Review Rozee's Port adelaide respond with a loss

[Pafcsince86]

33% by foot

Your cooked mate it's like arguing with a 5 year old.

 

[JimmyBC]

Your cooked mate it's like arguing with a 5 year old.

You are more cooked than Boak mate you didn't even watch it.

 

[Chewy316]

I decided to look at some stats comparing this week's game to last week against the dogs.

Last week:
-7 for contested ball (taking free kicks and contested marks out of the equation)
-14 clearances
-26 inside 50
+16 clangers
-90 on the scoreboard.

This week:
+22 contested ball (taking out contested marks and free kicks)
+27 clearances
+21 inside 50
+6 clangers
-5 on the scoreboard.

Port essentially dominated last night as much as the dogs dominated Port last week. But because of Ports fücking useless and inefficient gameplan, it's all for nought.

The only silver linings I'm finding is that they're moving the magnets around and finding out that a few players look like they'll have a future in their new roles. Ie Rozee to half back, Moraes on the wing, Bergman in the guts and Visentini in the ruck.

The biggest concern though was in the final quarter they reverted to type bombing it in long, after all season legitimately looking for a target in the forward 50 on the lead. Training that Hinkley ball out of them when the pressure is on is going to be a herculean task for Carr straight out of the gate.

 

[Pafcsince86]

You are more cooked than Boak mate you didn't even watch it.

What's wrong mate? I said I did watch it and even still I'd of played boak over mcentee for the simple fact he would of had some form of impact on the game. You hate boak obviously.. and what else is up maybe your mum didn't cook you breakfast this morning so your in an even worse mood after the loss....?

 

[crafty_bernardo]

I would rather play Mcentee than Boak. At least Mcentee wouldn't turn the ball over to the opposition with every possession he'd just be invisible.

 

[tribey]

Well I'm in a ropeable mood. And one of the main reasons is I'm sick of Port supporters accepting this shit year after year. We expect the players to fight hard for a win & yet its hard to find a Port supporter who has any fight in them. The majority just accept this mediocrity.

Again, I dipped at 3QT of the 2021 Prelim. I’ve still only been to one game since (over 2 years ago).

I cannot imagine those of us still going to games like I did prior to the Christmas Island Bulldogs debacle, and forcing excitement or passion amidst games like last night that pan out exactly as it did for what feels like the 9000th time since Koch and Hinkley arrived.

Beyond regime misanthropes like me, it’s clear that the most optimistic happyclapper has also been subconsciously knackered by a solid decade of this dross, even if they can’t recognise it.

 

[JimmyBC]

What's wrong mate? I said I did watch it and even still I'd of played boak over mcentee for the simple fact he would of had some form of impact on the game. You hate boak obviously.. and what else is up maybe your mum didn't cook you breakfast this morning so your in an even worse mood after the loss....?

I said neither should've played I'm baffled Lorenz was dropped & no I don't expect a dead person to make me breakfast.

 

[Jojay]

Really enjoyed watching Dante's game. Reminds me a little of Russell Johnston (showing my age here).

Hopefully he gets a good run at it now. He's paid his dues and has committed to Port long term. Love him.

 

[Drunk_off_R0zee]

For me the game was lost by the shocking kick in by Rozee that cost a goal but we also had no match for Thilthorpe. For me he was BOG. Also as expected the selection of McEntee was a masterstroke

Also their bizarre second goal that Fogarty missed and butters gave away a free? Cost us

 

[SureBuddy]

I decided to look at some stats comparing this week's game to last week against the dogs.

Last week:
-7 for contested ball (taking free kicks and contested marks out of the equation)
-14 clearances
-26 inside 50
+16 clangers
-90 on the scoreboard.

This week:
+22 contested ball (taking out contested marks and free kicks)
+27 clearances
+21 inside 50
+6 clangers
-5 on the scoreboard.

Port essentially dominated last night as much as the dogs dominated Port last week. But because of Ports fücking useless and inefficient gameplan, it's all for nought.

The only silver linings I'm finding is that they're moving the magnets around and finding out that a few players look like they'll have a future in their new roles. Ie Rozee to half back, Moraes on the wing, Bergman in the guts and Visentini in the ruck.

The biggest concern though was in the final quarter they reverted to type bombing it in long, after all season legitimately looking for a target in the forward 50 on the lead. Training that Hinkley ball out of them when the pressure is on is going to be a herculean task for Carr straight out of the gate.

