Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVII

[Opium]

There is no appetite to remove Voss at all. Not even discussed

They know his strengths and weaknesses and believe they need to build around him with right people

He will be our coach in 2026

Thanks for sharing Soapy. Appreciate it as always

 

[agro]

There is no appetite to remove Voss at all. Not even discussed

They know his strengths and weaknesses and believe they need to build around him with right people

He will be our coach in 2026

Not putting the right people around Voss is on the Football Manager Brad Lloyd and Football Director Greg Williams - I hope this is one of the first items on Graeme Wrights agenda.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Not putting the right people around Voss is on the Football Manager Brad Lloyd and Football Director Greg Williams - I hope this is one of the first items on Graeme Wrights agenda.

I think 99.999% of folk here agree Lloyd has been there way, way, way too long.....

He's a bit of a non event imo.

 

[majesticseacapt]

Some feedback from some genuine Carlton ITK people on Friday night

No one truly knows what TDK will do. Most believe he is still deciding and it’s 50/50. He loves Carlton but the money is massive

Docherty’s future is unclear. He is giving his best. Feel is if we are struggling by MSD he could easily retire

Austin & Co preparing for possible Two picks in MSD. Newman/Docherty/Fantasia status will determine. Games against Swans GWS could well determine

Rumour Cottrell has very bad injury?

Wright speaking with a lot of football people. Changes will happen

Lot of $$ being allocated to improve recruiting and development in 2026

Very happy with Rob McInnes. Benefits are showing

Cook already handed a lot of things to Wright

SC is great spot and we are into 1-2 very good players. If TDK leaves we will go hard on 2-3 players. Don’t expect us to go to draft. We have some more than handy FS, NG players and apparently draft isn’t great?

Many believe Doc Saad to retire by end of year. Newman will play on

Kemp injury was bad. Attitude great and already on gym. Wants to be ready by pre season which would be ahead of schedule

Any update on Jagga?

I'm sure he's got plenty of support but would like to know how his recovery is tracking.

 

[Wickzki]

Fire up those Jimmy Bartel rumors again.

 

[Stamos]

Fire up those Jimmy Bartel rumors again.

Head of Footy?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Head of Footy?

 

[Wickzki]

Head of Footy?

It looks like it.

Apparently he and Patty Kinnersly are familiar with one another from Jimmy's work in domestic violence (and hers in Our Watch) and he and Wright are well connected as you'd expect. (Obviously Cook would be on board with that too not that that part matters as much).

Source: Hawks family.

 

[Garters]

I think 99.999% of folk here agree Lloyd has been there way, way, way too long.....

He's a bit of a non event imo.

Way too long. I would suggest 'bit of a non event' as underselling his position/contribution materially.
With my amatuer theoretical physicist cap on, I would suggest more blackhole like than non-event. Probably could even argue as proof that negative matter does in fact exist.

 

[sweethoney]

It looks like it.

Apparently he and Patty Kinnersly are familiar with one another from Jimmy's work in domestic violence (and hers in Our Watch) and he and Wright are well connected as you'd expect. (Obviously Cook would be on board with that too not that that part matters as much).

Source: Hawks family.

The Ed and jimmy podcast would be interesting if that happened

 

[RPCB]

Whenever I type in Jimmy Bartel and Carlton into the Google machine, AI is telling me that he supports Carlton. Is that true?

 

[Wickzki]

Whenever I type in Jimmy Bartel and Carlton into the Google machine, AI is telling me that he supports Carlton. Is that true?

No. Grew up in Bell Park and was always a Geelong person.

 

[RPCB]

No. Grew up in Bell Park and was always a Geelong person.

Then hopefully we can make him a Carlton person.

 

[bradfisher14]

Fire up those Jimmy Bartel rumors again.

 

[Accidental genius]

Jimmy bartel definitely has tge smarts and is a great person obviously

i dont know too much about any roles he’s held since retiring from footy?

He sounds very knowledgeable when discussing footy games on footy shows etc

what can we expect from him as a footy department director?

 

[sweethoney]

Jimmy bartel definitely has tge smarts and is a great person obviously

i dont know too much about any roles he’s held since retiring from footy?

He sounds very knowledgeable when discussing footy games on footy shows etc

what can we expect from him as a footy department director?

I think he was football boss at gws. He definitely had a role there

 

[JJBagger]

I think he was football boss at gws. He definitely had a role there

Footy director I think he was

 

[agro]

Regarding Jimmy Bartel are we talking about him as a Football Director (ie. as a member of the Board) or are we talking about him as General Manager of Football (replacing Brad Lloyd).

If it’s the latter he would have to give up all his media commitments.

 

[Aphrodite]

I think he was football boss at gws. He definitely had a role there

Footy director I think he was

Was on the GWS Board (Director)

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Jimmy bartel definitely has tge smarts and is a great person obviously

i dont know too much about any roles he’s held since retiring from footy?

He sounds very knowledgeable when discussing footy games on footy shows etc

what can we expect from him as a footy department director?

Yeah, but can he run through the midfield

 

[T2B_]

There is no appetite to remove Voss at all. Not even discussed

They know his strengths and weaknesses and believe they need to build around him with right people

He will be our coach in 2026

I don't mind this.

Not so long ago we were old coach merry go round Carlton.

Clearly despite his known weaknesses he's liked and respected enough. But yes, we need proper good support around him.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I don't mind this.

Not so long ago we were old coach merry go round Carlton.

Clearly despite his known weaknesses he's liked and respected enough. But yes, we need proper good support around him.

Agreed.

It is good to have a stable environment. The only concern is getting ambitious assistant coaches in, to work under a coach who has not had success yet.

We are way better off looking for more recent retirees who want to work with Voss the man, the former playing great.

 

[Accidental genius]

Yeah, but can he run through the midfield

I’d say he can ….….

 

[Will_Hayward]

No. Grew up in Bell Park and was always a Geelong person.

Although he grew up there, he went for Richmond.

 

[passmark]

I have no idea if he’s any good. Change everything for all I care , just get better!