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People can get height wrong by quite a bit. While I don't know where this suspect was positioned, sitting, standing upright or leaning over at the time, unusually tall people's height can be difficult to gauge.
I used to be pretty bad at it, but now pretty good because I have kids obsessed with me measuring their height!
All I knew was if someone was taller or shorter or about my height.
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6’4 though is like seeing a basketballer though not a regular joe 6 footer. Which was more my point. I think there would be some variance with smaller regular sized people
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If you’re 5 foot 4 like me, anything 5 foot 9 and over looks huge.
But I take your point. Could be two creepy looking killers out there. Still worth checking though.
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$1m doco deal to Asa Ellerup and her family and her lawyer also involved in this circus. It should be called what it is - Monetizing Murder !!
IMO this is so distasteful !
www.longislandpress.com
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Heuermann’s attorney Michael Brown told reporters last week that Ellerup believes Heuermann is innocent.
“My understanding is that she doesn’t believe that he was capable of or committed these acts,” Brown said after the hearing, which was otherwise uneventful besides Ellerup’s appearance.
“I haven’t stopped shaking all morning,” tweeted Jasmine Robinson, the cousin of Gilgo Beach victim Jessica Taylor. “I’m so f****** disgusted to see that RH’s family will become rich off of the suffering of victims and their families.”
IMO this is so distasteful !
Victims’ Families Blast Reported $1M Payment to Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Suspect’s Family for Documentary
Family members of Gilgo Beach serial killer victims are outraged that the wife and children of suspect Rex Heuermann will reportedly be paid $1 million to participate in a documentary.
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Heuermann’s attorney Michael Brown told reporters last week that Ellerup believes Heuermann is innocent.
“My understanding is that she doesn’t believe that he was capable of or committed these acts,” Brown said after the hearing, which was otherwise uneventful besides Ellerup’s appearance.
“I haven’t stopped shaking all morning,” tweeted Jasmine Robinson, the cousin of Gilgo Beach victim Jessica Taylor. “I’m so f****** disgusted to see that RH’s family will become rich off of the suffering of victims and their families.”
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Its a frustrating listen but if some/part of it is true, it really does highlight old mates love of fetishes etc...
Its a frustrating listen but if some/part of it is true, it really does highlight old mates love of fetishes etc...
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Today NYTimes;
Credit...Yuki Imumura/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
After 13 years of dead ends and blown leads, the Gilgo Beach murder investigation finally turned on pizza crusts that Rex Heuermann had tossed in a trash can in Midtown Manhattan.
It was a jackpot for investigators who had watched Mr. Heuermann for months.
“Pizza crust is like a sponge — it allowed the saliva to seep into the dough,” Ray Tierney, the Suffolk County district attorney, said in a recent interview.
The sample gave investigators the genetic match that helped connect Mr. Heuermann to four bodies found in 2010 on Long Island, and his arrest followed in July, Mr. Tierney said.
When Mr. Heuermann’s trial begins, possibly this year, the DNA evidence will underpin the charges that he murdered women he had hired as escorts and left their bodies wrapped in burlap along a desolate oceanfront parkway.
Investigators say the DNA profile obtained from a male hair found on the burlap used to wrap one of the four victims found in 2010, Megan Waterman, corresponds to the pizza slice sample from Mr. Heuermann.
The authorities have charged Mr. Heuermann with three of the killings, but refrained from a fourth charge because genetic test results were incomplete in July. Mr. Heuermann has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail at a Suffolk County jail.
Prosecutors have said Mr. Heuermann will likely be charged this month in connection with the fourth body, and on Monday morning they announced he would appear in court in Riverhead on Tuesday, with prosecutors holding a news conference afterward.
Mr. Tierney, who plans on arguing the case himself, said the DNA evidence made the case a strong one.
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Rex Heuermann has been charged in Suffolk County with killing three of the women known as the Gilgo Four. Credit...James Carbone/Pool, via Reuters
But to Mr. Heuermann’s lawyer, Michael J. Brown, a withered strand of hair — the only physical evidence purporting to link his client to any of the bodies — is a flimsy clue on which to hang a case.
And genetic experts say Mr. Brown will try to sow doubt among jurors about the DNA evidence.
This could include challenging the constitutionality of obtaining the pizza sample and scrutinizing every aspect of the genetic specimens’ collection, transport and testing, said Steve Mercer, a Maryland lawyer who serves as an expert witness and consultant for defense attorneys in forensic DNA cases.
