Toast Welcome to Freo Murphy Reid - pick 17 of the 2024 Draft

[s_wd6]

This kid is ****ing insane

 

[LongSerong]

23 touches and 15 score involvements. Every touch is gold...

 

[Quiexo]

One moment that really stood out for me was THAT kick to Shai in the middle in the third quarter, the vision and execution of the kick was breathtaking..

 

[BStaff17]

You know what its time for another update

Murphy Reid 12 wins from 18 games @ 66.67%

Harley Reid 6 wins from 38 games @ 15.79%

So Murph already has double the wins at half the amount of games to Harley.

Murphy Reid 13 wins from 19 games @ 68.42%

Harley Reid 6 wins from 39 games @ 15.38%

 

[Deveraux]

 

[apuchar]

Another great game by the kid.

 

[rgauci]

Rate him highly, he’s got all the tricks. His explosiveness and athleticism will improve naturally with time.

On the rising star front, Dan Curtin will be hard to beat, it’s annoying that 2nd year players are included.

It should just be an award amongst bottom age first year players.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Rate him highly, he’s got all the tricks. His explosiveness and athleticism will improve naturally with time.

On the rising star front, Dan Curtin will be hard to beat, it’s annoying that 2nd year players are included.

It should just be an award amongst bottom age first year players.

Curtin is really good but I don't get why he's the raging favourite now based on great form the last two months? What about Rounds 1-12? I think Reid and Ashcroft should still be ahead over the full year.

 

[s_wd6]

Curtin is really good but I don't get why he's the raging favourite now based on great form the last two months? What about Rounds 1-12? I think Reid and Ashcroft should still be ahead over the full year.

The way they’re talking about Curtin I thought he was far and away a favourite but his stats as a mid for the year are basically the same as Reid as a forward

 

[rgauci]

The way they’re talking about Curtin I thought he was far and away a favourite but his stats as a mid for the year are basically the same as Reid as a forward

He got switched to wing about round 12, but recency bias shows much better form than Reid. In saying that, I’m hoping the judges recognize the form all year rather than just 2nd half of the year.

 

[s_wd6]

He got switched to wing about round 12, but recency bias shows much better form than Reid. In saying that, I’m hoping the judges recognize the form all year rather than just 2nd half of the year.

He’s a good six weeks (only two real standout games though), but Reid has been good and consistent all year. Recency bias will work against him even though he was objectively better than Curtin this round too

 

[Alfonz]

Curtin is really good but I don't get why he's the raging favourite now based on great form the last two months? What about Rounds 1-12? I think Reid and Ashcroft should still be ahead over the full year.

I think it's fair enough to be honest. Reid has had quiet patches of his own, it's just that they are spread out over the year.

Over the whole season, Curtin has a higher Supercoach average and player rating (as listed on Wheelo website).

Those stats aren't everything, but it's a simple and reasonable way to assess, as those ratings try to amalgamate everything a player does. If you look at the rankings for player ratings on Wheelo, it seems to be a pretty good indicator of the best players in the game.

And there would be anticipation of that gap widening over the final rounds if Curtin continues his form.

 

[Cobbler]

One moment that really stood out for me was THAT kick to Shai in the middle in the third quarter, the vision and execution of the kick was breathtaking..

At first I thought he hung that ball too much, but the vision is extraordinary. 98% of the time you just dump kick that down the line and none of us would mind.

He really wants to make his touches count.

Incredible player.

 

[hoss]

Almost always makes smart decisions. Classy and poised. So grateful he slipped to us and we snaffled him.

 

[ImperialPurple]

If he’s anywhere in the vicinity, I’m the loud mouth screaming ‘give it to Murphy’

 

[anchor man]

Murphy makes winning the ball so simple, and has it worked out what to do with it immediately.
I think It looks like Curtin has to work harder for his possessions.
Both playing different roles as well.
A lot will depend on what the media "experts" from Melbourne have to say. But a I noticed one commrntator, could have been Russell give Reid a big wrap when they were lauding Curtin.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Murphy makes winning the ball so simple, and has it worked out what to do with it immediately.
I think It looks like Curtin has to work harder for his possessions.
Both playing different roles as well.
A lot will depend on what the media "experts" from Melbourne have to say. But a I noticed one commrntator, could have been Russell give Reid a big wrap when they were lauding Curtin.