I wouldn’t even say it was entirely due to our horrible gameplan. It’s more to do with how the Crows beat us every time. They flood our defence and counter attack, resulting in us having zero space up forward for leading marks. They have done it for multiple years now and we have no answer for it.
Add on to that how incredibly weak our forward line is. We just have no one who can win a contest up there to stop it just coming straight out again. As much as some don’t like them, you take out Lord, McEntee, Mead and add in Luko, Marshall and Rioli, we win that game by a comfortable margin. We are desperately missing quality key forwards who can kick straight.

Crows had low inside 50’s, but their keys just kick straight and make the most of it.

 

[davo999]

Devastated to lose but couldn’t fault the effort , great change putting Bergman in the middle , I’d keep him in there . Visentini was also good , McEntee didn’t work , Burton was quite good . probably just our bottom few weren’t really up to the level and that Thilthorpe is a beast , we couldn’t really handle him , most other areas we had them covered . Rozee was excellent as was Butters when he got going , slow players worry me , Drew and SPP last night , Wines is slow but still managing to just do enough .
Lord not quite there , wouldn’t write him off but would’ve loved Todd Marshall

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Todd Marshall

Age

27

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.5

2star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

8.9

2star

K

7.1

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.6

5star

out there .
Morales was ok as sub , they must like him
Finlayson was good and seemed more invested than his recent efforts .
We’re a little down on talent and probably won’t play finals , time for a list shake up but proud of the effort

 

[tribey]

Crows had low inside 50’s, but their keys just kick straight and make the most of it.

For five of their past 6 Showdown wins stretching back to 2019.

It’s genuinely insane.

 

[Chewy316]

I wouldn’t even say it was entirely due to our horrible gameplan. It’s more to do with how the Crows beat us every time. They flood our defence and counter attack, resulting in us having zero space up forward for leading marks. They have done it for multiple years now and we have no answer for it.
Add on to that how incredibly weak our forward line is. We just have no one who can win a contest up there to stop it just coming straight out again. As much as some don’t like them, you take out Lord, McEntee, Mead and add in Luko, Marshall and Rioli, we win that game by a comfortable margin. We are desperately missing quality key forwards who can kick straight.

Crows had low inside 50’s, but their keys just kick straight and make the most of it.

There was plenty of space all game for the forwards to lead into and mark. The Crows' flood wasn't the reason Port lost - it was Port's tendency to panic and revert to type instead of patiently working things through and maintaining composure.

One thing I've noticed this year is that their forward pressure is considerably less than past seasons. They are almost standoffish to their opponents when the ball is deep in the forward 50, allowing an easy rebound. I don't understand what the logic is behind it but on the face of it, it hasn't made sense to me and I've noticed it at every game this season which I've attended.

 

[PJ Power]

I did watch the game and regardless of turnovers etc I still would have played Boak instead of Jed. Stats straight from stat sheet. You obviously haven't looked to back up your sour opinion.

Would you not have played Lorenz or Jackson instead of both?

 

[PowerLil]

I decided to look at some stats comparing this week's game to last week against the dogs.

Last week:
-7 for contested ball (taking free kicks and contested marks out of the equation)
-14 clearances
-26 inside 50
+16 clangers
-90 on the scoreboard.

This week:
+22 contested ball (taking out contested marks and free kicks)
+27 clearances
+21 inside 50
+6 clangers
-5 on the scoreboard.

Port essentially dominated last night as much as the dogs dominated Port last week. But because of Ports fücking useless and inefficient gameplan, it's all for nought.

The only silver linings I'm finding is that they're moving the magnets around and finding out that a few players look like they'll have a future in their new roles. Ie Rozee to half back, Moraes on the wing, Bergman in the guts and Visentini in the ruck.

The biggest concern though was in the final quarter they reverted to type bombing it in long, after all season legitimately looking for a target in the forward 50 on the lead. Training that Hinkley ball out of them when the pressure is on is going to be a herculean task for Carr straight out of the gate.

Someone mentioned earlier Josh “stormed off” a bit earlier from the 3/4 time huddle. Anything juicy chewy? Anything to distract us from this dross of a season.

 

[SureBuddy]

There was plenty of space all game for the forwards to lead into and mark. The Crows' flood wasn't the reason Port lost - it was Port's tendency to panic and revert to type instead of patiently working things through and maintaining composure.

One thing I've noticed this year is that their forward pressure is considerably less than past seasons. They are almost standoffish to their opponents when the ball is deep in the forward 50, allowing an easy rebound. I don't understand what the logic is behind it but on the face of it, it hasn't made sense to me and I've noticed it at every game this season which I've attended.

