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[Addy23]

The part where twomey suggests clubs might need pick number 2 and 12 to match a bid at 1 is worrying.

What if the club with pick number 2 doesn’t want to trade it? Which is almost never. Especially if you remove the items they’ve had to pay it for a player who’s asked for a trade.

Once you remove those times and times a team has traded a pick out to avoid a player bid the amount of times a team has traded pick 2 is prob never? Unless I’m missing a time but it would still be incredibly rare.

So how is a team meant to get their nga player then?

Really what you’re encouraging then is draft manipulation.

Get the player to tank their value in second half of the year / tank team interviews.



The idea port should miss out on Cochrane cause he’s a number 1 pick and we can’t trade for pick 2 while another club could pick up gun nga after gun nga semi regularly is stupid.

Like a club getting Ashcroft x2 Marshall Gallup but we would have to eat shit ?

Thats an example though. It could also be 3 and 10. Or 4 and 9. Or 5 and 6.

But your point still stands to an extent. The AFL will be making those higher picks much more valuable. Or encourage draft manipulation.

 

[Addy23]

This would be idiotic (on-brand for the AFL) but it would actively encourage tanking by sides out of finals contention to secure the lowest possible position to improve their draft hand.

How hard is it to just do away with the discount for F/S & NGA. The 'new' rules they brough in last year haven't even had a chance to filter through and they're changing them again.

I think the best rule change would've been to remove the discount and make clubs take number of picks that equal open list spots.

I wouldn't be upset with a 10% tax either tbh

 

[jackag24]

Using 2 picks makes sense.. if you kept the discount..

 

[minno12]

There's also this though...

 

[PatientMental]

Watch Tasmania bid on every single academy and fs player in their first draft with pick 1.

 

[powermacs]

There's also this though...
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That’s all they need to do. You need to give up 2 good draft picks to get a top end talent. I don’t think anyone would complain about this.
Also brings clubs without FS/academies up the order if clubs have to use 1st and second round picks to match a bid.
Restrictions on top 4 and 8 can get in the bin though. Thats going to encourage tanking.

 

[TazD]

This only ****s us lol

 

[MrChow]

There's also this though...
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So for a Pick 1 match (3000 points) you would need Pick 6 (1659) and Pick 8 (1443).

 

[Ford Fairlane]

 

[TheSimTechGuy]

I can't see how we get Dougie or Zemes now without having a horrid couple of season. Honestly this has been the year from hell **** me.

 

[MrChow]

This is brutal. So if you have a number 1 pick, and you finish say 15th bottom 4, you still have to trade away a star to get another top 10/12 pick to get your player.

You’re better off giving a player to each of the teams above you on the ladder to not bid on your player.

 

[malcheski]

AFL: There will be no lock-out for F/S & NGA

Also AFL: You need eleventy million first round picks to match a bid

 

[powermacs]

I can't see how we get Dougie or Zemes now without having a horrid couple of season. Honestly this has been the year from hell **** me.

Dougie won’t be an issue (when they announce he’s ours).
The following year we will need to find draft picks.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Good of them to get Brisbane's dynasty in place before they came after the rest of us with a donkey's dick.

 

[Port2Power]

Attention all our future F/S's and NGA's.

To join Port you must do the following:
1. Mild to average performances in games
2. Pretend to have a soft tissue injury from time to time during games to be taken off
3. Perform badly in interviews with other teams

Failure to do all three will likely contribute to you playing for another club as we will not be able to match bids with these new ridiculous rules

 

[rumoursofwinter]

How do you know what picks you need to trade for when its a bidding system? You don't know the pick the bid will be at...you dont know what the picks you trade for will become?

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Attention all our future F/S's and NGA's.

To join Port you must do the following:
1. Mild to average performances in games
2. Pretend to have a soft tissue injury from time to time during games to be taken off
3. Perform badly in interviews with other teams

Failure to do all three will likely contribute to you playing for another club as we will not be able to match bids with these new ridiculous rules

leaked sniffing of a line of coke* would help as well
* icing sugar

 

[TheSimTechGuy]

This is brutal. So if you have a number 1 pick, and you finish say 15th bottom 4, you still have to trade away a star to get another top 10/12 pick to get your player.

You’re better off giving a player to each of the teams above you on the ladder to not bid on your player.

That's how I read it. It's a real gamble that can hurt your club for an additional year assuming you trade future picks.

 

[TazD]

This is designed to hurt clubs with multiple NGA/FS in a single year Eg, us in 2027.

 

[MrChow]

If they truly cared about equalisation the common sense thing to do: would be to for Top 6 teams to have to pay the free agency compensation from this year. Full stop.

Then - to wait two years before introducing any new draft laws. Then bring in a system that favours equalisation.

It it’s in from next year - teams will as they do already, refuse to trade early picks (adding to this there is more incentive not to, as their pick will slide), so our only hope of getting Dougie and Zemes is for them to either ‘stop developing and training’ to not be number 1 picks, or for us to finish wooden spooners.

Or finish bottom 4 and trade both Butters then Bergman, but only to non finalist clubs (which they will not go to).

lol AFL is a joke. Meanwhile the gap widens between Div 1 and Div 2.

 

[Young Gun #6]

So how does it work when you don’t know what picks you will need.

If a team bids on them at their pick you have 5 minutes to go out and get better picks if you don’t have enough points?

The teams finishing bottom 4 will have everyone over an absolute barrel.

Pick 2 could just say nah **** you give us butters or you don’t get pick 2 and then we’re rooted and miss out on the nga / father son even when we may have say picks 10,12,15 and still can’t use them to get the player.

 

[Young Gun #6]

And if you prepare for the worst you can only use 2 picks so say we acquired picks 5 & 8 picks thinking Dougie would be bid on at pick 1-2. If he falls to 3 or 4 we still have to use picks 5 & 8 or have like 5 mins to trade one of them down.

With the other team trading with us in that 5 minute period knowing we are desperate or we’ll lose the player…

Insane system that will just be a massive rort for the bottom 3-4 teams each year.

 

[TheSimTechGuy]

Looking at Cal Twomey's Phantom draft as an example.

Suns would get Zeke Uwland (pick 1) with picks 6 and 12

Suns miss out on Dylan Patterson (pick 4)

Brisbane miss out on Daniel Annable (pick 5)

 

[Ford Fairlane]

This is designed to hurt clubs with multiple NGA/FS in a single year Eg, us in 2027.

It's going to do a bit of damage to clubs with just one player. It is in all practicality a lockout.

 

[Young Gun #6]

How is it even remotely possible to plan for what 2 picks you’ll need when you don’t know when the bids will come.

You have 5 minutes to acquire the picks or have to go into the draft holding something like picks:

5, 8, 12, 15, 22, 25 to have a chance at acquiring say Pilot, Salopek, Rodan assuming none went top 2 but all were top 20 picks ha.