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You are a little obsessed with Rob being dropped. He had a form dip. Same thing happened in 2022 and he came and played all the games in 2023.

Only 2 other clubs dropped their ruckman in 2024. One dropped their 35 year old ruckman. And the other is Port (and after ROB dominated Sweet on the weekend - there is every chance Soldo starts the season as their #1).
If you can see Strachan is no good, why do you rate ROB's selection as anything more than desperation?
 

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Did T Murray ruck much yesterday?
If he did how did he look?

We have ROB, an injured Strachan, TT - who would be wasted as a permanent ruck and T Murray as ruck options
 
Did T Murray ruck much yesterday?
If he did how did he look?

We have ROB, an injured Strachan, TT - who would be wasted as a permanent ruck and T Murray as ruck options
Yes, he spent a small time in ruck & looked ok. He had a centre clearance that I can recall.

Looks raw, but likely type. Reminds me of McKernan, but hopefully can realise his potential consistently.
 
Yes, he spent a small time in ruck & looked ok. He had a centre clearance that I can recall.

Looks raw, but likely type. Reminds me of McKernan, but hopefully can realise his potential consistently.
I think we should really be investing time in T Murray as a ruck. He's become quite physically imposing and there's no obvious reason why he wouldn't succeed.
 
I think we should really be investing time in T Murray as a ruck. He's become quite physically imposing and there's no obvious reason why he wouldn't succeed.
Absolutely... particularly given it's more of an immediate need.
 
You have to be on the field of battle - participating - to be in the team.

Nicks isn't in the team for instance, even though the coach is obviously important.

It's why they have to have a separate award for the manufacturers, because they're not in the team.

Neil & Buzz walked on the moon. Not those NASA guys
...or a studio set - not the camera guys :moustache:
 
3) Traded Sam Berry instead of re-signing a guy that blatantly can’t be a consistent AFL midfielder or play anywhere else on the ground. He had at least one club (Pies) knocking on our door.

So, let me get this straight, you see a team as well ran as Collingwood knocking the door down for a player and you say trade him.

Berry just got unlucky that we won the Peatling sweepstakes (otherwise, highly likely he's a starting mid). Not much you can do about that from a list management POV.

Cook and Strachan were the big errors if we were looking for a draft spot.
 
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I haven't actually seen McAndrew play.

Long term - definitely McAndrew just purely based on age.

But in October of 2024 would I have cut Strachan (and absorbed the salary cap hit) just to get another future long term ruck that I could pick up at the midseason draft - Absolutely not.




You are a little obsessed with Rob being dropped. He had a form dip. Same thing happened in 2022 and he came and played all the games in 2023.

Only 2 other clubs dropped their ruckman in 2024. One dropped their 35 year old ruckman. And the other is Port (and after ROB dominated Sweet on the weekend - there is every chance Soldo starts the season as their #1).
I suggest you watch McAndrew play then pass judgement, had we recruited him he would be for the short term and long term.

I believe Nicks choosing to drop a leader of a club twice in 3 years in a position we are devoid of options is a pretty damming assessment of ROBs performance, then throw in the fact he hasn’t rated in the top 10 of our B&F the last 3 years and go back to my first point, McAndrew would be playing this year.

Yep so no club dropped their no 1 ruck and retained them as their no 1 ruck, except us. Zero chance Soldo replaces Sweet rd 1 and Port were happy for him to go but no one wanted him.

And you really should be concerned Mostyn is continuing to agree with you.
 
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Nothing personal at all.

Don't forget the low base we are coming in terms of ruck stocks !!!
Ideally we should've cut more players at the end of the season. It is poor list management. All I'm saying is, I'm not sure on him yet. I need to see more, Boyd on the other hand was an easier decision IMO.
 
Ideally we should've cut more players at the end of the season. It is poor list management. All I'm saying is, I'm not sure on him yet. I need to see more, Boyd on the other hand was an easier decision IMO.
He was the easier get, once we didn't have a list spot he was always going to head back across the border, sadly.
 
Red Bull’s sponsorship strategy tends to be more teams they can brand as their own though isn’t it?

The soccer teams they sponsor all seem to have Red Bull in their name

yeah but its a limiting strategy, especially in a country like Australia where we dont really take to sponsor name teams outside motorsport.
 
Did T Murray ruck much yesterday?
If he did how did he look?

We have ROB, an injured Strachan, TT - who would be wasted as a permanent ruck and T Murray as ruck options
CBA's
RUCKS


21 Reilly O'Brien 70.0%

3 Lachlan McAndrew 10.0%

3 Riley Thilthorpe 10.0%

3 Toby Murray 10.0%

MIDFIELDERS

20 Matt Crouch 66.7%

20 Jordan Dawson 66.7%

15 Jake Soligo 50.0%

11 James Peatling 36.7%

6 Sam Berry 20.0%

5 Sid Draper 16.7%

4 Harry Schoenberg 13.3%

4 Lachlan Murphy 13.3%

4 Jay Boyle 13.3%

1 Ben Keays 3.3%

Kick Ins
AdelaideMark Keane4
AdelaideOscar Ryan3
AdelaideMitch Hinge2
AdelaideWayne Milera1
AdelaideNick Murray1
AdelaideJosh Worrell1
AdelaideBrodie Smith1
 
Anyone who thinks motor racing isn't a team sport should watch tonight's V8 Supercars race.

Will Brown put a beautifully executed, and perfectly legal, block on Cam Waters as he entered his pit - allowing his teammate (Broc Feeney) to jump Waters in pit lane and take the overall lead of the race.
 
I suggest you watch McAndrew play then pass judgement, had we recruited him he would be for the short term and long term.

You seen a lot of him?

I believe Nicks choosing to drop a leader of a club twice in 3 years in a position we are devoid of options is a pretty damming assessment of ROBs performance, then throw in the fact he hasn’t rated in the top 10 of our B&F the last 3 years and go back to my first point, McAndrew would be playing this year.

Discussed this already. You focus on the 4 games he has missed over the past 3 seasons. I focus on the 64 games where the majority of them he was fine.

Yep so no club dropped their no 1 ruck and retained them as their no 1 ruck, except us. Zero chance Soldo replaces Sweet rd 1 and Port were happy for him to go but no one wanted him.

What an oddly specific example you keep going to try and prove a point. There are only 18 ruckman. 3 got dropped last year. One was 35 years old. One lost his spot to a better ruckman and ROB got a kick up the arse and came back and was just fine.

ROB can play at a very high level. He doesn't do it enough, but look at his game where he destroyed Tim English in RD 22 and he got the better of Grundy in the last round.

And you really should be concerned Mostyn is continuing to agree with you.

And I am beginning to think that you are the reason poor Marco left the Crows and the State.
 

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