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I have prepared consensus power rankings for October based on Rookie Me, AFL (Cal Twomey), ESPN and HUN power rankings
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weltschmerz said:
Direct quote from potential draftee Riley Hardeman: “I was and I still am a Saints fan, unfortunately."
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I read that article, it was quite bizarre. He was talking about the possibility of being drafted to the saints as bittersweet.. I assumed he supported a team that saints had a good record against -- but no, he's a saints fan. A realistic type of kid who knows their history lol
 

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Did anyone hear the interview with Sandy Dragons coach Rob Harding on SEN 1116 Sportsday yesterday? If not, it's worth a listen. He spoke about how recruiters are heavily focussed on speed and power players as that's the way the game has changed so it got me thinking to put a bit of a different lens on the usual rankings..Who are the quickest and most powerful kids on the ground? I'm not talking about combine results as the conditions are sterile and not the same as game day and GPS data. My thoughts in order on the top 10 or so quickest quickest and power draftees. I'm sure I've missed a few but it will be interesting to see where these kids land. The next question is what teams need speed and trying to match the team picks with the player range.

  1. Philactides - easily the quickest in the CTL with ball in hand and very powerful. First 3 steps power creates the separation. - Draft range 30+
  2. Walter - his power to drive his legs for such a big guy is great. The power turns into speed very quickly. All the best fwds are quick over 10-15ms - Draft range 1-5
  3. Windsor - probably the second quickest with ball in hand. Power needs some work but he will get stronger once he's an AFL player - Draft range 7 - 15
  4. Watson - His power and speed is what makes him so exciting. Regularly gets separation on leads because of his power. - Draft range 3-10
  5. Hastie - Showed in the latter part of the season that his speed is an asset. He did get run down a few times so its not lightning but, his first steps is what buys him time to create the separation. This is produced by his power output. - Draft range 30+
  6. H. Reid - very powerful through his hips, hence his ability to break tackles. He's not blessed with lightning speed though. - Draft range #1
  7. DeMattia - Speed is good and his power thru the contest is great. Likes to drive his legs. - Draft range 18+
  8. ZZ - Quick for a big guy which is a bit of a weapon for him to have a point of difference but his power is lacking. - Draft range 25+
  9. Graham - has a nice mix of speed and power. This could eventually translate to a strong inside mid. - Draft range 30+
  10. Simpson - Also has a good mix of speed and power. Could see him playing HHF at AFL with his speed & power - Draft range 30+
  11. Sanchez - Has got some nice deceptive speed. Similar to watson but not as powerful - Draft range 30+
  12. Guys like Rogers, O’Driscoll and Collard are quick on the flat surface at the combine but don't always transfer the speed game day (atm anyway)
 

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On the weekend before the draft Lore, can you please lock this thread just as the draft coverage thread is created?

Thank you.

I wanna say something on the weekend before you shut this thread up for good.
 
The_General#1 said:
Did anyone hear the interview with Sandy Dragons coach Rob Harding on SEN 1116 Sportsday yesterday? If not, it's worth a listen. He spoke about how recruiters are heavily focussed on speed and power players as that's the way the game has changed so it got me thinking to put a bit of a different lens on the usual rankings..Who are the quickest and most powerful kids on the ground? I'm not talking about combine results as the conditions are sterile and not the same as game day and GPS data. My thoughts in order on the top 10 or so quickest quickest and power draftees. I'm sure I've missed a few but it will be interesting to see where these kids land. The next question is what teams need speed and trying to match the team picks with the player range.

  1. Philactides - easily the quickest in the CTL with ball in hand and very powerful. First 3 steps power creates the separation. - Draft range 30+
  2. Walter - his power to drive his legs for such a big guy is great. The power turns into speed very quickly. All the best fwds are quick over 10-15ms - Draft range 1-5
  3. Windsor - probably the second quickest with ball in hand. Power needs some work but he will get stronger once he's an AFL player - Draft range 7 - 15
  4. Watson - His power and speed is what makes him so exciting. Regularly gets separation on leads because of his power. - Draft range 3-10
  5. Hastie - Showed in the latter part of the season that his speed is an asset. He did get run down a few times so its not lightning but, his first steps is what buys him time to create the separation. This is produced by his power output. - Draft range 30+
  6. H. Reid - very powerful through his hips, hence his ability to break tackles. He's not blessed with lightning speed though. - Draft range #1
  7. DeMattia - Speed is good and his power thru the contest is great. Likes to drive his legs. - Draft range 18+
  8. ZZ - Quick for a big guy which is a bit of a weapon for him to have a point of difference but his power is lacking. - Draft range 25+
  9. Graham - has a nice mix of speed and power. This could eventually translate to a strong inside mid. - Draft range 30+
  10. Simpson - Also has a good mix of speed and power. Could see him playing HHF at AFL with his speed & power - Draft range 30+
  11. Sanchez - Has got some nice deceptive speed. Similar to watson but not as powerful - Draft range 30+
  12. Guys like Rogers, O’Driscoll and Collard are quick on the flat surface at the combine but don't always transfer the speed game day (atm anyway)
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I think McKercher and Duursma have to make the top 10 for speed and power. McKercher's speed and power through the contest are both elite and Duursma has a skinny frame but the way he leaps and changes direction is power. He just doesn't have that ground ball contest and defensive power in his game yet.

