Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVIII

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

Since the end of 2015, Ken Hinkley is 1-26 against top 4 teams away from home with an average losing margin of 46 points.

Does Ken have the game plan to win at the pointy end of the seasoin?

Wow if true

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I’m impressed, there are many that are about to go full snarling zombie but I’m actually floored the club is not going down the easy route to please rabid supporters

Its excellent. Im looking forward to all the videos of supporters burning their memberships and club wear.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Let's go through the last few premiership coaches:

2024 - Fagan - First time senior coach
2023 - Fly - First time senior coach
2022 - Scott - First time senior coach
2021 - Goodwin - First time senior coach
2020/2019/2017- Hardwick - First time senior coach
2018 - Simpson - First time senior coach
2016 - Bevo - First time senior coach
2015/14/13 - Clarko - First time senior coach
2012 - Horse - First time senior coach
2011 - Scott - First time senior coach
2010 - Malthouse - Third time senior coach

We literally have to go back 15 years to find the last time a premiership coach wasn't in their first senior coaching gig. As much as I rate Longmire as a coach, not sure that history is kind to that desicion. Would much rather have Wright and co. try and pick the best assistant coach available and get them in to have a fresh look at things. Skipworth who we've rumoured to have been talking to seems to fit the bill; younger, modern gameplan, done extracurricular training in leadership etc., plus Wright would know if he's a good fit or not.

Voss isn't a first time senior coach

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

If youre referring to players I'm all for it.

100% this.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

The only figures from other clubs that I can gather are former Geelong that’s still involved in finals are - Shaun Grigg, Jeremy Laidler

Jeremy Laidler

Age

36

Ht

190cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

201.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

14.4

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.4

5star

, Joel Corey

Joel Corey

Age

43

Ht

191cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

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22.4

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.4

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

and Matt Egan. There’s also Neil Balme but he’s in his 70s so not sure if he would be interested.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

So if Voss does see out his contract and we lose a bunch of players this off season due to that are we to assume the board/Wright think we need to undertake a rebuild?
Surely if the players have made it known that they want out if Vossy remains the club would look at making a change to the senior coach?

Some of these players have seen off several coaches already. Maybe, just maybe, the problem is more players than coaches.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Well, for the first time in 25 years the heats on the players and football department and not tbe senior coach

 

[Blue__Balls]

How many premierships?

You want to limit the pool to "premiership coaches only"? Good luck, I guess...

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

hard to not conclude that that any player looking to exit is doing so due to the coach and the game plan....

Sayonara

 

[Iamcarlton]

Injuries don’t explain half of our performances this season.

Last season maybe but even then the lack of proper system was glaring

Easily explainable too many injuries yet again continuity is king how many games have Curnow & McKay played together this year 6-8 ?.
Their our 1 wood .
Walsh has never got going Cripps & Weitering have had down years TDK checked out .
Newman big loss .

Our system if one would call it that relies on our best players & leaders performing .
Collectively this year they have had a shocker .

If they actually want to stay & push to regain their fitness & best form along with a better run with injuries I have no doubt we can perform better next year .
An injection of youth Dean Ison Smith a couple of recruits can create energy .
Whether anything substantial eventuates I have doubts but its definitely possible if all are committed.

 

[yibbida]

Voss isn't a first time senior coach

Longmire inherited the team from Roos and won the premiership in his 1st year. Never won another one.

Scott inherited the team from Thompson and won the premiership in his 1st year. Took 10 more years to win a 2nd.

If premierships were easy to win and solely based on the coach, North Melbourne would be contenders this year right?

 

[ESKIE]

Well, for the first time in 25 years the heats on the players and football department and not tbe senior coach

Yes you’re right MJ

 

[Wickzki]

What’s your source? The AFL app news section?

Herald Sun rolling with it too

 

[CJMB]

Some of these players have seen off several coaches already. Maybe, just maybe, the problem is more players than coaches.

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

Longmire inherited the team from Roos and won the premiership in his 1st year. Never won another one.

Scott inherited the team from Thompson and won the premiership in his 1st year. Took 10 more years to win a 2nd.

If premierships were easy to win and solely based on the coach, North Melbourne would be contenders this year right?

We never would have won our premierships under Malthouse if we kept Ratten instead.

 

[ESKIE]

Wright playin the long game, hopefully we get some good assistants, refresh the list with a bit of experience

 

[Zlatan]

Wright playin the long game, hopefully we get some good assistants, refresh the list with a bit of experience

I’m asking myself which assistants would want to come on board with a coach that has 1 year left on his contract, doesn’t sound like any stability to me at all.

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

So is the aim to get Skipworth for the brains/gameplan, and Hinkley to make Voss follow it?

 

[dlb99]

Coaching carousel has been a disaster for Carlton, in-my-opinion the Brett Ratten

Brett Ratten

Age

54

Ht

184cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

to Mick Malthouse change set us back 10 years.

For once, hold firm, be rational & reasoned.

Conditioning and fitness has been abysmal, and not just this year. I would still like to hear the true Andrew Russell story. Nonetheless I knew we were cooked before round 1 when Jagga and Nick Newman both went down before the season.

There are many areas to improve.

I like this non-move by GW and the board.

 

[ESKIE]

I’m asking myself which assistants would want to come on board with a coach that has 1 year left on his contract, doesn’t sound like any stability to me at all.

So you sack Voss and that looks stable ?

 

[Opium]

And just like that, C4 hangs up the boots from the rumour game.

Big thanks to all my fans and all the fellow posters who came along for the ride and enjoyed the content.

You're not going away that easily!!

 

[Zlatan]

So you sack Voss and that looks stable ?

Whether we sacked him or not is another matter. I’m talking about the assistants who we are planning to bring on board. I can’t imagine they’re signing 1 year deals if these are high quality assistants, therefore what happens if Voss is sacked half way through next season? A new coach brought in with no say on his assistants? Not sure how this is going to work.

 

[Opium]

So you sack Voss and that looks stable ?

I don't think Voss has had the right assistants from beginning in all honestly.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

And where does that get us?

Maybe somewhere other than where the "big names" have led us since 2015. Which is usually no September footy. So If letting go a few big names shakes up the list then that is an absolutely great thing for this club.

 

[ESKIE]

Whether we sacked him or not is another matter. I’m talking about the assistants who we are planning to bring on board. I can’t imagine they’re signing 1 year deals if these are high quality assistants, therefore what happens if Voss is sacked half way through next season? A new coach brought in with no say on his assistants? Not sure how this is going to work.

Time will tell…