Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[swuzzlebubble]

I doubt they apply it that way

If they did it would also imply we could get two picks for TDK alone - a band one and whatever band the extra points is worth, which was never going to happen

 

[Dramoth]

The 'fishing rod' or 'lasoo' are also options.

Don't use the sprinkler... it might look cool, but it also makes you look like a try hard.

 

[Benaly28]

If Brisbane want to keep him they're going to have to improve their offer.

This is happening at the same time as Brisbane locking onto at least one significant money target from *.

Regardless, if they get Bailey then they've got a damn good player.

Exactly what dogs are doing keeping saints honest with an increased offer for Wilkie.

 

[katmanblue]

I can tell you that as good a theory as that it is it was driven by Jack.

I heard that as well

 

[JustaBattler]

Curnow is 28, and there's no suggestion he won't at least have another 4-5 years left (Jeremey Cameron is 32, for example, and had a similar dip at the same age). Even if he 'only' repeats 2025 (playing largely as a lone forward in an injury-riddle team) he would still be the Swans second highest goal-scorer (behind Heeney) and an upgrade on their current options. At best he's a Coleman medal winner and a game-breaking star, who is also extremely marketable

For Carlton, whatever we receive has to factor in a) Charlie is the favourite of almost all the kiddies out there, and b) any pick in the 10-20 range is going to get used on a F/S who we will get regardless.

From Carlton's POV, you absolutely can't walk out of this and tell 50,000 primary school kids that their hero basically got traded straight-up for Ollie Florent. You just can't - not when Jack Silvagni left, and TDK, and the team missed the finals.

For Sydney, it then becomes whether they think the risk is worth it.

I've said elsewhere that I think it's probably hard for Sydney, and impossible for Geelong. I think if it is Sydney it has to be something like:

• we get their first round pick, and are maybe able to package this with SOS and TDK compensation to ensure we get two picks + Dean in the top 20.
• we get both depth and a 'feature' player back the other way.

For the feature player - we have to have someone you can point out to the kids and say 'we got that guy'. Papley is that, but clearly seems off the table. Blakey/Heeney/Warner/Gulden = dreaming. I think feature player has to be one of McInerney/Hayward/Logan McDonald/McCartin or as a dark horse, Mills (who has been injured and slipped... enough).

Then we need depth - I'd like to see us push for 1-2 fringe players who just can't fit into a Sydney team that has a couple of academy players, plenty of both young and old guys, etc. Guys who can play for us, but won't for them.

Right now that would be from a list that is something like: Corey Warner, Harry Cunningham, Sam Wicks, Angus Sheldrick, Ollie Florent, Jake Lloyd, Matt Roberts, or an unknown like Will Green (19yo ruck taken at pick 16 a couple of years ago).

Based on that, I think the minimum I think passes for us has to be:
- Sydney first round + Will Hayward + Sam Wicks
That's your 'things are just unresolvable with Charlie'

What I'd hope for would be:
- Sydney first round (pick 12) + McInerney + Sheldrick + Florent

Sydney is probably jumping at the first (subject to players of course). The latter? I mean, it's CHARLIE CURNOW. He turns arguably the Swans weakest position into a strength, puts them into premiership contention, and its giving up their fifth best wing/midfielder, a pick that will slide as far as 15, and some steak knives?

How about old man Heeney and young man Gulden for starters - no ? That is ok.bye.

 

[RoyalBlues]

* have targeted Bailey largely as a defensive mechanism.

I think we’re targeting Bailey to move up the ladder



. . . with flyin’ colours

 

[carlton09]

Liam Reidy Freo agreed to terms with us. 3 year offer

 

[carlton09]

Don't know anything about him but I do know they tried hard to convince him to stay

 

[tarczonandjane]

I’d be very surprised if Bailey is coming to either us or *. That’s just based on trade history where first choice players from clubs at the top of the ladder almost never go to clubs out of that upper tier.

 

[Blue__Balls]

I am actually fairly comfortable with letting Wright & Davies decide who stays & who goes as both have exceptional resume's in the industry.

I understand supporter angst around losing TDK, Jack & maybe Charlie, but it might be the catalyst we need to move on as a club & raise the bar of standards with the playing group.

Was thinking the same today - could legitimately be a galvanising experience for those who stick around. Round it out with a change of captaincy and we might see a big uptick in effort and application next year as the players reclaim some degree of ownership of their own performance. Then it's just a matter of focusing recruitment efforts on players with the right traits (kicking to advantage being high on the list) and we'll see how high we can climb in the next few years.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Bailey won’t be coming to Carlton.

If he does leave, it’s to Essendon or one of the Adelaide clubs.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Liam Reidy seems a bit … “meh” I get Sam Rowe

Sam Rowe

Age

38

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.7

4star

MG

94.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.4

4star

vibes with how he plays as a forward.

