List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[Juddrockz]

Should Charlie leave,any players incoming need to be able to kick goals as the opposition are going to be wearing Harry like a cheap suit each week. Harry will be double an triple teamed taking him out of the equation so we need quality players coming in that kick goals.
I see Papleys name popping up in he media again re Charlie and Sydney? Its a thanks but no thanks from me.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

He’s a quality player without being anything too special.

Problem is he is just as slow as Hewett and Cerra.

I thought he had a bit of pace about him? Haven’t watched alot of him tho.
If he’s another Hewett/ cerra pace wise, then that’s not what where after them imo

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I thought he had a bit of pace about him? Haven’t watched alot of him tho.
If he’s another Hewett/ cerra pace wise, then that’s not what where after them imo

He's pretty much Hewett if he was a better kick and not quite as good defensively.

Personally feel like we'll just back in Lord and Cerra to fill that spot post Hewett and Cripps. Need a POD with some real dynamism.

 

[Stamos]

You place way too much value on your perceived stars. It is all about nett outcomes.

Was replying to a hypothetical and suggested a slight pick upgrade would be a good addition. I would rather have three long term best 22 players with skill sets we would need with the rumoured changes.

Charlie is by description on this forum, less than perfect despite his obvious ability and ceiling. He has injury concerns and he his longevity is somewhere between 3-5 years.

The list of players put up would be likely over ten years each of shelf life.
A viable swingman capable of playing key position at either end. For mine, more defender. Definite need with SOS gone and HOF out for a year.
A quality small/medium forward. If my memory serves me MVP for the Allies who sits in a line behind some quality incumbent players at GWS and has other prospects also in the mix for any vacancy that comes up. He is a NSW boy so I would have thrown up other options, but he is quality.
Harry Oliver is an elite left foot kicking half back who is as tough as nails and ultra combative as well as athletic enough as a rebounder. Sitting behind Ash, Whitfield and co. for the foreseeable future along with highly rated Leake could be gettable. GWS have good depth and most of their players serve multi year apprenticeships in the twos.

We need to establish depth as well as upgrade in some areas.

You don’t trade guns for depth

 

[swuzzlebubble]

You don’t trade guns for depth

What if you have too much salary tied up in too few stars?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

What if you have too much salary tied up in too few stars?

You trade them for space and top end picks.

Trading Curnow out for 3 players we could get for mid 30s picks would be insanity.

 

[Wickzki]

Swingman, small/medium forward and an elite left footed rebounder, all of whom are good enough to play AFL level regularly, but no real vacancies in their positions at GWS. Most won’t know Oliver, but would be the jewel in the crown. Throw in their F2 for our F3 and we would probably be close.

FWIW I think every where other than GWS Gruzewski is groomed as a defender first. Would be great for ‘26 with HOF out and Dean’s rookie year.

I struggle to see how aA deal could be done with the Suns. Pretty sure picks and players could be negotiated through Swans. Any deal with the Cats would likely come up short.

I like all three prospects but they're not the centrepieces of a Charlie trade

If we're to trade Charlie it means a hard reset and more than likely rebuild

I want 2026 first round picks and young players in that order.

Those 3 along with 2026 first(a) is more like it but it'll have to be something other than just GWS's first.

GWS have the capital on their list to go all in on Charlie if they valued him for a premiership tilt but they'd have to do the work to get there first.

 

[Flaggers22]

You place way too much value on your perceived stars. It is all about nett outcomes.

Was replying to a hypothetical and suggested a slight pick upgrade would be a good addition. I would rather have three long term best 22 players with skill sets we would need with the rumoured changes.

Charlie is by description on this forum, less than perfect despite his obvious ability and ceiling. He has injury concerns and he his longevity is somewhere between 3-5 years.

The list of players put up would be likely over ten years each of shelf life.
A viable swingman capable of playing key position at either end. For mine, more defender. Definite need with SOS gone and HOF out for a year.
A quality small/medium forward. If my memory serves me MVP for the Allies who sits in a line behind some quality incumbent players at GWS and has other prospects also in the mix for any vacancy that comes up. He is a NSW boy so I would have thrown up other options, but he is quality.
Harry Oliver is an elite left foot kicking half back who is as tough as nails and ultra combative as well as athletic enough as a rebounder. Sitting behind Ash, Whitfield and co. for the foreseeable future along with highly rated Leake could be gettable. GWS have good depth and most of their players serve multi year apprenticeships in the twos.

We need to establish depth as well as upgrade in some areas.

Do you remember when Wayne Carey suggested we trade pick 1 for Tom Bugg and Dom Tyson? How did that age? If it were up to me, the only way I'd trade Charlie is if they gave us enough assets to obtain two top 5 picks, or if they trade one of the big four (Gulden, Blakey, Heeney, Warner).

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Max Thompson for Bendigo continues to impress. Dudes athleticism is awesome and he plays with some serious mongrel.

Reminds me a lot of Pat Voss.

 

[Wickzki]

Max Thompson for Bendigo continues to impress. Dudes athleticism is awesome and he plays with some serious mongrel.

Reminds me a lot of Pat Voss.

Nice. How's Travaglia going?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Nice. How's Travaglia going?

Didnt know there was another playing

 

[Stamos]

What if you have too much salary tied up in too few stars?

With TDK walking out we don’t

 

[Wickzki]

Didnt know there was another playing

Perhaps I'm wrong. I thought Riley represented Vic country along with Max. Oh well.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

You don’t trade guns for depth

Was really just continuing an extreme hypothetical, but Gruzewski and Gothard would play straight away, possibly Oliver too...they are good up and coming players, not mid 20s VFL players or discards

 

[Keyza]

I’m originally from Warrnambool (JUH neck of the woods). Trust me, he is not worth the headache

I have a daughter who lives in Warrnambool and I have heard the same thing.

 

[Stamos]

Was really just continuing an extreme hypothetical, but Gruzewski and Gothard would play straight away, possibly Oliver too...they are good up and coming players, not mid 20s VFL players or discards

Yeah, but you could use the TDK compo for a trade like that

 

[Wickzki]

 

[BlueTongue]

I’m originally from Warrnambool (JUH neck of the woods). Trust me, he is not worth the headache

Ha, What part of the 'bool? I'm from there originally. Went to 'North Tech' with Schwass back in the day.

 

[SolGoodman]

Future CFC player Treloar was best on in the VFL finals today.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Max Thompson for Bendigo continues to impress. Dudes athleticism is awesome and he plays with some serious mongrel.

Reminds me a lot of Pat Voss.

Love the kid but he is about 5 foot 8. Same local club as Brent Daniels who goes alright at about the same height.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Future CFC player Treloar was best on in the VFL finals today.



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Jackson Voss has had a great season for Frankston. Any chance of a uncle-nephew rule?

 

[Juddrockz]

Future CFC player Treloar was best on in the VFL finals today.



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Would be a good get if he could stay on the park.

 

[Wickzki]

Treloar is a good culture guy. Would be a good step into coaching for him to come across.

We're going to have some cap space that needs filling in the short term. Wouldn't mind working a minor trade with the Dogs if they were up for it. Something that doesn't impact our FA compensation but also helps them out.

Win-win.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

With TDK walking out we don’t

TDK wouldn't have been on that much... probably freed up about 600-700k...

 

[macky99]

TDK wouldn't have been on that much... probably freed up about 600-700k...

His last contract renewal he had multiple clubs offering large contracts definitely more than that.