Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[NavySteel]

Yes.

A-grader? Or low risk, high reward?

 

[Coona Blues]

Bailey Fritsch no longer on our radar.

Great news

 

[Coona Blues]

If Charlie went to Geelong I'd take O'Sullivan and a pick and run.

My thoughts exactly. They won’t do it, he will be/is a generational talent. Many on here would not know who he is, let alone contemplate it. KPD first, but swingman, wingman, even pinch hitting ruck.

Went through their list looking for someone they might release who is around the right value. They aren’t letting a Holmes or Dempsey type leave. The other maybe would be Mannagh(who would be spectacular as HHF) but they would need to pony up plenty more.

Both COS and HOF could play at either end, so could coexist with Weiters and Dean. probably there best young KPD (sorry SDK) and some comparisons to Blicavs Swiss Army knife capabilities.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Thats just someone's opinion. Its not gospel.

Its baloney. Every KPF in the comp is boom or bust. Either way, Walter is one of the best KPF prospects I've seen come through the junior pathways in my time as an avid draft watcher.

Kids as athletic as any and has the right mindset in terms of aggression.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

So Flog McClure on the latest ep of the tradies podcast today said that speaking to people around the Charlie situation over the weekend, the only club that looks like could do a deal is Gold Coast.

Sydney have sold the vision to Charlie but don’t want to offer anyone good or who we are interested so won’t be able to get a deal done. The player we want from the suns is Jed Walter, suns reluctant to give him up.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

AA, Coleman medal..not sure what else he could have achieved.

Those things travel together so not 2 separate accomplishments. 2 years out of 10. You don't get them and stop.

 

[raymagoo]

Definitely not a shocking kick. I personally hope we go after him but he just won't be a major part of any Curnow trade if it was to happen

Would cost FA on his own. Good depth/fringe which we lack

 

[swuzzlebubble]

So Flog McClure on the latest ep of the tradies podcast today said that speaking to people around the Charlie situation over the weekend, the only club that looks like could do a deal is Gold Coast.

Sydney have sold the vision to Charlie but don’t want to offer anyone good or who we are interested so won’t be able to get a deal done. The player we want from the suns is Jed Walter, suns reluctant to give him up.

Thanks.
How is Sydney not wanting to offer anyone good enough different to the GC situation?

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Thanks.
How is Sydney not wanting to offer anyone good enough different to the GC situation?

Not sure maybe Walter is more realistic but I have no idea.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

This sounds like the perfect description of Greg Williams.

Give me a player with a good football brain over somebody whose main attribute is legspeed any day of the week. We need to seek a few of these types out.

We already have these types in the team.

Hewett, Newman, Cripps, Cerra etc.

Our issue is we don't have literally any closing speed on our list outside of Saad and even he's starting to look a bit slow out there at his age.

Football brains are essential to a team, but in the modern day you also need the athletes around them or you end up with a list like ours that is treacle slow and get burnt to a crisp in any sort of open transition play game.

 

[GT619]

If Charlie went to Geelong I'd take O'Sullivan and a pick and run.

 

[blue healer]

Even in the article on Channel 7 it says he "remains a priority" to Carlton and just that Port is one of a few clubs that have asked Carlton about him as he is still out of contract.

Not even Carlton would spend the whole year (he played every game) developing a small forward/mid we desperately need and then trade him for what would be very little (given he is out of contract)

Umm, didn't we just do that 12 months ago?

 

[JimmyRabbit49]

Umm, didn't we just do that 12 months ago?

Owies was 27 - he was hardly "developing"

Motlop at 21 averaged more possessions, more tackles, more contested possessions, more metres gained & more clearances than Owies did last year

 

[Crippa#9]

My thoughts exactly. They won’t do it, he will be/is a generational talent. Many on here would not know who he is, let alone contemplate it. KPD first, but swingman, wingman, even pinch hitting ruck.

Went through there list looking for someone they might release who is around the right value. They aren’t letting a Holmes or Dempsey type leave. The other maybe would be Mannagh(who would be spectacular as HHF) but they would need to pony up plenty more.

Both COS and HOF could play at either end, so could coexist with Weiters and Dean. probably there best young KPD (sorry SDK) and some comparisons to Blicavs Swiss Army knife capabilities.

Our problem is we don't score enough and you wanna take away a 60+ goalkicker for another defender?

In your scenario, if Harry is unavailable (which is more often than not lately) then we literally don't have a key forward on the list.

 

[blue healer]

Owies was 27 - he was hardly "developing"

Motlop at 21 averaged more possessions, more tackles, more contested possessions, more metres gained & more clearances than Owies did last year

I wasn't referring to Owies, was referring to Kennedy but will concede we didn't do any developing of him.

 

[Red_man2008]

If Charlie went to Geelong I'd take O'Sullivan and a pick and run.

Id want O’Sullivan, Dempsey (or Miers) and pick 17/18.

 

[JJBagger]

So Flog McClure on the latest ep of the tradies podcast today said that speaking to people around the Charlie situation over the weekend, the only club that looks like could do a deal is Gold Coast.

Sydney have sold the vision to Charlie but don’t want to offer anyone good or who we are interested so won’t be able to get a deal done. The player we want from the suns is Jed Walter, suns reluctant to give him up.

Don’t buy that for a second. McClure is an assistant coach on a team coached by Paul Connors. Reckon he’s being fed info by him to shape the public narrative

 

[Zlatan]

Sydney have sold the vision to Charlie but don’t want to offer anyone good or who we are interested so won’t be able to get a deal done. The player we want from the suns is Jed Walter, suns reluctant to give him up.

They probably sold the vision as “we’ll pay you this amount, but we’re only prepared to offer Aaron Francis + a future SPP 2nd rounder, it’s up to you to get out of Carlton” which is why his manager started leaking info to the media to sow more discontent at the club.

I’d love the club to send a solid warning in the media straight back at Charles.

 

[smashbox gill]

Not sure maybe Walter is more realistic but I have no idea.

Walter is gettable imo.
He’s out of contract at end of next year and if he doesn’t plan on re-signing they will look to trade him this year to give themselves the best chance at Charlie.
I’d expect we would have to pay up as I’m sure clubs like west coast have offered big long term contracts

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Yes.

Petracca?

 

[carlton_99]

Yes.

But how would we fit the Bont into our salary cap...?

 

[Ezayyak]

I like Motlop. Thought he was going to jump a level after his fantastic end to '23. Obviously injuries got him but his development has stagnated this year. Not sure what is missing.

 

[GT619]

any updates on the coaching front

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I like Motlop. Thought he was going to jump a level after his fantastic end to '23. Obviously injuries got him but his development has stagnated this year. Not sure what is missing.

Speed, skill, composure?

 

[The Blueseum]

Yes.

Waiting for skadoosh to post this 'Yes' up on the No Discussion rumours thread.