Review Autopsy - Pies Too Hot for Freo

[Stinky Lomax]

I think I read somewhere he is in the non-contact group in training? It's not doing him any favours playing at the moment anyway.

He’s been wearing the pink hat for weeks at training, he just needs a couple of weeks off to heal & freshen up. Not at Peel, just some time off.
It can’t be anything too serious but the way he’s performing, changing it up with McDonald who was very good last hit out, we won’t lose anything.

 

[Freomaniac]

I asked for effort, at least we got that.

I asked for no injuries, but I was asking too much.

Bolton & Clark the best for us. We won most of the stat categories, apart from the one that mattered.

Tell me…

Weird we won the inside 50s by a fair margin.

Josh Tracey kicked 2 goals early.

We did ok for most of the 1st half. 2nd half was very bad.

Elliott was the difference maker again for magpies.

Not the 1st time he was a difference maker vs Freo in Perth.

Did the same job back in 2022 as well.

Dudley was ok. He did missed a key set shot late in the game.

I am gutted but no too upset

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

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So now we are "brave"

Yuk.

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

People need to start thinking logically about this. The board is the group that makes the decision. Do you think they are going to convene on a Thursday night at 10pm after the game to sack him? If it's unanimous across the board, they will call a meeting at the beginning of next week during their standard 9-5 work hours. History says they won't make a decision until the bye.

If they think it is time to sack the coach they absolutely should convene an emergency board meeting at 9am the day after.

 

[s_wd6]

If they think it is time to sack the coach they absolutely should convene an emergency board meeting at 9am the day after.

Everyone from the CEO down to the players are delusional. JL is going nowhere. Can almost guarantee he'll be here next season too.

 

[Hamann188]

Everyone from the CEO down to the players are delusional. JL is going nowhere. Can almost guarantee he'll be here next season too.

I'm angry because you're probably right.

 

[sportsmaniac89]

People need to start thinking logically about this. The board is the group that makes the decision. Do you think they are going to convene on a Thursday night at 10pm after the game to sack him? If it's unanimous across the board, they will call a meeting at the beginning of next week during their standard 9-5 work hours. History says they won't make a decision until the bye.

Umm if I may, but didn't we once sack Damian Drum by media?

0-9 in 2001 and he found out he was sacked courtesy of a journalist.

I still maintain that was one of the worst sackings (manner of sacking) of all time.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Everyone from the CEO down to the players are delusional. JL is going nowhere. Can almost guarantee he'll be here next season too.

It's ridiculous isn't it?

But unfortunately barring a run of significant losses I just don't see any change coming.

 

[The Feeder Club]

Multiple other coaches talk about aiming for connectedness on the field, which I assume is what we mean by being predictable to each other. But to my mind they are subtly different things.
You can be predictably bad. We lack connectedness. Fix it.

 

[JunglistPosse]

Only really had one criticism of Jordan Clark today as his game was enormous.
Marks on the 50 directly in front then tries a chip kick to 25, for a turnover.

Has a long leg on him…kick the goal mate

Was thinking exactly the same thing at the ground .

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Watched the game finally, man, what a completely bizarre viewing experience. Just domination everywhere let down by one stupid moment in the chain EVERY ****ING TIME followed by unbelievably precise rebounding and poor positioning from Freo. I dont think my screen would have survived watching that live. I actually dont even know if I throw JL under the bus for this one

They should have been up 30 points by half time...

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Everyone from the CEO down to the players are delusional. JL is going nowhere. Can almost guarantee he'll be here next season too.

You’re spot on. They think we’re tracking just fine. Everyone is hailing a minimum base level effort requires to compete at AFL level just because we looked like the worst team in history a week ago.

Even if we lose enough games to fall out of finals contention completely, they’ll stick fat and talk up the bravery to withstand media noise and not make knee-jerk reactions, or some nonsense. The club is completely delusional about where they are at and who they think they are from the top down to the players and you just have to listen to player interviews to realise this.

 

[chaosball32]

Watched the game finally, man, what a completely bizarre viewing experience. Just domination everywhere let down by one stupid moment in the chain EVERY ****ING TIME followed by unbelievably precise rebounding and poor positioning from Freo. I dont think my screen would have survived watching that live. I actually dont even know if I throw JL under the bus for this one

They should have been up 30 points by half time...