I think a big reason is the complete lack of smarts by our forwards. It’s a 2 way street, they also need to offer a good lead. Mitch is the only one who kind of does, but as the game goes on and he gasses out like normal, even he drops off doing it. You watch the 3 crows forwards constantly presenting, ours stand on the spot and want it bombed on their head.

 

[Chewy316]

Someone mentioned earlier Josh “stormed off” a bit earlier from the 3/4 time huddle. Anything juicy chewy? Anything to distract us from this dross of a season.

Nothing to see here. People will look at anything at this point to make a mountain out of a molehill.

I'm just glad that last night was the last Showdown I will ever have to attend with the country bumpkin in charge.

 

[Nelso]

Dante has to play every game from now on. He is the future.

Bergman should have been playing in the middle a long time ago. Seems a waste now though as he is gone at season's end.

I am so emotionally detached to the club right now that I was not even bothered about the result. This season can't end quick enough.

 

[rogerjames]

Maybe the Facebook happy clappers are happy accepting it but lack of emotion doesn’t mean Port supporters accept them.

But, the club through its own poor decision making and lack of of leadership, development and list management is the reason we’re here. The lack of emotion is due to the club and the complete disappointment of what they have become. We’ve lost fight for the club because they have just constantly been a disappointment for a decade and repeated the same mistakes over and over.

If the club isn’t willing to make changes and make tough decisions within reasonable timeframes, why should we care? They don’t deserve it anymore until they prove to us they deserve our commitment and input. As the club is now and how it’s ran, they simply don’t deserve our emotional or financial investment.

It’s a sad state of affairs but only the club is responsible for this mess.

Agree with all this 100%. I just wish occasionally I could have a conversation with Port supporter friends who actually vocalise their displeasure at the current situation particularly in relation to the role Ken & Koch have played. Thankfully I have this forum.

 

[JimmyBC]

I reckon opposition coaches would love playing us it's always a good tune up for their defenders

-predictable lack of movement
-easy to congest the D50
-every port forward playing from behind easy to mark & run off
-low percentage pocket hugging
-Lacing out the bloke dropping back in the hole

It's like a paradise for playing defenders into form.

 

[rogerjames]

Luko needs to play off half back.

If he comes back & doesn't compete well as a forward after a few games it has to be the obvious move. Whatever position forces him to be more competitive as he has a good skill set that we cant afford to waste. Move Rat forward again as the gorilla forward until an alternative emerges.

 

[JHF1870]

Disappointed with the loss but can't fault the effort.

FWIW the most to take out of that game as a whole was how badly we exposed the Crows. Walker might look good some nights, but I reckon he's cooked. We exposed their midfield, but whether it's due to Adelaide's tight defense, or our inability to attack, we couldn't win the game. I thought we had our chances, but they also missed theirs too. What people don't realize is the shots we missed, we got back shortly after. Ultimately Thilthorpe won it for the Crows, and without him they're ****ed. I expect teams with better matchups to shut them down.

Since keeping stats on the team, I've come to realize how much we rely on 4-5 players, and then we have a heap of players who are 50/50 for a good game. Our bottom tier are below average. I refuse to pour all responsibility on coaches. Our list simply isn't up to scratch. Even if we won last night, there are some major issues that are going to expose us throughout the season.

I think in previous seasons we overperformed for various reasons. Yes we could have made the most of our opportunities like the Bulldogs in 16 but we didn't.

I thought Connor's game was everything we ask for last night. Threw everything at it. His speach at the end. Precise. Thank the charity, good game Crows. Walk off.

FWIW, a lot of our supporters here were talking about losing by 10 goals, or not even bothering to watch the game. The same as the Sydney game.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

Rioli would have been bloody handy - thanks media twats and Geelong players for deciding to join the pile on with ancient hurt feelings

 

[Ah12]

Bergman was excellent. Completely shut down Dawson and dominated him the other way. He needs to stay in the midfield now but gee if you could clone any player it would be him. So valuable in defence also. Keep him in the midfield and his trade value with skyrocket if he asks for a trade.

 

[rogerjames]

We haven't had a match for a tall forward for 13 years

Just hasnt been important enuf for our coaching & recruiting team. Imo its the first position you get right then build from there. Its cost us big time. And the club moans about lacking tall defenders at the Agm even though they prioritised every other position on the field with early draft picks throughout Kens regime.