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Do you think players like Nick Daicos and Zach Merrett would play for Victoria next year?


If it's a success then there will eventually be demand to play a game in Melbourne, but the first/first few iterations will definitely be played outside of Victoria.

The history of SOO suggests otherwise.

A few SOO were played in Vic, and while they were successful in terms of crowds, interest, etc, the loss of HGA meant the Vics smashed whoever they played, so they didn't have a lot of them.

Of course the HGA will be a lot less these days (really just home crowd), so...
 
If you play for Vic, you know you'll never play SOO in front of a home crowd.

That's exactly what I said, it will be interstate but in front of a packed crowd, but knowing they have a whole state behind them would be a unique experience.
Do you think players like Nick Daicos and Zach Merrett would play for Victoria next year?

Definitely the first time they'll front up for the novelty factor. Also the two you mentioned are footy heads, so they'd play on a Monday afternoon in Frankston if they were allowed to. If it were Victoria playing every year and the initial contests weren't close though, you'd start to see players dropping out, it's why it can only really be every few years at this stage, for the vics anyway.
 
Definitely the first time they'll front up for the novelty factor. Also the two you mentioned are footy heads, so they'd play on a Monday afternoon in Frankston if they were allowed to. If it were Victoria playing every year and the initial contests weren't close though, you'd start to see players dropping out, it's why it can only really be every few years at this stage, for the vics anyway.
That's where you have to be mindful of the frequency in which these state games are played. The novelty will likely die pretty quickly if you play it every year. Every second year might be the way to go.
 
I think I read somewhere that Will Ashcroft would qualify for Queensland but Levi would technically qualify for Victoria, which just seems wrong to me lol. With a father son rule, Levi qualifies for Queensland
If this Victoria v WA match does go ahead in February, then we're going to get some clarity on the eligibility rules. Will Ashcroft would likely make a best 23 squad for Victoria so if he's not selected then that obviously means he's been classed as a Queenslander. We'll also find out if Charlie Cameron is considered a West Aussie because he live in WA from ages 17-19, as opposed to the first 17 years he lived in Queensland. I suspect both will be classed as Queenslanders and won't compete in the SoO match in February, even though both should warrant selection if they were eligible for those states.

Hopefully Ashcroft and Cameron get their chance to play SoO the following year when (presumably) other states compete.
 

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If this Victoria v WA match does go ahead in February, then we're going to get some clarity on the eligibility rules. Will Ashcroft would likely make a best 23 squad for Victoria so if he's not selected then that obviously means he's been classed as a Queenslander. We'll also find out if Charlie Cameron is considered a West Aussie because he live in WA from ages 17-19, as opposed to the first 17 years he lived in Queensland. I suspect both will be classed as Queenslanders and won't compete in the SoO match in February, even though both should warrant selection if they were eligible for those states.

Hopefully Ashcroft and Cameron get their chance to play SoO the following year when (presumably) other states compete.

It would be ridiculous to rob an undermanned QLD of him and his brother, when they're actually Queenslanders and Victoria has a million players to choose from. I hope it doesn't happen as I see Queensland as fielding a very strong state side in the next decade, arguably the second strongest in Australia. It would be great for the game too.
 
It would be ridiculous to rob an undermanned QLD of him and his brother, when they're actually Queenslanders and Victoria has a million players to choose from. I hope it doesn't happen as I see Queensland as fielding a very strong state side in the next decade, arguably the second strongest in Australia. It would be great for the game too.
I tend to agree, but all the media talk so far whether SoO will or won't be bought back has been around Vic/SA/WA which IMO is short sighted as there is potential for the non traditional states to be involved in their own right.
 
I tend to agree, but all the media talk so far whether SoO will or won't be bought back has been around Vic/SA/WA which IMO is short sighted as there is potential for the non traditional states to be involved in their own right.

Yeah I agree, but I think they wanna test the waters with the traditional ones first, then add the others later if it's a success. I never wanna see the allies concept again though I can tell you that much, it actually has the opposite effect of what would be achieved by a standalone nsw and qld team, in it's showing footy is weak instead of strong in those developing states.
 
It would be ridiculous to rob an undermanned QLD of him and his brother, when they're actually Queenslanders and Victoria has a million players to choose from. I hope it doesn't happen as I see Queensland as fielding a very strong state side in the next decade, arguably the second strongest in Australia. It would be great for the game too.
Having the Ashcroft brothers playing for Queensland feels like the right thing to do. It would certainly be great for the competitiveness of a SoO competition considering how strong Victoria is regardless of whether the Ashcrofts are in the team AND how much weaker Queensland would be without the Ashcrofts. If SoO 2026 is a success then scheduling a 2027 edition with SA v Victoria and NSW v Queensland would be a great way to follow up and turn it into more of a national competition.
 