Inability to capitalise on midfield dominance

Stifling ball movement especially in the 2nd half when we were behind

Inability to defend transition

Bombing it high and long to Moore and Frampton over and over again

No discernible plan B

I’m putting all that on the coach because these are things we’ve seen before

 

[Footskill]

Still annoys me watching other teams how slow movement is from our back half. Without Clark would be at a standstill

The thing is they seem to milk all the allotted time they can after taking a mark, chip it side ways then comes back same way. Maybe cox and Ryan want to help each other fatten up their stats, but Pearce and draper no better in this respect

 

[Alfonz]

Multiple other coaches talk about aiming for connectedness on the field, which I assume is what we mean by being predictable to each other. But to my mind they are subtly different things.
You can be predictably bad. We lack connectedness. Fix it.

I really don't know what JL is banging on about with this predictability horseshit. We are so predictable that the crowd and opposition knows what is going to happen about 5-10 seconds ahead of time. I lost count of the amount of times I'd look up the field and say ... he's going to kick it to straight it to Cameron or Moore, and then whammo, it would happen.

There were even Pies supporters around me shouting "kick it to Darcy, kick it to Darcy". Taking the piss. Mocking us. Then next thing you know one of their Darcy's is taking another intercept mark.

It's truly mind boggling to watch unfold.

 

[s_wd6]

I really don't know what JL is banging on about with this predictableness horseshit. We are so predictable that the crowd and opposition knows what is going to happen about 5-10 seconds ahead of time. I lost count of the amount of times I'd look up the field and say ... he's going to kick it to straight it to Cameron or Moore, and then whammo, it would happen.

There were even Pies supporters around me shouting "kick it to Darcy, kick it to Darcy". Taking the piss. Mocking us. Then next thing you know one of their Darcy's is taking another intercept mark.

It's truly mind boggling to watch unfold.

It goes to Darcy BECAUSE we're unpredictable to each other. BECAUSE they're not on the same page. Because one player is ready to lead in one direction and his teammate kicks to the complete opposite direction. We weren't just getting out marked when we kicked long to a pack. There wasn't a single 1v1 on a fast break where it was actually kicked to our forwards advantage.

When Freddy is doubling back towards the goals and Frampton is running towards the pocket and we kick it in the direction of Frampton and Freddy has to make up 15 meteres to try to even get close to it then that's unpredictability. A connected/predictable team knows how each other plays.

I'm not one to defend him because he repeats the same shit after every loss, but I was watching that game from behind the goals and the word that kept jumping out to me was unpredictability.

 

[Paracleet]

My negative observations from my seat is that a) number of times guys looked like they were out of position on transition. Got sucked into contests / stoppages and let their opponent have an easy choice to risk pushing forward to receive post turnover. b) We seem to really struggle against teams that don't mind playing without the ball. Like a top soccer team playing away the pies sat behind the ball and broke forward with precision on error. I'm sure teams have lost AFL games when +28 inside 50s, but not very many.
Positives: We dominated large aspects of the game despite our tactical malaise. Winning form is only the recapture of instinctive team defense away. Of course whether that is 2 or 3 games from now or 15/20 and a coach sacking is anyone's guess.

 

[sdfc]

It goes to Darcy BECAUSE we're unpredictable to each other. BECAUSE they're not on the same page. Because one player is ready to lead in one direction and his teammate kicks to the complete opposite direction. We weren't just getting out marked when we kicked long to a pack. There wasn't a single 1v1 on a fast break where it was actually kicked to our forwards advantage.

When Freddy is doubling back towards the goals and Frampton is running towards the pocket and we kick it in the direction of Frampton and Freddy has to make up 15 meteres to try to even get close to it then that's unpredictability. A connected/predictable team knows how each other plays.

I'm not one to defend him because he repeats the same shit after every loss, but I was watching that game from behind the goals and the word that kept jumping out to me was unpredictability.

The players look confused. Clark of all people got the ball in a mile of space on Thursday, then stopped dead and waited. Too many times the players choose not to take the game on and the oppo set up in front of the ball.

 

[darkshines]

He's got a gameplan that couldnt be less suited to the cattle we have.

