List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[The Nostradamus]

It will get dun he will be a roo is what I heard

You hearing what is the potential trade to get Hunter over the line?

 

[JGreezy]

2 + Marshall is a good deal. 8 + Marshall is not.

I'm probably slow, but I still can't see how Port get 2 from WC.

I think 8 + F1 + Marshall is also acceptable, but I'm now lost in the confusion as to whether or not they can trade their F1.

The same arrangement as the mega deal except

• we get Marshall
• Port keep their F1, which lets them trade F2
• WC get Port's F2, pick 33 along with 8 and 12

 

[Kangaroos techno]

Port approaching the second week, having to 'seriously consider' including quality players was an inevitability, not lost on any party in trade discussions.

We may profit on the backend by way of picks, but I'd be upping the ante, and pressuring for a player.


- I would be in the ear of Miles Bergman.

He's an intriguing fit for our list and his versatility appeals. His two seasons in the top flight have been plagued by inconsistency due to injury and being trialled in different positions.

I'd suspect Bergman is more gettable than Sinn, but I'd take Bergman over Sinn regardless.

Just on Sinn - I would have loved to have seen some exposed 18's Champs form, to see where he was really at, but I'm not as high on his left boot as others. This was evident in his exposed SANFL form (irrespective of it being interrupted). He went nearly sub 50 percent disposal efficiency and 41 by foot during those games, which was poor.

This was not a surprise given what I saw in his NAB League hit-outs. He has a propensity to bite off more than he can chew, and lacks the technical execution to pull it off at times.

As an example, some would view his highlights vs Dandenong (where he looks great with the running bounce through the centre of the field, burning a couple of opponents with his pace). He predominantly played in the middle that game. His first seven kicks were ineffective including two kick clangers inside 50, before a 3rd out on the full under minimal pressure, with a shot on goal from 45 out.

I'm not sold on him as a general defender at AFL level.


Bergman has strings to his bow. Positionally and in productivity. His two games in early 2022 vs Melbourne and Carlton he looked comfortable at the level, before illness hit him at an inopportune time, ruling him out for a few weeks. He went back to the SANFL worked his way back into the side and showed some real promise in the last 8 games of the season at AFL level.

33 games into his career, he has a few weaknesses that I think can be fully developed.

I really hope we push for his return to Victoria.

Holy shit. The myth, the man, the legend

 

[buttox]

If you walk away from this trade period with Marshall, Logue, Tucker and Clark it certainly changes our structure and starting 22 for next year.

Both glaring holes in the list at kpf and kpd fixed with quality 24 year olds.
It would be awesome.

 

[roos 10]

You hearing what is the potential trade to get Hunter over the line?

Pick about 18

 

[Ashley B]

The times I have seen Marshall a little bit hit and miss . Reminds me a bit of Sam Reid

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Sam Reid

Age

33

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

Swans , has some attributes but can disappear for long periods.

 

[buttox]

Pick about 18

Thanks for sharing what you hear mate.
Much appreciated.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

The times I have seen Marshall a little bit hit and miss . Reminds me a bit of Sam Reid Swans , has some attributes but can disappear for long periods.

Anyone we target at CHF I would like to just provide structure, 5 marks a game and a relatively reliable kick inside 50. Goals are a bonus.

This until whichever KPP we draft this year/Comben can cement a spot in the side.

 

[LB2Snake]

Just get this bloke in the deal……got Clarko written all over him.

 

[the flying ham]

Larkey > Marshall. Larkey had worse delivery, less of it, and either a ruckman or JZ/CZ as his offsiders. Marshall had better entries, more of them and a support act that genuine tall fwds in Dixon, Georgiades. That said, he'd be a welcome addition to our fwd line. Not the crash and bash type I'd hope for, but perhaps gives us more time to get comben into that role. Still, 8, f1st and Marshall. We send back a f2 or f3

 

[Usayed Givashe]

The times I have seen Marshall a little bit hit and miss . Reminds me a bit of Sam Reid Swans , has some attributes but can disappear for long periods.