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A surveillance team retrieved the remnants of the suspect’s pizza from a trash can in New York.Credit...Suffolk County District Attorney
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The crusts bore genetic material that investigators said directly linked the suspect to the crimes.Credit...Suffolk County Court, via Reuters
Mr. Mercer said the defense might also look into the record of the forensic labs that investigators used and tell jurors that the genetic evidence “doesn’t establish what happened.”
Presenting complex evidence to jurors can be a challenge, said Lawrence Kobilinsky, a forensic science consultant.
“It’s never, ever a slam-dunk case with DNA evidence, because you can never be sure of how a jury reacts,” he said. “I’ve given trial testimony in cases where I look over and see jurors nodding out.”
Mr. Brown did not reply to a request for comment, but at a recent court conference he took issue with the mitochondrial DNA testing used by prosecutors, which does not prove a link to a specific person but rather narrows down matches by ruling out most other people. It is helpful when nuclear DNA is severely degraded, as it was in this case.
Prosecutors say that while 99.96 percent of the population is excluded as a match for the Waterman hair, Mr. Heuermann cannot be, based on his genetic profile from the DNA on the pizza and a court-ordered swab after his arrest.
Mr. Brown countered that this still allows for “thousands and thousands” of men on Long Island alone whose DNA could correspond to the Waterman hair.
Prosecutors say Ms. Ellerup, who has not been charged, was on vacation when the victims disappeared but that her husband probably inadvertently carried her hair from home onto his victims, perhaps on a roll of tape used to bind the bodies.
The victims — Ms. Waterman, Amber Costello, Melissa Barthelemy and Maureen Brainard-Barnes, known as the Gilgo Four — were the first of 10 people whose remains would ultimately be found along Ocean Parkway in 2010 and 2011. The other six deaths are still being investigated.
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The victims were, clockwise from top left, Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes and Megan Waterman.Credit...Suffolk County Police Department, via Associated Press
The young women who made up the Gilgo Four were all working as escorts and had gone missing after meeting a client who contacted them with disposable cellphones.
They were identified by their own DNA early on, but stray hairs found on each did not offer immediate clues. The hairs, exposed for months or years to the raw elements on windswept oceanfront terrain, were so decomposed that it was impossible to conduct the nuclear DNA analysis that identifies suspects in genetic databases.
When in March 2022 Mr. Heuermann was identified as a suspect, it was not through DNA but rather a decade-old tip regarding his distinctive pickup truck.
Investigators quickly had enough circumstantial evidence to convince them Mr. Heuermann was their man, including mobile phone location records connecting him to the four victims at the time of their disappearance. They also discovered his internet history of using burner phones to browse sadistic pornography and escort sites, Mr. Tierney said.
But to secure an indictment, they needed to assemble a solid genetic case using mitochondrial DNA analysis. For this they would need to obtain surreptitious samples from Mr. Heuermann and his family.
“You don’t arrest someone on a wing and a prayer, much less the biggest case in Suffolk County,” Mr. Tierney said.
In fact, the DNA evidence was so crucial that it led investigators to allow Mr. Heuermann to remain free more than a year so they could gather it. They worried that perhaps he might kill again or get tipped off that he was a suspect. The task force set up surveillance teams to tail Mr. Heuermann and installed cameras outside his home.
In July 2022, an outside forensics laboratory that used techniques including direct genome sequencing confirmed investigators’ suspicions that the hairs found on Ms. Barnes, Ms. Waterman and Ms. Costello were indeed female hairs that had not belonged to the victims.
That same month, an undercover detective plucked empty bottles from a recycling pail outside Mr. Heuermann’s dilapidated Massapequa Park home.
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Investigators said some hairs found on the victims belonged to Mr. Heuermann’s wife, transmitted accidentally.Credit...Johnny Milano for The New York Times
Now investigators could use the bottle samples to create genetic profiles on Ms. Ellerup, Mr. Heuermann and their two grown children. But they still wanted a direct genetic sample from Mr. Heuermann.
As months went by, the more they learned about Mr. Heuermann, the more tension heightened among task force officials over whether to arrest him.
He was using burner phones and fake identities to access his Tinder account, contact massage parlors and escorts and keep up on the investigation. Also, as an avid hunter with more than 90 gun permits, he seemed to have an arsenal of weapons at home.
“Our surveillance could have been detected, or he could have engaged in activity that would give us pause,” Mr. Tierney said. “So it was tough.”