He wants a territory forward half game, which means winning clearances is non negotiable (which v Coll we did). But then you end up with 38 players in your inside 50, and our kicks/decisions just arent good enough to overcome that, and our smalls are not good enough to win any resultant i50 ground balls, especially if Bolton plays mid.

Also wants slow and sure ball movement, which needs elite and confident foot skills behind the ball (which we dont have). And then if you happen to lose the clearances (St Kilda), you've genuinely got absolutely nothing and are the worst team in it.

The next coach is going to come in and make the most basic changes, and all our players will look 10% better. We're just wasting time at this point. Simpson coming in and looking competent is a big plus.

 

[Superkoops]

He's got a gameplan that couldnt be less suited to the cattle we have.

He wants a territory forward half game, which means winning clearances is non negotiable (which v Coll we did). But then you end up with 38 players in your inside 50, and our kicks/decisions just arent good enough to overcome that, and our smalls are not good enough to win any resultant i50 ground balls, especially if Bolton plays mid.

Also wants slow and sure ball movement, which needs elite and confident foot skills behind the ball (which we dont have). And then if you happen to lose the clearances (St Kilda), you've genuinely got absolutely nothing and are the worst team in it.

The next coach is going to come in and make the most basic changes, and all our players will look 10% better. We're just wasting time at this point. Simpson coming in and looking competent is a big plus.

Cooper Simpson along with rookies Reid and Dudley are the biggest positives for me this season. Not a lot else has gone right. The move of Cooper to half back at Peel has suited him beautifully. He just couldn’t get involved enough at half forward. When considering he has only played a handful of WAFL games in the new role that is a good development.

We really now need Ras/Johnson to develop.

 

[rgauci]

It goes to Darcy BECAUSE we're unpredictable to each other. BECAUSE they're not on the same page. Because one player is ready to lead in one direction and his teammate kicks to the complete opposite direction. We weren't just getting out marked when we kicked long to a pack. There wasn't a single 1v1 on a fast break where it was actually kicked to our forwards advantage.

When Freddy is doubling back towards the goals and Frampton is running towards the pocket and we kick it in the direction of Frampton and Freddy has to make up 15 meteres to try to even get close to it then that's unpredictability. A connected/predictable team knows how each other plays.

I'm not one to defend him because he repeats the same shit after every loss, but I was watching that game from behind the goals and the word that kept jumping out to me was unpredictability.

It’s because our forwards never know if we’re going to do chain 2 handballs or 9. There are times we have a player streaming towards goal with a clear kick inside 50m and we add another 2 handballs for no apparent reason before kicking inside 50.

 

[ROGS]

Look it sucks. But the players really need to own up to this and realise it’s a whole list to choose from other then Young.
The midfield forwards and defence have hardly any injuries. Walker is one. But it’s still reasonable. Young is another but he’s replaceable. Fyfe, Walters, JOM, Aish aren’t the future so they don’t count.

4-5. GWS are not unbeatable, Port at home isn’t either then Gold Coast.
Try and go to the break 7-6, 6-7. And reset. It’s a very close competition. You don’t give up at 4-5. Melbourne are 3-5 and still talking about finals.

Changes have to be made though. Have to question the value of Darcy for Fremantle with Switkowski.

Switch up the players. Add in NOD. See what Erasmus is made of.

Yes agree switch it up but that is the problem he never does, just vanilla

Switta,darcy & cox also need to be dropped. but as usual he will go for the low hanging fruit

 

[Madas]

For what it’s worth, I reckon Treacy was concussed in the first quarter.

He certainly did go very quiet for the rest of the game

 

[Madas]

Am I the only one who thought McDonald was one of our better players in the Crows game? Rucked very well, took some grabs and kicked a couple. Can play at both ends. Was very surprised they didn’t back him in against the Saints. I’d take him over Ryan or Cox at the moment.

Correct in that he was very good and I was shitty he got dropped
Should come in for Amiss

Amiss needs to build some confidence in the WAFL

 

[Freomaniac]

Cooper Simpson shows a bit as a half back. I thought he took a step up tonight.

Dudley is one of the most composed players in the side. Usually takes the right option.

That's about all to take from another disappointing Freo game. Looking like a miserable season again.

Sucks to say this but you are correct. Gonna be a long season