It would be ridiculous to rob an undermanned QLD of him and his brother, when they're actually Queenslanders and Victoria has a million players to choose from. I hope it doesn't happen as I see Queensland as fielding a very strong state side in the next decade, arguably the second strongest in Australia. It would be great for the game too.
Pretty sure Xharlie and Wil would be Queenslanders under the rules that changed early-to-mid 1990s (1993?) so players only had one state. Levi might just scrape as a Vic instead.
 
Looks like a State of Origin announcement is imminent and it's as we expected - WA v Victoria @ Perth Stadium on Saturday, February 14, 2026. Interestingly, Andrew Dillon provided clarity on the likely eligibility rules by stating "I think it will be about where you spent the most substantial part of your teenage years, which is what it has been historically."

So this means both Ashcroft boys would be eligible to represent Victoria, but Charlie Cameron wouldn't be eligible to respresent Western Australia as he spent the majority of his teenage years in Queensland. It'll be interesting to see how they view a player like Lachie Weller who lived in Tasmania from the ages of 13-15.5 and in Queensland from ages 15.5-18.5 before being drafted to the Fremantle. I'd assume that rules him in the Queensland category due to spending a few more months up north, but who knows.

Also, the article seems to suggest boarders would potentially be eligible to represent the state they boarded in. That means a player like Daniel Rioli, who is very clearly NOT Victorian and is a loud + proud Northern Territorian, would be eligible to represent the Big V because he started boarding school in Ballarat at 14 years of age. Surely that won't be allowed...

 
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Seems like a missed opportunity to play the State of Origin game in Adelaide on that weekend mentioned above, imagine LIV Golf during the day into a SOO game at night. AFL would be printing money...
 
Seems like a missed opportunity to play the State of Origin game in Adelaide on that weekend mentioned above, imagine LIV Golf during the day into a SOO game at night. AFL would be printing money...
The AFL should throw a NSW vs QLD one in as well. I feel like both teams would be quite even and it would do well. SA and WA should rotate each year, but i think the AFL will use this to see if there's interest in expanding it.
 
Seems like a missed opportunity to play the State of Origin game in Adelaide on that weekend mentioned above, imagine LIV Golf during the day into a SOO game at night. AFL would be printing money...

Actually s.a with the emergence of the crows and a few s.a stars might be a better team than w.a now, I would have done it as a two year concept with the w.a game the following year.

It also would help scupper the bears introduction in Perth if it were 2027 in Perth. No doubt announcing the date this far out the NRL will put something on the same night to take viewers away on the east coast, that's assuming of course ch7 will even put it on their main channel nationally. They don't typically support the game very well across the whole country by promoting it properly on their main channel into nsw and qld.

The other thing is, why wouldn't they put it on Sunday twilight in Perth, therefore Sunday night on the east coast? Really make it a tv extravaganza. Doesn't make sense making it Saturday when you could make it Sunday with no impact on fixturing and significantly increase the tv viewers.
 

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Looks like a State of Origin announcement is imminent and it's as we expected - WA v Victoria @ Perth Stadium on Saturday, February 14, 2026. Interestingly, Andrew Dillon provided clarity on the likely eligibility rules by stating "I think it will be about where you spent the most substantial part of your teenage years, which is what it has been historically."

So this means both Ashcroft boys would be eligible to represent Victoria, but Charlie Cameron wouldn't be eligible to respresent Western Australia as he spent the majority of his teenage years in Queensland. It'll be interesting to see how they view a player like Lachie Weller who lived in Tasmania from the ages of 13-15.5 and in Queensland from ages 15.5-18.5 before being drafted to the Fremantle. I'd assume that rules him in the Queensland category due to spending a few more months up north, but who knows.

Also, the article seems to suggest boarders would potentially be eligible to represent the state they boarded in. That means a player like Daniel Rioli, who is very clearly NOT Victorian and is a loud + proud Northern Territorian, would be eligible to represent the Big V because he started boarding school in Ballarat at 14 years of age. Surely that won't be allowed...

Not mecessarilu, the old rules were based on the samne age - but only on where you LIVED. This is how Tom Hawkins played for All-Stars *NSW) despite his Victorian schooling in that age bracket.
So, Ashcrofts could be Queenslanders under those rules. Although even on where they lived one might be Victorian deopending on the exact ages. But, to get more players playing in a possibly one-off game they may welll decide to include boarding schools; which would advantage the Vics more than anyone.
 
Surely Dillon isn't that dumb to have kids like the Ashcroft's play for an absolutely stacked Victoria side instead of Queensland that could be a force in 5 to 10 years time, actually, on second thoughts..
 
Not mecessarilu, the old rules were based on the samne age - but only on where you LIVED. This is how Tom Hawkins played for All-Stars *NSW) despite his Victorian schooling in that age bracket.
So, Ashcrofts could be Queenslanders under those rules. Although even on where they lived one might be Victorian deopending on the exact ages. But, to get more players playing in a possibly one-off game they may welll decide to include boarding schools; which would advantage the Vics more than anyone.
Problem is, the Ashcrofts weren't boarders. They actually relocated the whole family to Melbourne in Will's 15th year.