There were also worries about leaks. This task force began as a trusted core of mostly law enforcement officials and maintained a tight ring of secrecy for more than a year, Mr. Tierney said. By the spring of 2023, “every day, that expanded,” said Mr. Tierney, as more people were needed to tail Mr. Heuermann. Hundreds of subpoenas were issued, and finally witnesses began testifying in front of a grand jury.
By June 2023, the genetic tests on the bottles and the pizza slice DNA positively linked Mr. Heuermann and his wife to the bodies, and a grand jury was convened.
Prosecutors were anxiously awaiting lab results linking Mr. Heuermann to Ms. Brainard-Barnes. But hearing rumblings of a possible media leak regarding Mr. Heuermann, they decided to arrest him immediately and charge him with three murders.
Mr. Tierney said there had been an elaborate puzzle to assemble.
“The reason no arrest was made on this case for 13 years is because there were no eyewitnesses,” he said. “You have to look at all the available evidence and evaluate it all and piece it together.”
But Mr. Mercer said that because the genetic samples were collected more than a dozen years ago and because the investigation took a winding path, “the defense will have quite a bit to work with to provide a counternarrative.”
Corey Kilgannon is a Times reporter who writes about crime and criminal justice in and around New York City, as well as breaking news and other feature stories. More about Corey Kilgannon
A version of this article appears in print on Jan. 16, 2024 of the New York edition with the headline: Strands of Hair Will Be Central In Gilgo 4 Case. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
Today NYTimes;
Gilgo Beach Serial-Murder Case Hangs on a Single Strand of Hair
Prosecutors put their faith in complex scientific evidence gathered painstakingly from burial sites and garbage cans.
Credit...Yuki Imumura/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
After 13 years of dead ends and blown leads, the Gilgo Beach murder investigation finally turned on pizza crusts that Rex Heuermann had tossed in a trash can in Midtown Manhattan.
It was a jackpot for investigators who had watched Mr. Heuermann for months.
“Pizza crust is like a sponge — it allowed the saliva to seep into the dough,” Ray Tierney, the Suffolk County district attorney, said in a recent interview.
The sample gave investigators the genetic match that helped connect Mr. Heuermann to four bodies found in 2010 on Long Island, and his arrest followed in July, Mr. Tierney said.
When Mr. Heuermann’s trial begins, possibly this year, the DNA evidence will underpin the charges that he murdered women he had hired as escorts and left their bodies wrapped in burlap along a desolate oceanfront parkway.
Investigators say the DNA profile obtained from a male hair found on the burlap used to wrap one of the four victims found in 2010, Megan Waterman, corresponds to the pizza slice sample from Mr. Heuermann.
The authorities have charged Mr. Heuermann with three of the killings, but refrained from a fourth charge because genetic test results were incomplete in July. Mr. Heuermann has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail at a Suffolk County jail.
Prosecutors have said Mr. Heuermann will likely be charged this month in connection with the fourth body, and on Monday morning they announced he would appear in court in Riverhead on Tuesday, with prosecutors holding a news conference afterward.
Mr. Tierney, who plans on arguing the case himself, said the DNA evidence made the case a strong one.
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Rex Heuermann has been charged in Suffolk County with killing three of the women known as the Gilgo Four. Credit...James Carbone/Pool, via Reuters
But to Mr. Heuermann’s lawyer, Michael J. Brown, a withered strand of hair — the only physical evidence purporting to link his client to any of the bodies — is a flimsy clue on which to hang a case.
And genetic experts say Mr. Brown will try to sow doubt among jurors about the DNA evidence.
This could include challenging the constitutionality of obtaining the pizza sample and scrutinizing every aspect of the genetic specimens’ collection, transport and testing, said Steve Mercer, a Maryland lawyer who serves as an expert witness and consultant for defense attorneys in forensic DNA cases.
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A surveillance team retrieved the remnants of the suspect’s pizza from a trash can in New York.Credit...Suffolk County District Attorney
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The crusts bore genetic material that investigators said directly linked the suspect to the crimes.Credit...Suffolk County Court, via Reuters
Mr. Mercer said the defense might also look into the record of the forensic labs that investigators used and tell jurors that the genetic evidence “doesn’t establish what happened.”
The Gilgo Beach Serial Killings
After a decade-long investigation into multiple murders believed to have been carried out by a serial killer on Long Island, a suspect has been arrested.
- Human Remains: The case began in 2010, with the retrieval of four female bodies on a desolate stretch of Ocean Parkway near Gilgo Beach. It was only the first of several grisly discoveries: In all, remains of nine women, a man and a toddler were found in the area.
