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Mid East Israel attacks Iran. What are the likely consequences? How will it be resolved?
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Which news sources and commentators do you get your info from? I’d be interested to know?
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Iran are signatories to the NPT and allow IEAE inspections of their nuclear facilities. They ceased their nuclear program in 2003 and had a nuclear deal until Trump ripped it up. They still didn't return to developing nuclear weapons. Enriching Uranium for civil use does not mean they were developing nuclear weapons. If they were to develop it, it would be for deterrence like most nations with nuclear weapons, but there is no evidence they were building nuclear weapons. Netanyahu has been lying about it since the early 90s.
Head of US intelligence Tulsi Gabbard confirmed Iran were not building nuclear weapons as recently as March this year. The actions of the Israelis and the US is a baseless escalation.
You know who has nukes but refuses to confirm or deny it, refused to be a signatory of the NPT, took the US' nuclear program without their consent or knowledge, doesn't allow IEAE inspections of nuclear facilities, has the Samson Option that quite literally will result in a nuclear holocaust? If you said the Israelis, then you're correct.
They are literally the biggest nuclear threat in the Middle East given their incessant desire for war and chaos.
You can be certain now that Iran will work to obtain nuclear weapons to provide a deterrent and it's all the fault of the Israelis and the US. It's hilarious that they keep repeating "Iran is secretly developing nuclear weapons" when the genocidal Israeli state did exactly that even blindsiding the US. Every accusation is an admission it seems.
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Maybe there will be a new Sally Field film as a result of this?
(If you don't get that gag, she was in the movie "Not Without My Daughter")
(If you don't get that gag, she was in the movie "Not Without My Daughter")
Geez, you must be old like me.
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zionist apologists are starting to reappear, reciting zionist talking points. let's return to the genocide and the israeli war machine (the apologists don't appear too bothered by that - blood on their hands.) following are the comments from antony loewnstein, a practising jew with a social conscience who will be on the right side of history.
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TRT World interview on Israel's wilful recklessness in the Middle East - Antony Loewenstein
My latest interview with global broadcaster TRT World on the litany of lies being told about Iran and its “nuclear” program.
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test it in the congress, bernie. those who vote for it after the fact will be forever indelibly linked to the unauthorised attack by the crazed leadership.
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You don't understand how nuclear weapons work. They're a deterrent against being invaded. No sovereign state with its own army has tried to invade Israel since 1973 because they know Israel might nuke them in response. Invasions have only come from places like Palestine that won't get nuked because Israel wants the land in a habitable state, so they can settle it once they've got rid of the people currently there.
Iran wants nukes for a similar reason, to deter an invasion from the US and Israel. The Ayatollahs are bastards but they're not stupid, they know that using a nuke as an offensive weapon against Israel means every Iranian city being obliterated. Hence they won't go bombs away unless they're facing the threat of an invasion.
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Idf does not have expeditionary capability.
USA has never been boots on the ground in any Israeli war.
Iranian regime has been threatening Israel and the USA for decades.
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I have been searching for some time now for a clip that encapsulates who and what Netanyahu is and what he stands for to better understand his actions in relation to Gaza and Iran. This speech by Scott Horton, director of The Libertarian Institute, hardly an advocate for liberal values, is...
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they've financed israel both economically and militarily. without the yanks you would not have been able to forcibly and cruelly occupy land over decades, attack a number of neighbouring countries and now commit the genocide. without them you would be a middle order power.
are you comfortable with israel attacking a people who have virtually no protection (gaza), wilfully killing tens of thousands including babies, children, and women, bombing hospitals, starving those remaining?
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I know I have said this before, but I will keep repeating it because it is the truth. The truth cannot be uttered too many times.
Sanders resolution "No War against Iran" is a completely futile resolution which has no chance to even reach the floor of the Senate for a vote. But even if it did, it is completely meaningless, and the Trump administration will completely ignore it - just as Trump has repeatedly breached the US Constitution over the last 6 months.
The bill itself seeks to prohibit any funding for war against Iran without congressional approval.
The constitutional power of Congress to demand that it be consulted before a President decides to launch an attack on another sovereign country has been over the last two decades completely obliterated - by Democratic and Republican administrations alike.
Just three days after the September 11, 2001 attacks, the US Senate (98–0) and House of Representatives (420–1) granted the president virtually unlimited authority to wage global war under the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF).
Following its passage—along with the 2002 Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution—Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joseph Biden have carried out military interventions in more than 22 countries. These include bombing campaigns in Libya, Syria, Somalia and Yemen, as well as the full-scale invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Sanders is fully aware that his bill is a toothless deception, designed only to promote the illusion that there is a way to oppose Trump through Congress.
Within the US, there is enormous opposition to US intervention into war against Iran. Sanders is playing the role he always does: a political safety valve to divert this opposition into the framework of the two party system where it can be effectively railroaded and demoralised.
As a capitalist politician, the role of Sanders is to ensure that no political opposition independent of Congress and the two party system in the US begins to develop among masses of working people.
Sanders himself, in a social media post, gave himself away. He appealed to Trump to "live up to his promises of being a "peace candidate" ".
Are you f***ing kidding me? This is equivalent to appealing to Hitler to live up to his promises of peace after the annexation of the Sudetenland.
Finally, Sanders completely lies about the nature and causes of this war. In another social media post, he wrote:
“Netanyahu started this war by attacking Iran. … The U.S. must not be dragged into another illegal Netanyahu war—either militarily or financially.”
This is a total lie. The US was fully aware, and gave its approval, to Israel's surprise attack on Iran and the ensuing bombardment campaign. The US and Israel as its proxy are together carrying out long prepared plans to take geostrategic control of the Middle East, not just for the natural resources, but also for the ability to dominate critical global trading choke points, and thereby disrupt the economies of the US' major rivals: the US: China, Russia (and the EU).
From day 1, Netanyahu and Biden, and then Trump have worked together to implement the recolonisation of the Middle East by U S imperialism. First the genocide in Gaza to "solve the Palestinian question", then the obliteration of Iran's allies (Hezbollah, regime change in Syria) and now finally the US war of regime change in Iran, in collaboration with Israel. Netanyahu's regime, as the Mafioso sidekicks, naturally hope to score some loose change as well.
Sanders is political poison. In the final analysis, it is the likes of him and AOC who provide a left cover for the Democrats who in turn are collaborating with Trump.
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These alpha male tryhard masculinity-reincarnate gigachads better not dodge the draft, straight to the front lines
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Conflicts on your borders are not expeditionary.
Iran has attacked plenty of US facilities.
The point is Israel was never going to invade Iran.
What do you think the plan was? Waltz through Jordan and roadtrip down the Persian Gulf freeway through Iraq?
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Long distance/term force projection is what expeditionary capabilities are. Nice attempt at covering up your ignorance though.
Start with the Iran hostage crisis right up to the Houthi's today.
Very good to see that you are so concerned about Iranian military leadership. Not so much for the Iranian population but I guess it's a start.
Noone else wants to free Iran?
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You sound like of those people who blame their failures on the democratically elected leaders of another country.
I haven't made a single post about US politics and could care less.
Are you going to tell me about how bad Israeli's are now whilst defending the Iranian regime>
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