Im going to get hate again but the truth of the matter is Curtin has traits that give him a generally higher ceiling. In the AFL era, The generational players are generally close to or 190cm + (Fyfe, Danger, Franklin, Pav, Cripps Pendles, Judd, Darcy) with the smaller top 5 player types rarer (Naicos, Gablett, Neale).

Thats not to say he cant be something incredible juat that the path is easier for Curtin.

Honestly, id prioritise Curtin over anyone else for the foreseeable future, he is the closest thing to Pav we've seen and a Freo die hard.

 

[freo84]

Im going to get hate again but the truth of the matter is Curtin has traits that give him a generally higher ceiling. In the AFL era, The generational players are generally close to or 190cm + (Fyfe, Danger, Franklin, Pav, Cripps Pendles, Judd, Darcy) with the smaller top 5 player types rarer (Naicos, Gablett, Neale).

Thats not to say he cant be something incredible juat that the path is easier for Curtin.

Honestly, id prioritise Curtin over anyone else for the foreseeable future, he is the closest thing to Pav we've seen and a Freo die hard.

Yeah i was hoping we were trying to bring him home last year. It would be even harder now given his stellar form.

 

[E Shed]

One thing I really noticed about Murph yesterday was obviously how well he positioned himself to get involved during transition but also how he would quietly appear in a hole in our forward line to receive a kick over the top when it seemed like they had all the gaps filled.
It was like he was invisible then suddenly reappeared right in front of where we sit for an easy receive.

 

[mattis117]

Im going to get hate again but the truth of the matter is Curtin has traits that give him a generally higher ceiling. In the AFL era, The generational players are generally close to or 190cm + (Fyfe, Danger, Franklin, Pav, Cripps Pendles, Judd, Darcy) with the smaller top 5 player types rarer (Naicos, Gablett, Neale).

Thats not to say he cant be something incredible juat that the path is easier for Curtin.

Honestly, id prioritise Curtin over anyone else for the foreseeable future, he is the closest thing to Pav we've seen and a Freo die hard.

Murphy probably doesn't have the athleticism to make it to top 20, but he can be a top 50 player for his entire career, and playing a critical role as the player kicking inside 50.

He is the kind of guy that plays 350 good games.

 

[wakojako]

Murphy probably doesn't have the athleticism to make it to top 20, but he can be a top 50 player for his entire career, and playing a critical role as the player kicking inside 50.

He is the kind of guy that plays 350 good games.

It depends, has Pendlebury ever been a top 20 player? I think Murphy has the same ceiling.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Murphy probably doesn't have the athleticism to make it to top 20, but he can be a top 50 player for his entire career, and playing a critical role as the player kicking inside 50.

He is the kind of guy that plays 350 good games.

I think he’ll surprise you in that department.

 

[DocT]

Hey All:
Big shout out to all the training and pre-season watchers that were screaming Murphy's name from the roof tops, you went early and you absolutely nailed it.
You should all be on $50K retainers as consultant talent scouts for the clubs that passed on our MR.

 

[Persoog]

Crazy insane money… if our club were considering paying that sort of coin for an unreliable 19 year old with an attitude problem, I’d be ropeable.

Having said that… pay Murph whatever he wants

Difference being - Bruce is neither unreliable nor has an attitude problem. He's also not a thug!

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

Im going to get hate again but the truth of the matter is Curtin has traits that give him a generally higher ceiling. In the AFL era, The generational players are generally close to or 190cm + (Fyfe, Danger, Franklin, Pav, Cripps Pendles, Judd, Darcy) with the smaller top 5 player types rarer (Naicos, Gablett, Neale).

Thats not to say he cant be something incredible juat that the path is easier for Curtin.

Honestly, id prioritise Curtin over anyone else for the foreseeable future, he is the closest thing to Pav we've seen and a Freo die hard.

Curtin's good enough to deserve the glaze so that one's fine, especially in a convo about potential. But I feel like in general you have this fallacy where because the best players in the past many years are big bodied athletic mids (especially if they also have good ball use), people see the B-tech or even C-tech version of that as better than the best version of any other archetype.

This is pretty much entirely directed to anyone who says Will Day is better than Caleb Serong.

 

[Bender571]

Murphy probably doesn't have the athleticism to make it to top 20, but he can be a top 50 player for his entire career, and playing a critical role as the player kicking inside 50.

He is the kind of guy that plays 350 good games.

Would you say he is less athletic than Neale or Serong?

Among elite players his closest comparison in style and size would probably be Sam Mitchell.