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Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

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We aren’t trading Charlie for a bundle of picks. If it’s not involving top tier players there won’t be a deal.
That is what happens at every club. A star player wants out and gets traded for picks and maybe an up and coming player. Carlton aren’t the exception to the rule
 

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I just don't think that there is much likelihood that we get a star at the end of trading Curnow.

Worse, it's more likely than is safe that Curnow would have a negative effect on the team next year.

He's gone. We are going to get the best deal we can by playing the teams off each other.

We might get just picks this year, but use those picks to land a big star next year.

Multiple year futures trading introduces a whole new way of getting value out of these situations
 
I just don't think that there is much likelihood that we get a star at the end of trading Curnow.

Worse, it's more likely than is safe that Curnow would have a negative effect on the team next year.

He's gone. We are going to get the best deal we can by playing the teams off each other.

We might get just picks this year, but use those picks to land a big star next year.

Multiple year futures trading introduces a whole new way of getting value out of these situations

Think about it this way.

We trade Curnow for a 2026 First and 2x 2027 Firsts.

Next year, having known the currency we have we spend the year wooing Zak Butters. He nominates us and we trade Port the 2027 firsts and some and land Butters.

Start planning multiple years in advance on how to get value
 
If we don’t receive a superstar in return then this deal is off. Maybe it involves a 3 club trade for it to happen. But a bunch of crappy picks and a young boom or bust player is just never happening under GW watch. Some of you have been brain washed by Brad Lloyd’s work for near on a decade.

Which superstar did WCE get for Judd?

Which superstar is GWS get for Cameron?
 

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There's too much of a chasm between what we would require in a Curnow trade and what we get offered. No chance the Cats could get it done.
True, he’s not a free agent so no amount if farms and Cotton On deals (unchecked by the AFL of course) can get this over the line unless they offer up what Charlie is really worth
 
It’s time for a big shake up. Happy for the club to take Charlie over breach of his contract if he is in fact refusing to play for us again. Get him off our books and de-registered till end of 29. I’d rather get nothing for him than be rail-roaded.

And f$!. Geelong, they’ll probably offer us a Cam Guthrie and another hack /done player for him anyway.
Look, Charlie is as sharp as a brick, but if he is still on the list next year, he’ll be playing and to his full capacity. No amount of credibility damage to potential suitors is worth such petulance.
 
True, he’s not a free agent so no amount if farms and Cotton On deals (unchecked by the AFL of course) can get this over the line unless they offer up what Charlie is really worth
The smart money would be on nothing happening and it all being forgotten by the first day of pre season.
 

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Judd and Cameron were out of contract!

Judd was one of, if not, the best player in the comp and 24 years old...

Free agency didn't exist at the time and he also made it clear that he wanted the Eagles to be compensated fairly.

As for Cameron, when a club matches an offer, they have the power... that's why it's called RESTRICTED free agency...

I already told you Cameron's options would have been stay at GWS or enter the draft LOL as if he was going to do that...
 
Will get to Sydney imo and the deal in the end will be hayward and Gulden.

Gulden will ask to be in the trade he was a Carlton supporter before being Sydney it not like Sydney is his home WA is so imo being a supporter previously will help him get to carlton plus he is paid handsomely already I think like 1.3 but will done in a background nothing getting leaked between Sydney, Carlton and his management it has happened before so don't be surprised plus I think that's a fair deal
 
Will get to Sydney imo and the deal in the end will be hayward and Gulden.

Gulden will ask to be in the trade he was a Carlton supporter before being Sydney it not like Sydney is his home WA is so imo being a supporter previously will help him get to carlton plus he is paid handsomely already I think like 1.3 but will done in a background nothing getting leaked between Sydney, Carlton and his management it has happened before so don't be surprised plus I think that's a fair deal
Gulden is from Sydney. You’re thinking of Warner from WA.

And Gulden and Hayward together would probably be overs.
 
Will get to Sydney imo and the deal in the end will be hayward and Gulden.

Gulden will ask to be in the trade he was a Carlton supporter before being Sydney it not like Sydney is his home WA is so imo being a supporter previously will help him get to carlton plus he is paid handsomely already I think like 1.3 but will done in a background nothing getting leaked between Sydney, Carlton and his management it has happened before so don't be surprised plus I think that's a fair deal

I get what you are saying, and Charlie has similar marketing power to Buddy. I can see the swans doing a deal but Hayward and gulden will be very difficult to pry out (both academy picks?)
 
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