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

Delisting lemme and trading CC would mean we need to trade in a kpf. If we can't do that, then the CC trade won't happen.

What happened with Lemmey plays no role in the Charlie decision. That'd be like saying we delisted Cincotta so we can't trade Cripps.

 

[btdg]

Reidy certainly is a human footballer who is tall.

We seem to be taking the minimalist approach to rucks. Lowest salary cap position in the team, just fill it up with relatively big bodies and hope they can break even. Given enough experience, who knows, they might even have a good year or two.

Worked for Collingwood with Darcy Cameron

14

Darcy Cameron

Age

30

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

/Cox. It works for Geelong who seem to be currently rolling out some combination of Blicavs, SDK, Neale and whoever else happens to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Works for Brisbane with Darcy Fort

32

Darcy Fort

Age

32

Ht

204cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

2.9

3star

CL

2.9

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

9.2

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.2

2star

CL

3.6

4star

HO

21.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

CL

2.2

4star

HO

15.6

5star

and Oscar McInerney

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Oscar Mcinerney

Age

31

Ht

205cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.1

2star

K

4.1

2star

HB

3.9

3star

CL

1.4

4star

HO

14.3

5star

D

6.9

1star

K

4.1

2star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

1.9

4star

HO

16.4

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.6

3star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

11.2

5star

.

That's three of the top four so it can't be too bad a strategy - I am 100% ok with this approach if it leaves salary cap space free elsewhere.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Liam Reidy Freo agreed to terms with us. 3 year offer

Hello, I, like many other non-blues supporters like to follow the best run thread on the site, the Bluemours thread. I find offering Reidy three years staggering, equally more staggering if we tried to keep him...

 

[Aphrodite]

Liam Reidy | AFL

Follow Liam Reidy's progress through AFL

www.fremantlefc.com.au

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

Hello, I, like many other non-blues supporters like to follow the best run thread on the site, the Bluemours thread. I find offering Reidy three years staggering, equally more staggering if we tried to keep him...

Maybe we think we're getting Harley and Reidy is just his nickname

 

[RoyalBlues]

Hello, I, like many other non-blues supporters like to follow the best run thread on the site, the Bluemours thread. I find offering Reidy three years staggering, equally more staggering if we tried to keep him...

Are you for real? apologies for a little age-related Sesame Street line

 

[Zlatan]

Liam Reidy seems a bit … “meh” I get Sam Rowe vibes with how he plays as a forward.

Tell me he’s at least better and more versatile than Pitto..

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Tell me he’s at least better and more versatile than Pitto..

 

[Mezzoculo]

Tell me he’s at least better and more versatile than Pitto..

 

[Blue__Balls]

You'd assume that if Reidy is getting a 3 year deal, that the money is on the much lower end. He's not coming over as first choice ruck, maybe not even second choice. He's a break glass option who should rightly be expecting to play 20+ games in the twos.

Longer contract, bit of security, balanced by being less per annum....like, $200-$250k a year levels.

On that basis, I can see why we'd do it....but I feel like there must be other low cost, primarily VFL rucks going around who could be enticed with a 2 year deal, to at least give us a bit more flexibility with list spots a bit sooner.

 

[The Blueseum]

Liam Reidy | AFL

Follow Liam Reidy's progress through AFL

www.fremantlefc.com.au

Has anything good ever come out of Brighton?

 

[Wickzki]

Liam Reidy Freo agreed to terms with us. 3 year offer

Been meaning to ask here as none of my basketball contacts know ... Is he any relation to Pat Reidy?

 

[Coona Blues]

Reidy WAFL LAST 10 MATCHES
ROUND COMPETITION OPPOSITION K H D M T HO FF FA G B
Round 20, 2025 League Swan Districts 14 8 22 5 4 33 2 3 1 0
Round 19, 2025 League Subiaco ……….10 9 19 2 2 42 2 5 0 0
Round 18, 2025 League Perth ………………..16 6 22 7 6 49 2 2 2 1
Round 17, 2025 League Claremont ……….13 1 14 2 7 41 3 3 0 0
Round 16, 2025 League West Coast 14 5 19 1 10 42 4 6 1 0
Round 15, 2025 League East Fremantle 11 9 20 1 6 48 2 3 0 2
Round 13, 2025 League East Perth ……….12 6 18 2 3 31 2 0 1 1
Round 11, 2025 League South Frem. 7 6 13 0 5 52 3 4 0 1
Round 10, 2025 League West Coast .9 7 16 4 3 39 2 4 1 2
Round 8, 2025 League Subiaco ………12 6 18 2 6 46 3 2 1 0
Sorry for poor formatting, when I edit it is fine