Autopsy We are Jacks complete lack of surprise - demolished after quarter time by Melbourne - the end draws ever closer

[Lomas]

Ending *’s season next week would be glorious.

It will be.

 

[koshari]

It will be.

They are crap, but far superior to us.

 

[Passmore]

Yep - the serial self titled 'positive' posters on here - who speak absolute dribble on a weekly basis and are still doing it 4 years on! If we had anything like 1/100 of their so called positive comments come to fruition we wouldn't have lost 18 in a row and be the basket case we are.

But of course the 'must find positives' crap continues to spew out - always oblivious to our actual performance over the past 4 years.

As you say these posters are just losers who are happy losing and there will always be plenty of these campaigners in life and they are best avoided.

What do “winner” supporters do? Put a foot through the telly? Get really, really angry on the internet?

 

[Psicosis]

From a system perspective I don’t like that Clarkson/coaching group allow an opposition extra wing at stoppage.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

What do “winner” supporters do? Put a foot through the telly? Get really, really angry on the internet?

No - its like life - try and present both sides of the argument and accept where you are at without trying to invent garbage.

It's actually not that hard.

 

[shinboner magic]

The only thing with this is isn’t Stepho older?
If he hasn’t got an idea about how to play by now, the door is coming

It’s about running till you throw up and not coasting

From a system perspective I don’t like that Clarkson/coaching group allow an opposition extra wing at stoppage.

Especially when Gawn is the other ruck
It was mind boggling

 

[Only Forwards]

From a system perspective I don’t like that Clarkson/coaching group allow an opposition extra wing at stoppage.

Lost us the game last week.

 

[Mav]

The good ones do.

Might improve the standards, but it’s a massive step up. Look at Sheez, he’s rooted.

 

[Passmore]

No - its like life - try and present both sides of the argument and accept where you are at without trying to invent garbage.

It's actually not that hard.

Good idea. You should try it.

 

[Epictetus]

TT is one of the few that can get the ball and you're confident something good will happen at worst. At best he can make blokes look a bit silly and we score.

Understand the off field stuff may have cost him and he may leave, but it's hard to replace what he does well in the current state.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

Good idea. You should try it.

I'll let you know when you have passed.

 

[Passmore]

I'll let you know when you have passed.

Passed what? Away?

 

[Brian Fontana]

Bailey Scott

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Bailey Scott

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.9

3star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.8

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

CL

0.6

3star

absolute stands out as a FiT player vs the rest of our team and shows what the difference between being fit and unfit is.

If he was as fit as our other players we would all say he’s a potato.
But he’s out top 3 because he had a great tank and is forever chasing, providing option, is a link man and doesn’t stop.

Genuinely 80% of our problems are fitness related. You could have the worlds greatest masterminds and gameplans in place and bring over bontempelli and Curnow and we would still be absolute puss because we cannot run and chase for more than 40 minutes a game.

Once that happens no one provides options, no one can chase more than one or two efforts and then the bottom 6 unfittest just let the game play fall apart.
We then resort to chip and kick down the line because the other team is all over us and we can’t get out of our own way.

Honestly need to throw the sink at burgess in the off season.

 

[Souup]

We have too many shit decision makers or those who choke under pretty basic pressure: Taylor, Stephenson and Tucker were horrible. PC was terrible and has had too many games like this this year - willing to give him a pass as he's only in his second year but he needs to get serious over the preseason. RHJ also wasn't great but it's his 2nd game so hopefully, like PC, he's better with an AFL preseason under his belt.

Apart from that, we are just not fit or strong enough or willing to work for one another. I would actually argue that the issue of poor decision making and not working for one another is a large part due to a lack of fitness. It is much harder to make good decisions when you're absolutely spent. Don't get me wrong - I feel like we have some poor decision makers on our team, but their issues are even more obvious with a lack of fitness. We have been smashed by injury this year so there's a sense in which that impacts your fitness level, but I don't think the base was good to begin with entering the season.

On the bright side, I reckon we had 15 AFL quality players out there who can contribute in a meaningful way for at least the next few years. We just need to get fitter and remove the continual poor ball users out of our best 22.

 

[William Caresser]

After quarter time was a bit damning.
We literally never have exciting, unexpected wins. We are never, ever, ever pleasantly surprised.

The most we get? A quarter. Maybe a quarter and a half. That’s it.

That's because it's like we're someone ranked 500th in the world for running over 10,000 metres but we're allowed to compete against runners ranked in the top 20 or so week in week out, head to head.

We have zero chance of winning a race. We've never run a time close to the times of the top 20 runners. That's mainly because we never work hard enough in our off season, even though we delusionally think we do. Our opposition, on the other hand, prepare like professional athletes.

We sometimes fly out and are winning after 100 metres and even 4km. But then there's nothing more predictable in life than our opposition cruising past an exhausted us ... even if they've fallen over 10 times and have chronic diahorrea. There is one other runner ranked 520 but we recently found out we're even lazier than them.

Until we actually do something about our off season training, we will never win a race against these other runners. There never can be an upset. But we do get paid very well, attend a day care centre for adults most of the year and summer holiday camp where we mainly stuff around.

