Maybe people do realise it's a problem, but also realise it's not really any of their business what the players do in their own time
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AFL player investigated for drug dealing
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Maybe people do realise it's a problem, but also realise it's not really any of their business what the players do in their own time
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I propose we take it further. Any actor, director, producer who takes drugs - ban them, remove all traces of their movies. Comedians who take drugs? Not for public consumption! Anyone in any sphere who is on the gear, remove them from society. I don't want any of these druggos infecting my lifestyle with their corruption.
I wonder, what will I still get to watch? Maybe just kids shows like High 5. The entertainment will be a little thin perhaps, but society will be better for it! Sanitise our role models! Don't just say 'No' to drugs, say 'you die and you go to hell' !
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Deary me, another one who has trouble with comprehension. How you get 'push the message to your kids that drugs are ok and there's no price to pay for it' from what I've written is beyond me
.You seem to be implying in your posts that anyone who touches drugs will destroy their life in some way (dead, jail, asylum). I simply don't agree with this. I've got mates who have smoked weed for years, hit the disco occasionally and indulged here and there at parties - last I checked they were all gainfully employed and pretty happy with life.
I don't disbelieve that you've had a different experience, and I am not suggesting that it is not risky behaviour, that it can't get out of control or never has an impact on an individual - of course it can and does. But then again so can sky diving I guess. It should come down to individual choice and responsibility.
It just gives me the shits when people push this puritan line that healthy educated people will turn into spaced-out crackheads if they so much as dabble with drugs. Its simply not true and actually impacts harshly on harm minimisation IMO, hence my reference to 50s style propaganda.
If you're going to discuss it at least keep it realistic.
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If you took away the dealers people would still abuse drugs even if they had to lick their wallpaper.
The real question of why people take them is never fully discussed by governments , media owners and business leaders because it exposes the imperfection of the systems we have set up.
All drugs should be looked at not just the ones that aren't taxed. Last week a report was released saying that the children from 14,000 families are affected by illicit drugs where 274,000 families suffered at the hands of alcohol.
Let's get things in perspective first , then divine where the issues come from in the first place.
Just saying drugs are bad doesn't do anything
Hi 5 ! From what I've heard I'm not letting them near my kids !!
PS this is a JOKE folks I know nothing....
In todays TV and Radio World, we have access to "news" for a fair portion of the time... add to this, the Internet, and Newspapers... then i THINK we dont have much choice, BUT to hear about it.
Drugs in footy IS an issue, and NEEDS to be dealt with... if its not, it is simply ruining the Future of Football... no clearer way to put it!!
If players are, as it seems, dealing... then it opens up a complete can of worms again...
as opposed to continuing to lie and not having a problem.
After the campbell brown thing ex players were lining up to say "I Lied"
You cant put employees in a situation where what they say will affect their colleagues pay packet - thye will lie every time.
But its off topic
I was bringing up the point of how close to home it is, and people dont realise!!
Theres a club in our league, which has problems, and from what ive read, the Purana Taskforce has been in contact with VCFL, trying to get this sorted out. Rumours are that Testing will be implemented at a local level, as of next season, across the board
Was a certain ex player 'dealing' when He supplied drugs to the poor girl in the hotel room ?
Seems like its nothing new
Just because its not new does not make it less of a problem.
In Regards to West Coast
As per the Worsfold interview on the Footy show, all they had were suspicions and he pointed out the fustration of the club in not being made aware of players failing drug tests so that appropriate action could be taken.
Hawthorn and other clubs for that matter were/are probably in a similar position.
The problem was made worse after the media witch hunt of Cousins and how it was handled by the aFL
What player in there right mind would admit publicly, or for that matter advise the Club that they have a substance abuse problem. Their reputation would be harmed and they might risk a suspension that would not be lifted too after they were cleared by the AFL medico's
Far better for them to continue to hide behind the confidentiality of the AFL's Drug code, seek rehab privately and continue playing the game.
JeffDunne
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The problem in this case was the AFL's ad-hoc policy of allowing him to present evidence.
When Campbell exposed the folly of their decision, the AFL were embarrassed and Brown paid the price.
It's the problem with the AFL. Like the players they are bad liars.
JeffDunne
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The problem was made far worse and the subsequent media 'witch hunt' was a result of inactivity on behalf of the AFL and the club.
Why should they continue to play?
Any player that requires rehab for a drug problem shouldn't be playing the game.
Because they're still in the team's best 22 players, and performing accordingly.
Why should they be banned?
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I wasn't disagreeing with you.
I know of one club who had a raft of players in shit for pill related activities.
I laugh at people saying 'recreational drugs aren't performance enhancing' when I think of the dude (from another club, another league in fact) who plays football recreationally. We warn him that his heart will give out one day, but we are just guessing that will happen. He's a good player, and by jesus does he go hard at it.
Can you elaborate? What external forces make it justifiable for anyone to take drugs?
i cbf reading the whole thread can someone summarise all this...
is it a player from the team in the scandal last friday? if so they should be sacked
Yes it is. They should be sacked for what? Would you say something different if it was a young gun from your team?
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i cbf reading the whole thread can someone summarise all this...
is it a player from the team in the scandal last friday? if so they should be sacked
OP says it's the same team - the player was investigated but no charges were laid.
Make of that what you will.
And cheer up mate
Any player should be booted if found guilty of drug dealing.
However, these allegations were found to be unsubstantiated. Not for the first time either. Jon Hay mentioned earlier this year that the rumours linking him to drug dealing years ago were started by a crazed fan.
However, these allegations were found to be unsubstantiated. Not for the first time either. Jon Hay mentioned earlier this year that the rumours linking him to drug dealing years ago were started by a crazed fan.
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It's not our club for once, woooo hoo
No one can accuse a WC fan of being small minded, parochial and petty. Good to see the big picture is understood by the bird men of the west
And this is where the AFL is complicent
After making a stance in regards to Cousins in that he had to seek an AFL medical clearance before being allowed to play
Surely a directive should have gone out to the club medicos that any player in need of rehab shouldn't be allowed to play either.
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I know who you are talking about and I would still want them sacked. Taking the drugs I can handle but dealing is serious and is dangerous. i don't want anyone like that at my club
There mightn't be anybody left.
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