- A Botched Hunt: The police finally arrested the suspect who now stands accused of the murders after 13 years of investigating. Institutional rot, willful ignorance and corruption help explain why it took so long.
- The Suspect: People who knew the man charged in the serial killings when he was a teenager described him as awkward, solitary and volatile.
- Key Witnesses: Investigators are interviewing female inmates who worked as escorts and had encounters with the suspect. They had been ignored for years.
Presenting complex evidence to jurors can be a challenge, said Lawrence Kobilinsky, a forensic science consultant.
“It’s never, ever a slam-dunk case with DNA evidence, because you can never be sure of how a jury reacts,” he said. “I’ve given trial testimony in cases where I look over and see jurors nodding out.”
Mr. Brown did not reply to a request for comment, but at a recent court conference he took issue with the mitochondrial DNA testing used by prosecutors, which does not prove a link to a specific person but rather narrows down matches by ruling out most other people. It is helpful when nuclear DNA is severely degraded, as it was in this case.
Prosecutors say that while 99.96 percent of the population is excluded as a match for the Waterman hair, Mr. Heuermann cannot be, based on his genetic profile from the DNA on the pizza and a court-ordered swab after his arrest.
Mr. Brown countered that this still allows for “thousands and thousands” of men on Long Island alone whose DNA could correspond to the Waterman hair.
Mitochondrial DNA tests on other hair strands found on the victims indicate that they came from Mr. Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, which leaves little doubt of Mr. Heuermann’s involvement, Mr. Tierney said.Prosecutors say Ms. Ellerup, who has not been charged, was on vacation when the victims disappeared but that her husband probably inadvertently carried her hair from home onto his victims, perhaps on a roll of tape used to bind the bodies.
The victims — Ms. Waterman, Amber Costello, Melissa Barthelemy and Maureen Brainard-Barnes, known as the Gilgo Four — were the first of 10 people whose remains would ultimately be found along Ocean Parkway in 2010 and 2011. The other six deaths are still being investigated.
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The victims were, clockwise from top left, Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes and Megan Waterman.Credit...Suffolk County Police Department, via Associated Press
The young women who made up the Gilgo Four were all working as escorts and had gone missing after meeting a client who contacted them with disposable cellphones.
They were identified by their own DNA early on, but stray hairs found on each did not offer immediate clues. The hairs, exposed for months or years to the raw elements on windswept oceanfront terrain, were so decomposed that it was impossible to conduct the nuclear DNA analysis that identifies suspects in genetic databases.
When in March 2022 Mr. Heuermann was identified as a suspect, it was not through DNA but rather a decade-old tip regarding his distinctive pickup truck.
Investigators quickly had enough circumstantial evidence to convince them Mr. Heuermann was their man, including mobile phone location records connecting him to the four victims at the time of their disappearance. They also discovered his internet history of using burner phones to browse sadistic pornography and escort sites, Mr. Tierney said.
But to secure an indictment, they needed to assemble a solid genetic case using mitochondrial DNA analysis. For this they would need to obtain surreptitious samples from Mr. Heuermann and his family.
“You don’t arrest someone on a wing and a prayer, much less the biggest case in Suffolk County,” Mr. Tierney said.
In fact, the DNA evidence was so crucial that it led investigators to allow Mr. Heuermann to remain free more than a year so they could gather it. They worried that perhaps he might kill again or get tipped off that he was a suspect. The task force set up surveillance teams to tail Mr. Heuermann and installed cameras outside his home.
In July 2022, an outside forensics laboratory that used techniques including direct genome sequencing confirmed investigators’ suspicions that the hairs found on Ms. Barnes, Ms. Waterman and Ms. Costello were indeed female hairs that had not belonged to the victims.
That same month, an undercover detective plucked empty bottles from a recycling pail outside Mr. Heuermann’s dilapidated Massapequa Park home.
Image
Investigators said some hairs found on the victims belonged to Mr. Heuermann’s wife, transmitted accidentally.Credit...Johnny Milano for The New York Times
Now investigators could use the bottle samples to create genetic profiles on Ms. Ellerup, Mr. Heuermann and their two grown children. But they still wanted a direct genetic sample from Mr. Heuermann.
As months went by, the more they learned about Mr. Heuermann, the more tension heightened among task force officials over whether to arrest him.
He was using burner phones and fake identities to access his Tinder account, contact massage parlors and escorts and keep up on the investigation. Also, as an avid hunter with more than 90 gun permits, he seemed to have an arsenal of weapons at home.