Wilson, Caddy, Leake, Tholstrup, Hardeman.. most of the likely first round picks are in that range because they have a combination of pace and power. They are quick explosive moving players.
 

2023 AFL Draft: Swan Districts defender Riley Hardeman on flying under the radar, career outside of football​

Swan Districts half-back Riley Hardeman has plenty of impressive qualities ahead of a fledging AFL career, but it’s his attention to detail that stands out both on the field and off.

The talented defender is focused on improving every aspect of being a professional footballer.

This means preparing for the strong likelihood that he is set to move interstate as soon as next month on top of his work to be the best player he can be.


“From a football perspective, I went into the year knowing because of the position I play which is half-back I needed to improve my kicking accuracy,” Hardeman told The West Australian.

“I placed real emphasis on that during the pre-season and the start of the year and I was seeing results, playing with the senior boys.

“From an off-field perspective, I was preparing myself for that next level from a professionalism point of view, whether it be cooking and cleaning with mum or my organisation and preparation leading into training and games.

“There are 16 AFL clubs over east and only two in WA so the prospect of moving over east is looming so to be able to be self-sufficient and independent is definitely a huge and one clubs want to see.”

The 18-year-old has also spent the year paying attention to detail towards a career away from football that not many would expect – forensics.

“I’m studying a Bachelor of Biomedical Science degree with a major in forensics,” Hardeman said.

“Being a detective and crime scene analysis for the Australian Police Force – it’s something I’ve always been interested in but particularly the last one or two years.

“When mum puts enough Crime Scene Investigation on the TV you tend to take a bit of interest.

“It’s been really good this year because it provides a balance to my week so I’m not completely absorbed by footy every day and having that balance in life which has been good.”

Hardeman is one of at least four West Australians who could have their name called out in the first round of next month’s draft.

The Swan Districts defender has an excellent football CV to rival fellow top 20 contenders in Daniel Curtin, Koltyn Tholstrup and Lance Collard.

He captained WA at the Under-18 National Championships and was named at half-back in the All-Australian side, after averaging 19 disposals and six marks.

This added to a WAFL league debut for Swans in round one and an excellent year in the colts, where he averaged 22 touches in seven games.

Swan Districts half-back Riley Hardeman has plenty of impressive qualities ahead of a fledging AFL career, but it’s his attention to detail that stands out both on the field and off.

The talented defender is focused on improving every aspect of being a professional footballer.

This means preparing for the strong likelihood that he is set to move interstate as soon as next month on top of his work to be the best player he can be.


“From a football perspective, I went into the year knowing because of the position I play which is half-back I needed to improve my kicking accuracy,” Hardeman told The West Australian.

“I placed real emphasis on that during the pre-season and the start of the year and I was seeing results, playing with the senior boys.

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“From an off-field perspective, I was preparing myself for that next level from a professionalism point of view, whether it be cooking and cleaning with mum or my organisation and preparation leading into training and games.

“There are 16 AFL clubs over east and only two in WA so the prospect of moving over east is looming so to be able to be self-sufficient and independent is definitely a huge and one clubs want to see.”

The 18-year-old has also spent the year paying attention to detail towards a career away from football that not many would expect – forensics.

“I’m studying a Bachelor of Biomedical Science degree with a major in forensics,” Hardeman said.

“Being a detective and crime scene analysis for the Australian Police Force – it’s something I’ve always been interested in but particularly the last one or two years.


Riley Hardeman captained WA at the Under-18 National Champioships.
Riley Hardeman captained WA at the Under-18 National Champioships. Credit: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos
“When mum puts enough Crime Scene Investigation on the TV you tend to take a bit of interest.

“It’s been really good this year because it provides a balance to my week so I’m not completely absorbed by footy every day and having that balance in life which has been good.”

Hardeman is one of at least four West Australians who could have their name called out in the first round of next month’s draft.

The Swan Districts defender has an excellent football CV to rival fellow top 20 contenders in Daniel Curtin, Koltyn Tholstrup and Lance Collard.

He captained WA at the Under-18 National Championships and was named at half-back in the All-Australian side, after averaging 19 disposals and six marks.

This added to a WAFL league debut for Swans in round one and an excellent year in the colts, where he averaged 22 touches in seven games.

Riley Hardeman takes the agility test at the National Draft Combine.
Riley Hardeman takes the agility test at the National Draft Combine. Credit: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos/AFL Photos via Getty Images

But Hardeman flies under the radar unlike his compatriots – not that he minds.

“This year has been good. I’m happy with the consistency of my year. In terms of accomplishment and achievements it’s exceeded my expectations … I’m proud of what I’ve been able to achieve,” Hardeman said.

“It was a real goal to attain a league debut for Swan Districts. I kept my mindset week by week instead of looking towards the draft early in the year when it wasn’t until November.

“It (the draft) is not something I try to think about too much myself … now it’s nearly there it’s hard to avoid it but I am happy with how I went and I’m confident that I’ve put myself out there, I’ve done all I can.

“Either way I’m focused on myself, I don’t need too much attention.”

A St Kilda supporter, Hardeman said he has tried to base his game around that of two-time All-Australian Jack Sinclair, as well as Fremantle’s Hayden Young.

“He’s an important player for St Kilda with the way he gets up the ground and gets himself involved himself and kicks the ball long,” Hardeman said.

“Then there is someone like Hayden Young from Freo – a left footer is, so I like to see how he uses the ball because he’s good by foot and his ability to run and carry as well.”
 

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