogsman16]

Gut feeling for me is - Darcy goes back to CHB.

Jones - Gardiner - Darcy - Backs

Unless we get someone else really good in.

Naughton - Marra - Lobb - forwards.
Lobb can be a real headache in the air. And another pre season for Marra.
It’s an exciting forward line of Weightman learns how to crumb instead of flying.

Amazing that just prior to Bruce's ACL, contemplating life without both Bruce and Keath in the team would have my jaw to the floor.

 

[Del203211]

Amazing that just prior to Bruce's ACL, contemplating life without both Bruce and Keath in the team would have my jaw to the floor.

Clint Eastwood moves better than Alex Keath and he’s 92.

Bruce is just an unknown now sadly.

 

[doggies ftw]

Clint Eastwood moves better than Alex Keath and he’s 92.

Bruce is just an unknown now sadly.

He was terrible this year, but I’m still holding out hope maybe with a full preseason and Jones taking some slack off him & allowing him to play his natural game we might get his best for another year or two. Would make a huge difference to get his best at CHB as an intercepting presence next year.

Jones full back & Buku/Darcy 3rd tall depending on match ups or if we need the extra height and Gardner first back up.

We can hope I guess

 

[Libba39]

Just my opinion I think Darcy is more ready for the role than what many on this board will give him credit for. I have him way ahead of JUH in terms of development at the same stage of their career (granted they play different roles and 2nd ruck is a different beast), especially regarding consistency.

Exactly why I don't think we should bother with Lobb.

 

[Del203211]

He was terrible this year, but I’m still holding out hope maybe with a full preseason and Jones taking some slack off him & allowing him to play his natural game we might get his best for another year or two. Would make a huge difference to get his best at CHB as an intercepting presence next year.

Jones full back & Buku/Darcy 3rd tall depending on match ups or if we need the extra height and Gardner first back up.

We can hope I guess

I’m still hoping we’re chasing one more big fish that’s a key back.

 

[doggies ftw]

I’m still hoping we’re chasing one more big fish that’s a key back.

Yeah me too just really struggling to see where it’s coming from, I just don’t understand if we’ve got no interest in Logue and I’ve even been vocally calling him overrated on here for some time - he would be a good fit for us. Surely we’ve sounded him out and either are interested & it hasn’t hit media or not interested due to the contract he’s getting or Freos asking price.

Even if it’s not a key defender I’d really just like another quality defender of any size, tall medium or small.

 

[BeMoreBont]

I'm with the others that want Brodie Grundy

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Brodie Grundy

Age

32

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

.

If English drops the bottom lip, then so be it. Trade him to West Coast and get Barrass. This bloke cannot hold us over a barrel and force us to play him as the number one ruck any longer. His lack of presence and competitiveness in the ruck has cost us numerous finals. Will it ever get any better? I'm thinking not.

Grundy and Barrass for English and Dunkley improves our side drastically for the next 3-5 years.

 

[bresker]

My main problems with Lobb is that he'll be 30 by the time round 1 2023 rolls around, and he's not some A grader who is going to take us from position 8 to top 4.

 

[ScottyDogg]

Anyone read Occas coaches corner on Bulldogs forum page on Facebook. It’s done by Paul O’Connor and other past players and there most recent one is bang on. Summarises our year , recruiting, selection, gameplan etc. We’ll worth the read. Past players are frustrated and have had enough as have most on here.

What a read! Basically what most of us have been saying for yonks.

I’ve asked it so many times: Why is this stuff so obvious to everyone outside the “four walls?”