“Our surveillance could have been detected, or he could have engaged in activity that would give us pause,” Mr. Tierney said. “So it was tough.”
There were also worries about leaks. This task force began as a trusted core of mostly law enforcement officials and maintained a tight ring of secrecy for more than a year, Mr. Tierney said. By the spring of 2023, “every day, that expanded,” said Mr. Tierney, as more people were needed to tail Mr. Heuermann. Hundreds of subpoenas were issued, and finally witnesses began testifying in front of a grand jury.
By June 2023, the genetic tests on the bottles and the pizza slice DNA positively linked Mr. Heuermann and his wife to the bodies, and a grand jury was convened.
Prosecutors were anxiously awaiting lab results linking Mr. Heuermann to Ms. Brainard-Barnes. But hearing rumblings of a possible media leak regarding Mr. Heuermann, they decided to arrest him immediately and charge him with three murders.
Mr. Tierney said there had been an elaborate puzzle to assemble.
“The reason no arrest was made on this case for 13 years is because there were no eyewitnesses,” he said. “You have to look at all the available evidence and evaluate it all and piece it together.”
But Mr. Mercer said that because the genetic samples were collected more than a dozen years ago and because the investigation took a winding path, “the defense will have quite a bit to work with to provide a counternarrative.”
Corey Kilgannon is a Times reporter who writes about crime and criminal justice in and around New York City, as well as breaking news and other feature stories. More about Corey Kilgannon
A version of this article appears in print on Jan. 16, 2024 of the New York edition with the headline: Strands of Hair Will Be Central In Gilgo 4 Case. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
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Another murder charge.
Rex Heuermann was formally charged in the killing of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, months after having been labelled the prime suspect in her death when he was arrested in July for the deaths of three other women.
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Rex Heuermann was formally charged in the killing of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, months after having been labelled the prime suspect in her death when he was arrested in July for the deaths of three other women.
Suspect in Long Island's Gilgo Beach serial killings is charged with the death of fourth woman
A New York architect charged in a string of slayings known as the Gilgo Beach killings has been accused of the death of a fourth woman.
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Another murder charge.
Rex Heuermann was formally charged in the killing of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, months after having been labelled the prime suspect in her death when he was arrested in July for the deaths of three other women.
Suspect in Long Island's Gilgo Beach serial killings is charged with the death of fourth woman
A New York architect charged in a string of slayings known as the Gilgo Beach killings has been accused of the death of a fourth woman.
Sounds like perhaps they finally got some solid evidence for that one
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Wow wee - IMO - hopefully his wife will surely abandon RH now (?)
Prosecutors also said in Tuesday's court filing that Mr Heuermann feared getting caught in the months leading up to his arrest.
Mr Heuermann also scoured the internet for phrases that suggested he was afraid of getting caught, including "How does cell site analysis work," "Gilgo news," "How cell phone tracking is increasingly being used to solve crimes," and phrases with the term "Long Island Serial Killer".
He obtained data-wiping software in an attempt to destroy evidence on his laptops, phones and other electronic devices, they said.
Investigators seized hundreds of devices during their lengthy search of Mr Heuermann's home that prosecutors say contained troves of bondage and torture pornography.
Sounds just like our Perth BRE CSK ! all up on the IT tech stuff with computers and cameras !
WAPOL Forensics managed to find "stories" on BRE's about p*rn.... but, could not determine who wrote them, or when/if edited from memory.
We have a way to go with this type of killer and stalking and searching on computers (extracting strong evidence that is admissible in Court)
Prosecutors also said in Tuesday's court filing that Mr Heuermann feared getting caught in the months leading up to his arrest.
Mr Heuermann also scoured the internet for phrases that suggested he was afraid of getting caught, including "How does cell site analysis work," "Gilgo news," "How cell phone tracking is increasingly being used to solve crimes," and phrases with the term "Long Island Serial Killer".
He obtained data-wiping software in an attempt to destroy evidence on his laptops, phones and other electronic devices, they said.
Investigators seized hundreds of devices during their lengthy search of Mr Heuermann's home that prosecutors say contained troves of bondage and torture pornography.
Sounds just like our Perth BRE CSK ! all up on the IT tech stuff with computers and cameras !
WAPOL Forensics managed to find "stories" on BRE's about p*rn.... but, could not determine who wrote them, or when/if edited from memory.
We have a way to go with this type of killer and stalking and searching on computers (extracting strong evidence that is admissible in Court)
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Police are conducting another grid search:
Rex Heuermann has been charged in four of the murders.
