Opinion Did Taranto and Hopper make a mistake leaving the Giants for Richmond?

WillHayward · May 1, 2023

Probably a win all round.
Richmond are ok for when Cotchin and Martin retire .
GWS can rebuild.
I'd say everyone is happy here.

Pure_Ownage · May 1, 2023

Elmer_Judd said:
You do know if West Coast finish last, GWS are likely to trade up for Harley Reid using the pick you gave them for Hopper ...

No one is trading pick 1 this year.

hawkman · May 1, 2023

Pure_Ownage said:
No one is trading pick 1 this year.

There will be some big offers for pick 1. Talk of 3 1st round picks

Jhye Clark 13 · May 1, 2023

hawkman said:
There will be some big offers for pick 1. Talk of 3 1st round picks

How many teams have 3 first round picks to part with?

hawkman · May 1, 2023

Jack The Godfather said:
How many teams have 3 first round picks to part with?

Melbourne, Bulldogs, North and GWS currently

PrinceCharles · May 1, 2023

General Giant said:
No, they didn’t want to be at the Giants. All the best to them.
It’s actually worked for our list.

And we got, possibly, some great picks.

None of that has anything to do with the question.

Jimmy95 · May 1, 2023

Pure_Ownage said:
No one is trading pick 1 this year.

West coast would if there's quality WA talent in the first round.

Colonial · May 1, 2023

PrinceCharles said:
None of that has anything to do with the question.

It does actually, they didn’t want to be there and now have 7 year contracts where they wanted to be. So no they don’t regret it.
As an added bonus we don’t regret it either.
But I’m sorry my answer didn’t reach to your standards. Honest. Disappointed in myself.

Sttew · May 1, 2023

Lsta062 said:
No if you look at it financially. They both are getting decent salary with long-term contracts. GWS had salary cap issues and a lot of midfield talent while Geelong and Collingwood were probably not going to offer either the salary/contract length that we offered them.

From a success perspective, Geelong and Collingwood would’ve probably been better options for them, but that was probably already clear when they were making that decision. Looks like their priority was financial security, which actually makes sense in this current economy. Richmond probably was attractive because there was a possibility of on-field success as well given our recent history.

Geelong was in to Hopper but wouldn’t match what Richmond offered

PrinceCharles · May 1, 2023

General Giant said:
It does actually, they didn’t want to be there and now have 7 year contracts where they wanted to be. So no they don’t regret it.
As an added bonus we don’t regret it either.
But I’m sorry my answer didn’t reach to your standards. Honest. Disappointed in myself.

It's got nothing to do with the Giants, the whole point of the question is whether or not they chose the right club to move to.

Elmer_Hauser · May 1, 2023

Pure_Ownage said:
No one is trading pick 1 this year.

West Coast, given the lack of quality youth on their list, would almost certainly would.

Tiger2709 · May 1, 2023

hawkman said:
Sure but the future 1st for Hopper is a worry. If it turns into a top 6 pick then it hasn't been worth it. Taranto's trade was fine

We will never know who we may have picked with the Hopper first rounder nor how they would have gone at our club, so best to judge it on how Hopper plays for Richmond over the life of his contract.

RUNVS · May 1, 2023

I have never rated guys like Taranto, Hopper, Shiel and so fourth. Always thought they were massive downhill skiers who only avoided criticism because they were up at GWS.

GWS has a history of producing really poor midfielders who don't stand up in the important games so if I would avoid trading for any of them.

catters_28 · May 1, 2023

RUNVS said:
I have never rated guys like Taranto, Hopper, Shiel and so fourth. Always thought they were massive downhill skiers who only avoided criticism because they were up at GWS.

GWS has a history of producing really poor midfielders who don't stand up in the important games so if I would avoid trading for any of them.

You'd certainly know all about downhill skiers.

demondavey · May 1, 2023

Pure_Ownage said:
No one is trading pick 1 this year.

If WC get pick one I doubt they’ll risk drafting Harley Reid for him to want to go home after 2 years. It’s just not worth it anymore, not after the JHF debacle. Personally, if I was drafted to WC I’d be stoked. What a club to land at, but kids don’t think that way and they are a flight risk which you’ve got to mitigate.

The AFL needs them locked in for 5 years. 18-23. Your best years are 24-29 most likely anyway, by then you can go where you want got the coin you want.

demondavey · May 1, 2023

catters_28 said:
You'd certainly know all about downhill skiers.

Shit post

demondavey · May 1, 2023

Elmer_Judd said:
West Coast, given the lack of quality youth on their list, would almost certainly would.

They’re better off drafting from WA or SA anyway. No point drafting Reid, developing him for 2 years then having him land at Carlton.

Colonial · May 1, 2023

PrinceCharles said:
It's got nothing to do with the Giants, the whole point of the question is whether or not they chose the right club to move to.

Yep which was answered in the 1st part of the answer Princey.

The Giants perspective was just an add.

Enjoy your night Highnessness.

Kreuuuzeurns · May 1, 2023

demondavey said:
They’re better off drafting from WA or SA anyway. No point drafting Reid, developing him for 2 years then having him land at Carlton.

Hmm personally I see a point in that.

Pure_Ownage · May 1, 2023

Lsta062 said:
No if you look at it financially. They both are getting decent salary with long-term contracts. GWS had salary cap issues and a lot of midfield talent while Geelong and Collingwood were probably not going to offer either the salary/contract length that we offered them.

From a success perspective, Geelong and Collingwood would’ve probably been better options for them, but that was probably already clear when they were making that decision. Looks like their priority was financial security, which actually makes sense in this current economy. Richmond probably was attractive because there was a possibility of on-field success as well given our recent history.

That tells me why it was good for them.
Doesnt say why it was good for richmond though.

Pure_Ownage · May 1, 2023

demondavey said:
Tigers are going to need replacements for Cotchin, Prestia and Martin. They’ve got two mature bodies to do that. They’ve also got some decent KP replacements. Those two will be getting a fairly good wage. Win for both. Richmond will drop but that’s inevitable.

What KP replacements?

PrinceCharles · May 1, 2023

General Giant said:
Yep which was answered in the 1st part of the answer Princey.

The Giants perspective was just an add.

Enjoy your night Highnessness.

'They didn't want to be at the Giants'. Great, insightful.

demondavey · May 1, 2023

Pure_Ownage said:
What KP replacements?

Balta and Cumberland are looking good

demondavey · May 1, 2023

Kreuuuzeurns said:
Hmm personally I see a point in that.

In all seriousness, why do it? You’re running a huge risk with kids these days. Eagles better off trading that pick for two picks they can use on homegrown talent.

PrinceCharles · May 1, 2023

demondavey said:
Balta and Cumberland are looking good

The 183cm Cumberland?

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