So basically Larkey?

Which is why he’s not a great fit for us.

 

[Kangaroos techno]

Would prefer Marshall over Sinn and Bergman. Sinn's injury record is less than stellar. Haven't seen enough of him. Bergman looks promising but I'm hoping Tucker plugs a hole in our team. Marshall fit's a need. I'd prefer not to reach for Cadman.

Ideally I'd like Marshall and 2 so we can get Sheezel and Wardlaw. Would settle with 8, Marshall and F1. Death ride them and hope they blow up next year.

Trade 1 for 3, 12 and 18. 18 for clark.

 

[Ashley B]

Not sure Comben will ever make it. Certainly hope to be proven wrong, but his body just doesn’t seem to be able to cope with the rigours of AFL.

 

[buttox]

Not sure Comben will ever make it. Certainly hope to be proven wrong, but his body just doesn’t seem to be able to cope with the rigours of AFL.

I agree.
Hopefully we are both proven wrong.

 

[Mr Lloyd Christmas]

Hunters Host #3

Great post HH3 and welcome back.

Hope you can post more mate, quality as always.

 

[buttox]

So I was all excited for trade period this time last week. That all went to shit with the jhf news.
I think we will have a better week this week. Got some shiny new toys coming in!

 

[the big lebowski]

Not sure Comben will ever make it. Certainly hope to be proven wrong, but his body just doesn’t seem to be able to cope with the rigours of AFL.

He didn’t get the injured this year

 

[The Lone Latic]

This is a comment made on one of facebook pages on Todd Marshall:

“Hearing from a decent source that big Todd Marshall has been asked the question and has told Port that he is willing to come across to Arden st.
8 + future 1st pick and Marshall”

I'd take that. Then send pick 1 to GWS for 3 + 12 + 15 (whatever additional picks on top of 3 ans 12 to round it out because I think we can get more than just 3 + 12). See if we can bundle a few to WC (8 + 12?) for 2 and take the 2 best that fall to us and not reach for Cadman because Marshall addresses (temporarily) the KPF issue. Flip 18/19 if we get that to St Kilda for Hunter if we are still chasing him

 

[Hunters Host #3]

Sorry mate not across the prospects at the moment. I'd want more than 12 and 15 for pick 2 though. I'm not opposed to drafting him but I think the Cadman comparison to J.Cameron is generous. The latter was near dominating TAC Cup as a 17 yo.

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He was a wonderful prospect.

I remember him kicking 4.5 or 4.6 vs the Pioneers and he had something like 15 score involvements for the day.

One week, he would be low touch, high impact close to the goal. The next, he'd push up the ground and find it a whole heap more, still punishing opponents.

Freak as an under-ager.

 

[Ashley B]

He didn’t get the injured this year

I am sure he missed the start of the yr and then had a bolt taken out of his leg from a previous injury midway because it was sore.

 

[My Left Foote]

Only if we have pick 2 in our possession first! Then we’re guaranteed to pick two of Wardlaw/Sheezel/Tsatas. If we trade pick 1 and don’t have pick 2 we’re just waiting for the left overs, relying on who WCE pick and would’ve diluted our pick for no reason.

Yes, it was based on the assumption that we had pick 2.

 

[buttox]

He didn’t get the injured this year

He missed games after having screws taken out of his leg.
Like a month out.

 

[Kangaroos techno]

He didn’t get the injured this year

His previous injury still dragged into this year and required surgery. It is a worry.

 

[G0ther00s]

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I’m sorry but wouldn’t you rather have expectations low and be pleasantly surprised rather than set them high and be horrified later.

 

[G0ther00s]

The times I have seen Marshall a little bit hit and miss . Reminds me a bit of Sam Reid Swans , has some attributes but can disappear for long periods.

If I recall correctly until this year Port fans didn’t like him. I feel like he got Bronx cheers regularly.