Estranged wife of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer releases new statement
In the statement, Asa Ellerup said she is giving her husband, Rex Heuermann, "the benefit of the doubt" and that she will "withhold judgment until the end of the trial."
video included in this report:
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New search underway tied to Gilgo Beach murder investigation: Sources ABC news USA
April 25, 2024, 1:46 AMRex Heuermann has been charged in four of the murders.
Estranged wife of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer releases new statement
In the statement, Asa Ellerup said she is giving her husband, Rex Heuermann, "the benefit of the doubt" and that she will "withhold judgment until the end of the trial."
video included in this report:
New search underway tied to Gilgo Beach murder investigation: Sources
Investigators are searching a wooded area in Manorville, New York, as part of the Gilgo Beach murders investigation, law enforcement sources told ABC News.
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Round 2 - 20 &21 May 2024 - Police return to RH home:
20/5/24 - BREAKING NEWS: Police activity seen at Massapequa Park home of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann. 4 helicopters overhead.
"Investigators search Gilgo Beach suspect’s home with K-9 and ground-penetrating radar, CNN affiliate reports”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-Island-yard-grim-search-home-continues.html
Medical Examiner called onto the scene.
Bags of Evidence removed (yet again).
Tents erected at the scene.
Perhaps something to do with the 422 devices, I would think.
Apr 17 CBS News article: "The DA said all of the prosecution's documentation is being disclosed -- DNA, lab reports, background checks, including Heuermann's 422 smart devices seized during raids that were allegedly used to contact and research sex workers.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/gilgo-beach-serial-killer-rex-heuermann-in-long-island-court/
abc7ny.com
RH next due in court 18 June 2024.
20/5/24 - BREAKING NEWS: Police activity seen at Massapequa Park home of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann. 4 helicopters overhead.
"Investigators search Gilgo Beach suspect’s home with K-9 and ground-penetrating radar, CNN affiliate reports”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-Island-yard-grim-search-home-continues.html
Medical Examiner called onto the scene.
Bags of Evidence removed (yet again).
Tents erected at the scene.
Perhaps something to do with the 422 devices, I would think.
Apr 17 CBS News article: "The DA said all of the prosecution's documentation is being disclosed -- DNA, lab reports, background checks, including Heuermann's 422 smart devices seized during raids that were allegedly used to contact and research sex workers.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/gilgo-beach-serial-killer-rex-heuermann-in-long-island-court/
Gilgo Beach investigators return to murder suspect Rex Heuermann's home
The Gilgo Beach Homicide Task Force is returning to Rex Heuermann's Massapequa Park home on Monday.
RH next due in court 18 June 2024.
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Multiple media reports of another murder charge for RH coming tomorrow Thurs 06 June 2024:
RH currently stands charged with four (4).
abc7ny.com
https://www.courttv.com/news/rex-heuermann-returning-to-court-after-a-renewed-search-of-his-home/
Suffolk County District Attorney Raymond Tierney said a court proceeding in the Gilgo Beach case was scheduled for Thursday.
"Obviously this is an ongoing investigation," said Tierney. "There were a number of necessary investigative steps that were taken, we've pointed out just some of them. Thursday, you will see the fruits of that investigation."
Specific details about the charge have not yet been released.
IMO this is huge news...... buckle up everyone..... as I think in all there were at least 11 bodies in/around Long Island.
RH currently stands charged with four (4).
Rex Heuermann expected to be charged with an additional murder, reports say
Word of the new indictment follows searches by the Gilgo Beach Task Force at Rex Heuermann's Massapequa Park home and a wooded area of Manorville where remains of two women were previously found.
https://www.courttv.com/news/rex-heuermann-returning-to-court-after-a-renewed-search-of-his-home/
Suffolk County District Attorney Raymond Tierney said a court proceeding in the Gilgo Beach case was scheduled for Thursday.
"Obviously this is an ongoing investigation," said Tierney. "There were a number of necessary investigative steps that were taken, we've pointed out just some of them. Thursday, you will see the fruits of that investigation."
Specific details about the charge have not yet been released.
IMO this is huge news...... buckle up everyone..... as I think in all there were at least 11 bodies in/around Long Island.
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2 more women: Jessica Taylor and Sandra Costilla.