Surely Dillon isn't that dumb to have kids like the Ashcroft's play for an absolutely stacked Victoria side instead of Queensland that could be a force in 5 to 10 years time, actually, on second thoughts..
You'd think they would find a way to ensure the Ashcrofts end up in a maroon jumper if they are thinking about the future of this concept. It would be so easy for Victoria to replace the Ashcrofts given their depth. Queensland would be significantly disadvantaged without these two born and bred Queenslanders in the team.
 
Problem is, the Ashcrofts weren't boarders. They actually relocated the whole family to Melbourne in Will's 15th year.


You'd think they would find a way to ensure the Ashcrofts end up in a maroon jumper if they are thinking about the future of this concept. It would be so easy for Victoria to replace the Ashcrofts given their depth. Queensland would be significantly disadvantaged without these two born and bred Queenslanders in the team.
Surely it should be what state you were born in. You know, state of origin.

But the caveat if you’re born in the ACT, you play for NSW. NT, play for Queensland.

They need the extra talent.

Don’t know what to do with Tasmania, though. Aren’t they completely ****ed compared to the quality they had in the 70s and 80s?
 
Problem is, the Ashcrofts weren't boarders. They actually relocated the whole family to Melbourne in Will's 15th year.
I thought one boarded briefly before the move. Anyway, yes, it is possible one would be Victorian and one Queenslander due to the ages when the family moved. I can't recall the ages used in the final version of old SoO rules - once players had one state only.
 
Looks like a State of Origin announcement is imminent and it's as we expected - WA v Victoria @ Perth Stadium on Saturday, February 14, 2026. Interestingly, Andrew Dillon provided clarity on the likely eligibility rules by stating "I think it will be about where you spent the most substantial part of your teenage years, which is what it has been historically."

So this means both Ashcroft boys would be eligible to represent Victoria, but Charlie Cameron wouldn't be eligible to respresent Western Australia as he spent the majority of his teenage years in Queensland. It'll be interesting to see how they view a player like Lachie Weller who lived in Tasmania from the ages of 13-15.5 and in Queensland from ages 15.5-18.5 before being drafted to the Fremantle. I'd assume that rules him in the Queensland category due to spending a few more months up north, but who knows.

Also, the article seems to suggest boarders would potentially be eligible to represent the state they boarded in. That means a player like Daniel Rioli, who is very clearly NOT Victorian and is a loud + proud Northern Territorian, would be eligible to represent the Big V because he started boarding school in Ballarat at 14 years of age. Surely that won't be allowed...


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I thought one boarded briefly before the move. Anyway, yes, it is possible one would be Victorian and one Queenslander due to the ages when the family moved. I can't recall the ages used in the final version of old SoO rules - once players had one state only.
There may be an technicality at play that I hadn't considered. It would appear Will Ashcroft returned to Queensland in 2020 due to the COVID pandemic cancelling all junior footy in Victoria and he played some junior footy for Morningside in the lower levels of the QAFL. So that would mean he spent all his years between 0-14, part of his 15th and part of his 16th years in Queensland. Surely that qualifies him as a Queenslander...
 
My current WA side
(because I feel like it)

Baker Taylor Humphries
Clark Barrass Curtin
Bolton Cripps Jones
Pickett Naughton Hill
Waterman Hogan Georgiades

English Warner Jackson

J Martin, Neale, Cameron, Fonti
 
My current WA side
(because I feel like it)

Baker Taylor Humphries
Clark Barrass Curtin
Bolton Cripps Jones
Pickett Naughton Hill
Waterman Hogan Georgiades

English Warner Jackson

J Martin, Neale, Cameron, Fonti
Does Wil Powell make the team?

You'll have to remove Charlie Cameron after Dillon's comments today confirmed that he would be classed as a Queenslander. Unless you meant Darcy Cameron.
 
Does Wil Powell make the team?

You'll have to remove Charlie Cameron after Dillon's comments today confirmed that he would be classed as a Queenslander. Unless you meant Darcy Cameron.
Darcy Cameron

I would put Powell as I think for pure defender mid sized to small it is between him and Starcevich and I like Powell more.
Just needed to find room for Curtin and think he could be a versatile defender. Could swap Powell for Fonti.
 
Don’t know what to do with Tasmania, though. Aren’t they completely ****ed compared to the quality they had in the 70s and 80s?
Yeah it's a bit rough on Tassie, but at least they're getting an AFL team rightttttt

In all seriousness, even in NRL SOO, there are great players who are from elsewhere in the country or Kiwis that don't get to play in State of Origin.
I guess they get to rep their country however (although international rugby league isn't that great considering how dominant Australia is and Aus have won 11 of the last 12 world cups).
 

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