 

[Spud11]

That's because it's like we're someone ranked 500th in the world for running over 10,000 metres but we're allowed to compete against runners ranked in the top 20 or so week in week out, head to head.

We have zero chance of winning a race. We've never run a time close to the times of the top 20 runners. That's mainly because we never work hard enough in our off season, even though we delusionally think we do. Our opposition, on the other hand, prepare like professional athletes.

We sometimes fly out and are winning after 100 metres and even 4km. But then there's nothing more predictable in life than our opposition cruising past an exhausted us ... even if they've fallen over 10 times and have chronic diahorrea. There is one other runner ranked 520 but we recently found out we're even lazier than them.

Until we actually do something about our off season training, we will never win a race against these other runners. There never can be an upset. But we do get paid very well, attend a day care centre for adults most of the year and summer holiday camp where we mainly stuff around.

Are we being too negative?

 

[Spud11]

I love how Kingy sits on First Crack with his laptop open. What a tosser.
Mate, in your playing days you barely knew how to turn a computer on!

Joking. Love ya Kingy.

 

[berniemccarthy]

Bailey Scott absolute stands out as a FiT player vs the rest of our team and shows what the difference between being fit and unfit is.

If he was as fit as our other players we would all say he’s a potato.
But he’s out top 3 because he had a great tank and is forever chasing, providing option, is a link man and doesn’t stop.

Genuinely 80% of our problems are fitness related. You could have the worlds greatest masterminds and gameplans in place and bring over bontempelli and Curnow and we would still be absolute puss because we cannot run and chase for more than 40 minutes a game.

Once that happens no one provides options, no one can chase more than one or two efforts and then the bottom 6 unfittest just let the game play fall apart.
We then resort to chip and kick down the line because the other team is all over us and we can’t get out of our own way.

Honestly need to throw the sink at burgess in the off season.

The bolded bit x100

 

[William Caresser]

Are we being too negative?

It's more a case of looking at why we haven't won for 4 months. The number one reason is there's a level of fitness you need - a threshold - to allow you to cause an upset. You can't fluke fitness. If you don't have it, the opposition will always overrun you and find it easy to score.

But if you do reach a certain fitness threshold, even if it's not that high, you'll fluke a few wins when the opposition has a bad day and your skills etc are better than they normally are. But our fitness is so so low, that we can't even fluke a win.

 

[toepoker]

If they handed out premierships for slipping over we would be Brisbane 2001-2003

 

[DocSholl]

I reckon our best passages of play in the last quarter all seemed to involve Thomas. We cannot afford to ship that quality out of our Club.

23 touches, 10 clearances, 8 tackles, 7 inside 50s and what should have been a ripper goal is a fair game from someone disinterested.

 

[Briedis]

Comparing the forward line to the backline, you might expect the focus at the draft to be on bringing good backs in.

While our backs need to be addressed, we will be going nowhere unless we address the pressure in the front half.

Curtis just needs to never see seniors action until he proves he is both fit and interested enough to have any defensive side to his game.

We just cannot afford to carry Stephenson if we are serious going forward. While his goal kicking has been a positive this year and -for his size- he has good tackling technique, we simply need yo make a decision with him. I would almost prefer to see his vision and offensive smarts as a playmaker out of the back half if we are determined to play him going forward.

Hansen Jnr may have it but he is nowhere near it yet.

TT is a completely frustrating player. While the stars say he had 8 tackles, the eye test showed up a guy who was really only interested in breaking away when he had the ball.

Sheezel was kind of unsighted today. Please can we just play him the front half for the rest of the year. It may seem like an impossibility considering his incredible talent and smarts, but I wouldn’t put it past North to develop him into a complete plodder.

Phillips had moments where he was good but mostly didn’t do enough.

Depressingly, we would have been completely flogged if it wasn’t for the work of our soon to be retired Ziebell, our co-captain McDonald (turned the clock back to 2020-well done) and Turner.

Arch cracked in and provided a bit of entertainment.

Ford had a brilliant first quarter and then went home.

It was good to see Larkey take a couple of timely marks but when you get so few genuine chances, he really needs to nail 80%+ kicks on goal. I know he is at 73% and leading the league.

Tucker did some good things and quite a few very frustrating things that completely effed up our momentum at times.

Goater, Corr and Taylor were ok.

Bailey needs to be a vice-captain. He will probably win our B+F this year.

Simpkin fought his way back into the game.

LDU had an almost game despite still getting 27 possies.

Wouldn't mind seeing Sheez and Stevo swap playing positions. Stevo was pretty good off half back last year and means Sheez can go forward and provide some goalscoring class and defensive grunt up there.

 

[JGreezy]

Wouldn't mind seeing Sheez and Stevo swap playing positions. Stevo was pretty good off half back last year and means Sheez can go forward and provide some goalscoring class and defensive grunt up there.

If its a 3 way swap that sends Stevo to the vfl then I might agree.

 

[Gasometer]

Then the real battle begins. Cause if we lose this draft period there will be blood.

 

[Gasometer]

By AAP with Sophie Welsh

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Retiring Kangaroos veteran Jack Ziebell, who hadn't featured in the AFL since round eight, notched a team-high 32 disposals.

They don't know what's going on but still have a job.

Yep it’s North Melbourne