DNA does not lie.... it is a science and this has nailed RH along with all the devices in his hording home:
Brings RH charges to include six (6) victims
Warning explicit
prosecution have evidence behind the charges, including DNA evidence linking Heuermann to one of the victims and a “manifesto” found on a laptop in Heuermann’s home laying out how the crimes were committed
Affidavit/Bail Application 06.06.2024 today:
DNA does not lie.... it is a science and this has nailed RH along with all the devices in his hording home:
Brings RH charges to include six (6) victims
Warning explicit
prosecution have evidence behind the charges, including DNA evidence linking Heuermann to one of the victims and a “manifesto” found on a laptop in Heuermann’s home laying out how the crimes were committed
Affidavit/Bail Application 06.06.2024 today:
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So the murder of Sandra Costilla, who wasn't found at Gilgo but in South Hampton, was initially thought to be a victim of John Bitroff but hair analysis has excluded him now and placed Heuermann as responsible.
Heuermann has more than one dumping ground.
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NYTIMES TODAY:
1/3 part quote below
"On Thursday, Mr. Heuermann was charged with killing one of them: Jessica Taylor, whose partial remains were found near Gilgo Beach in 2011 and then linked to other partial remains found eight years earlier in a remote wooded area in Manorville, a 45-minute drive east.
He was also charged with killing Sandra Costilla, a 28-year-old New York woman whose remains were found in 1993 in the Hamptons. Her long unsolved murder had not previously been associated with the Gilgo Beach investigation.
Prosecutors also detailed a manual they said Mr. Heuermann kept that outlined how to select, kill and dispose of victims. It contained headings such as “Supplies” and “Problems,” about avoiding detection by changing car tires, burning gloves, destroying photos of victims, concocting alibis and “packaging” bodies for transport, according to court papers."
Gilgo Beach Serial Killing Suspect Is Charged With 2 More Murders
Rex Heuermann, who has been accused of killing four women, has been charged with the murders of two more.1/3 part quote below
"On Thursday, Mr. Heuermann was charged with killing one of them: Jessica Taylor, whose partial remains were found near Gilgo Beach in 2011 and then linked to other partial remains found eight years earlier in a remote wooded area in Manorville, a 45-minute drive east.
He was also charged with killing Sandra Costilla, a 28-year-old New York woman whose remains were found in 1993 in the Hamptons. Her long unsolved murder had not previously been associated with the Gilgo Beach investigation.
Prosecutors also detailed a manual they said Mr. Heuermann kept that outlined how to select, kill and dispose of victims. It contained headings such as “Supplies” and “Problems,” about avoiding detection by changing car tires, burning gloves, destroying photos of victims, concocting alibis and “packaging” bodies for transport, according to court papers."
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Attorney John Ray held a Presser 13 June 2024 on LISK - RH.
In particular - his only daughter Victoria and her choice of art and social media accounts and, after the 2nd search of their home was under attack. And her online searches.
JR has mentioned words like/of vore - furries - (which up until this Presser were not in my vocabulary)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...go-beach-murders-updates-killer-b2562081.html
snippet:
”The evidence that we have suggests that we have been sold a story by the Heuermann family,” he said.
He then showed a picture of Victoria “as she really is as she portrays herself on the internet.”
She is holding artwork of a human skull.
“That’s just the beginning,” he said.
He said he is pointing only toward “circumstantial evidence,” including “inescapable conclusions.”
Ray then added that cannibalism was potentially involved in the murders.
One image shows a hanged person with a shoe is missing . Another image appears to show remains that are “half eaten,” according to Ray .
“There are many pictures beside what I’m showing you that are equally bad or worse,” he added.
“We chose these pictures because of their significance in relation to Rex Heuermann as well as his daughter Victoria.
Talk of dungeons - sex clubs etc.
full Presser:
warning graphic and explicit
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”I wish I'd never listened to/watched the full presser. It is horrific and JR has put squarely that VH and those in the TARGET HOUSE had knowledge of pr0n, torture, the macabre etc. - explaining the coffee table book found on the kitchen bench inside the house"
no words now.... maybe i need a break from these six (6) murder/tortures
In particular - his only daughter Victoria and her choice of art and social media accounts and, after the 2nd search of their home was under attack. And her online searches.
JR has mentioned words like/of vore - furries - (which up until this Presser were not in my vocabulary)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...go-beach-murders-updates-killer-b2562081.html
snippet:
‘We have been sold a story’
Attorney Ray says Heuermann’s daughter Victoria has appeared as “very innocent” in front of the press.”The evidence that we have suggests that we have been sold a story by the Heuermann family,” he said.
He then showed a picture of Victoria “as she really is as she portrays herself on the internet.”
She is holding artwork of a human skull.
“That’s just the beginning,” he said.
