Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[agro]

Noticed that Pitto was in the club gym 8am this morning, good to see. Voss was doing a decent workout as well.

Would prefer he work with a sprint coach

 

[agro]

“This is no failure….I got back at Carlton for my own personal vendetta/satisfaction for dismissing me” - SOS
Also got my son a ripping deal to see out his career.
Have asked Ben down to our new VFL team to try out..who knows where this could lead to in resurrecting his career.

As Bob Hawke once said “you never stop being a father” - and that goes for ALL your children, you’d do anything for them.

 

[smit_is]

it's an interesting approach.

TDK comes in at 1.8, Marshall leaves which frees up 900 (?) but also brings a good pick in the door. So they're 900 down, but have a younger player and got a pick.

Similar could happen for SOS at 800-900 (depending on source) then losing Wilkie (maybe on less?) but a pick comes back. Compensate for drop in quality by adding Aleer for support, probably doesn't cost a heap in terms of draft capital but has an inflated contract to lure him over.

There's some logic in there - not saying it's sound but I can see the approach - although the TPP is getting an absolute belting in the process.

I’m trying not to look at it through navy blue tinted glasses, but from the outside it feels like you’re paying more for less.. losing experience and leadership while gambling the future of the list on picks and inflated contracts. That doesn’t sound like sustainable list management to me.

That said, the Saints clearly needed to change things up, and maybe this is the necessary step?

 

[ctwenty1]

If there's a potential trade to Sydney for Charlie (involving players) I think the swans will know, at the end of the day, that they'll have to give one of their stars to get one of our stars.

I would take warner and then on trade to WCE for this year's pick 1 (or 2) and next year's WCE first round and try to use that to get butters.

Prefer butters over gulden

 

[HereComesJuddy]

I would take warner and then on trade to WCE for this year's pick 1 (or 2) and next year's WCE first round and try to use that to get butters.

Prefer butters over gulden

Butters will come with a close to 2 million a year price tag. I don’t think the club are wanting anymore big contracts on the books

 

[3rd Grade Maggy]

As Bob Hawke once said “you never stop being a father” - and that goes for ALL your children, you’d do anything for them.

So he's arranged a mentorship for Tom with Milney ?

 

[katmanblue]

Butters will come with a close to 2 million a year price tag. I don’t think the club are wanting anymore big contracts on the books

Yeah, but .... BUTTERS

 

[The Bighouse]

I would take warner and then on trade to WCE for this year's pick 1 (or 2) and next year's WCE first round and try to use that to get butters.

Prefer butters over gulden

Aren’t we hopeful Jagga will be a similar version of Butters?

Take Gulden everyday of the week. Lefties
Not a big fan of Warner, underperformed most of this season and not someone to rely on as your major star but WCE may bide their time for FA (be smart to - they need to boost their squad with young talent and high-end picks, though Shannahan shows there’s talent from mid-picks).

Butters as a FA would be good but having to trade would hurt us next year.

 

[FairKouta]

Aren’t we hopeful Jagga will be a similar version of Butters?

Take Gulden everyday of the week. Lefties
Not a big fan of Warner, underperformed most of this season and not someone to rely on as your major star but WCE may bide their time for FA (be smart to - they need to boost their squad with young talent and high-end picks, though Shannahan shows there’s talent from mid-picks).

Butters as a FA would be good but having to trade would hurt us next year.

Butters is a level
Above gulden by far

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Butters will come with a close to 2 million a year price tag. I don’t think the club are wanting anymore big contracts on the books

1.3m pa + a lifetime free supply of Visy boxes...

 

[circusdevil]

Happy with Reidy to smash into TDK and JSOS and be crudely reported in each of his games against them. Money and list space well spent.

 

[Dramoth]

Seems like an underwhelming pick up but who knows. We need someone to play ruck in the VFL and as a backup to Pitt.

I know HOK was initially a ruckman we've turned into a forward, I wonder if that's part of his development or we really don't see him as a long term no.1 ruck and we believe forward/2nd ruck is his go.

HOK is going to be our long term ruckman. He’s going to be a ruck forward for the next couple of years playing second fiddle to Pitto or whoever we get in as our senior ruck. People have to remember he’s only 20.

 

[Blue since 72]

Wright on record as saying that HOK isn't tall enough to be #1 ruck in the modern game

Hmm 202 isn't tall enough? interesting take by him.

 

[Dramoth]

When you have KPF's over 200cm these days and with the rules trying to bring the leaping ruckman back in, he's probably right.

Have you seen HOK’s jump at ruck contests? He’s a better jumper than TDK. He was jumping all over Goldy.

 

[bmaurizio]

Agree Butters is the superior footballer and has a significant , strong presence on the park , more consistent than Gulden too.
If Zack had Cripps’ protection in the middle, he would be scary good.

 

[Dramoth]

I'm assuming he's referring to this section from a recent interview.
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I think that he’s talking more about his physical build rather than his height. But, he’s 20 years old. He appears to still be filling out. A couple of years as a forward/ruck while he keeps filling out, he’ll be more than ready to take over the #1 ruck spot.

 

[Matty411]

I took Vossy's comments on HOK to be that his body is still too slight to handle the hits as a ruck but as he fills out and matures, that'll change.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

If Zack had Cripps’ protection in the middle, he would be scary good.

wut? Cripps protection is being Cripps? He protects himself. TDK certainly doesn't. It's why Cripps was vocal about liking pitto as ruck. Pitto actually offers him some material help

 

[Sonny Jim]

That I would potentially agree with. He does seem lightly framed for a no.1 ruck, at least at this point. He still has filling out to do imo so that may change.

CHF

 

[RPCB]

Happy with Reidy to smash into TDK and JSOS and be crudely reported in each of his games against them. Money and list space well spent.

I suspect there will be lots of players across the competition smashing into TDK from now on. His contract has just put a bullseye on him.

 

[Diamond Jim 007]

Would prefer he work with a sprint coach

A fast jog would be good.

 

[Diamond Jim 007]

I suspect there will be lots of players across the competition smashing into TDK from now on. His contract has just put a bullseye on him.

Second time we played Norf he got thrown into the fence and never got never ball or Xerri after that.

 

[Bluechip66]

Do we have any interest in Merrett? He is an absolute weapon by foot & workrate.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Do we have any interest in Merrett? He is an absolute weapon by foot & workrate.

Just need to convince him we're a premiership contender

 

[RPCB]

Second time we played Norf he got thrown into the fence and never got never ball or Xerri after that.

Xerri is definitely a dirty ruckman.