Attorney focuses on Heuermann's children
John Ray said he will speak today about one of Heuermann’s children and the “implications” it holds.He said he is pointing only toward “circumstantial evidence,” including “inescapable conclusions.”
Ray then added that cannibalism was potentially involved in the murders.
Attorney reveals graphic images from Victoria's alleged Tumblr blog
Images from Victoria’s alleged Tumbler blog are being shown at the presser.One image shows a hanged person with a shoe is missing . Another image appears to show remains that are “half eaten,” according to Ray .
“There are many pictures beside what I’m showing you that are equally bad or worse,” he added.
“We chose these pictures because of their significance in relation to Rex Heuermann as well as his daughter Victoria.
Talk of dungeons - sex clubs etc.
full Presser:
warning graphic and explicit
Press Conference Heuermann Family
Join at this link on June 13, at 11:15 AM (America/New_York time) to watch live.
”I wish I'd never listened to/watched the full presser. It is horrific and JR has put squarely that VH and those in the TARGET HOUSE had knowledge of pr0n, torture, the macabre etc. - explaining the coffee table book found on the kitchen bench inside the house"
no words now.... maybe i need a break from these six (6) murder/tortures
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John Ray also says the family don't have at least one of the alibis we were told they did.
A look at Victoria's artwork, it's extreme. In the circumstances, I don't think they could be blamed if the police decided to take another look at all of them.
www.newsweek.com
A look at Victoria's artwork, it's extreme. In the circumstances, I don't think they could be blamed if the police decided to take another look at all of them.
Victoria Heuermann's 'Demonic' Artwork: Breakdown of the sadistic images
Attorney John Ray shared the "sadistic" images that Victoria Heuermann, the daughter of Rex Heuermann, was creating and viewing.
www.newsweek.com
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Google and you see this which explains the above:Attorney John Ray held a Presser 13 June 2024 on LISK - RH.
In particular - his only daughter Victoria and her choice of art and social media accounts and, after the 2nd search of their home was under attack. And her online searches.
JR has mentioned words like/of vore - furries - (which up until this Presser were not in my vocabulary)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...go-beach-murders-updates-killer-b2562081.html
snippet:
‘We have been sold a story’
Attorney Ray says Heuermann’s daughter Victoria has appeared as “very innocent” in front of the press.
”The evidence that we have suggests that we have been sold a story by the Heuermann family,” he said.
He then showed a picture of Victoria “as she really is as she portrays herself on the internet.”
She is holding artwork of a human skull.
“That’s just the beginning,” he said.
Attorney focuses on Heuermann's children
John Ray said he will speak today about one of Heuermann’s children and the “implications” it holds.
He said he is pointing only toward “circumstantial evidence,” including “inescapable conclusions.”
Ray then added that cannibalism was potentially involved in the murders.
Attorney reveals graphic images from Victoria's alleged Tumblr blog
Images from Victoria’s alleged Tumbler blog are being shown at the presser.
One image shows a hanged person with a shoe is missing . Another image appears to show remains that are “half eaten,” according to Ray .
“There are many pictures beside what I’m showing you that are equally bad or worse,” he added.
“We chose these pictures because of their significance in relation to Rex Heuermann as well as his daughter Victoria.
Talk of dungeons - sex clubs etc.
full Presser:
warning graphic and explicit
Press Conference Heuermann Family
Join at this link on June 13, at 11:15 AM (America/New_York time) to watch live.
”I wish I'd never listened to/watched the full presser. It is horrific and JR has put squarely that VH and those in the TARGET HOUSE had knowledge of pr0n, torture, the macabre etc. - explaining the coffee table book found on the kitchen bench inside the house"
no words now.... maybe i need a break from these six (6) murder/tortures
Rex Heuermann's daughter involved in murders 'beyond preposterous': Experts
Experts are blasting claims that Rex Heuermann's daughter is anyway involved in the Gilgo Beach murders, calling the idea "beyond preposterous."
www.newsweek.com
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If you read the above it explains that the artwork is from a TV show and not hers.John Ray also says the family don't have at least one of the alibis we were told they did.
A look at Victoria's artwork, it's extreme. In the circumstances, I don't think they could be blamed if the police decided to take another look at all of them.
Victoria Heuermann's 'Demonic' Artwork: Breakdown of the sadistic images
Attorney John Ray shared the "sadistic" images that Victoria Heuermann, the daughter of Rex Heuermann, was creating and viewing.
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Just another lunatic lawyer trying to get some media time.
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