AFL Grand Final 2025 AFL Grand Final Discussion Thread - Geelong Cats vs Brisbane Lions

[RussellEbertHandball]

Can we poach any Queensland talent now that their youth participation rates exceeds SA and WA?

Not if they are any good. They will match any bid and probably try and bury one or two of them.

We have a number of ex Magpie champions and average players who live in Queensland. If they have had sons later in life, ie late 30's to late 40's, then that might be our best chance.

 

[Grave Danger]

Storm v Broncos final should be a corker.

No Panther 5-peat. Storm will have two extra days rest than the Broncos after the NRL decided to split their prelims over Friday and Sunday.

 

[240volt]

No Panther 5-peat. Storm will have two extra days rest than the Broncos after the NRL decided to split their prelims over Friday and Sunday.

Yeah they didn’t want to go up against the AFL GF.
Watching today’s game it was an exciting Finnish with all the crowd involved.
For me it was a much better spectacle than what I have seen all year with AFL.

 

[Portology]

Yeah they didn’t want to go up against the AFL GF.
Watching today’s game it was an exciting Finnish with all the crowd involved.
For me it was a much better spectacle than what I have seen all year with AFL.

It was a genuine epic but my goodness outside of SoO madness NRL can be epically boring a lot of the time.

 

[JimmyBC]

What's the average grand final winning margin the last decade? it must 8 or 9 goals, pretty grim.

 

[240volt]

It was a genuine epic but my goodness outside of SoO madness NRL can be epically boring a lot of the time.

I get your point but AFL has lost a lot for me.
It’s turned into such an over possession ring a Rosie backwards sideways dinky kickfest.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Have a look at who Brisbane were able to cover for this September

1) Jack Payne - CHB - played in 2024 Flag, ACL Rd 15 this year - played 13 games in 2025 / 81 total career
2) Eric Hipwood

30

Eric Hipwood

Age

28

Ht

204cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.1

2star

G

1.1

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.4

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.4

5star

- CHF - played in 2023 GF and 2024 Flag, ACL Rd 24 this year - 22/199
3) Jarrod Berry

7

Jarrod Berry

Age

28

Ht

193cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

8.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.1

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

10.6

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

6.2

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

- mid - played in 2023 GF and 2024 Flag, dislocated shoulder PF against Collingwood - 24/184
4) Noah Answerth

43

Noah Answerth

Age

26

Ht

182cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

MG

208.9

3star

D

15.0

4star

K

15.0

5star

HB

0.0

1star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

MG

357.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

179.2

3star

- back pocket - played in 2024 flag, tore his Achilles tendon in Rd 19 - 17/88
5) Kiddy Coleman - HBF - played in 2023 GF, their best kick, only played 1 game in 2024 did his ACL in Rd 1, then this year also only played 1 game, Rd 11 - a couple of weeks later does his quad at training, out for 5 weeks, plays a VFL game and further complications, out for the year. - 1/66
6) Lincoln McCarthy

11

Lincoln Mccarthy

Age

32

Ht

176cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

9.1

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.3

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

- forward pocket - played in 2023 GF, ACL Rd 8 in 2024, then does it again at start of March this year. 0/151

Tom Doedee

12

Tom Doedee

Age

29

Ht

190cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

228.8

4star

D

15.3

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.3

2star

MG

228.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

9.4

5star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.4

4star

had a season ending wrist injury from Rd 22.

2024 GF was similar but it was 3 ACL's and one shoulder

1) Coleman see above
2) McCarthy see above
3) Darcy Gardiner

27

Darcy Gardiner

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.1

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.0

1star

- Played in 2023 GF, tore his ACL Rd 9
4)Oscar McInerney

46

Oscar Mcinerney

Age

31

Ht

205cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.1

2star

K

4.1

2star

HB

3.9

3star

CL

1.4

4star

HO

14.3

5star

D

6.9

1star

K

4.1

2star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

1.9

4star

HO

16.4

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.6

3star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

11.2

5star

- Played in 2023 GF, dislocated shoulder in PF v Geelong

Had 2 other ACL injuries Tom Doedee

12

Tom Doedee

Age

29

Ht

190cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

228.8

4star

D

15.3

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.3

2star

MG

228.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

9.4

5star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.4

4star

and Kalin Lane.

As I said before, we have to copy some of their medical and fitness programs. There would have been a lot of players in their last 3 GFs who took the field with injury concerns, not just Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

32

Ht

177cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

.

Plus their kids ie U/22's have been fantastic.

2024 GF Outs Payne, Hipwood, Berry, Answerth, (all inj) McKenna, Daniher (retired)

2025 GF Ins... Gardiner, Gallop, L. Aschroft, Reville, Marshall, McInerney

 

[theouthouse]

Brisbane fill their list with footballers who can football as a first priorty and not too many speculative/development picks.

 

[The Terrible Thinker]

Brisbane fill their list with footballers who can football as a first priorty and not too many speculative/development picks.

Would be nice if we can identify and develop players from the age of 13 that has priority to stay with the club during drafting age.

Meanwhile we are reliant on other footballing programs to produce talent that we can only select from a nationwide pool. No wonder Will Ashcroft is already at Dustin Martin levels of success.

Time for the AFL to remove the shackles and allow all AFL clubs to setup the same systems.

What is the Brisbane Lions Academy

It started in 2010 to help develop young AFL and AFLW talent in Queensland, NSW, and the ACT.
lions.com.au

The Academy works across three levels by age:

Level 1 (Academy Fundamentals) – ages 13-14
lions.com.au

Level 2 (Development) – ages 15-16
lions.com.au

Level 3 (Performance) – ages 17-18, preparing for the AFL or AFLW draft.
lions.com.au

As of recent years, there are ~535 athletes in the program, supported by full-time, part-time and volunteer staff.
lions.com.au

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

 

[theouthouse]

Would be nice if we can identify and develop players from the age of 13 that has priority to stay with the club during drafting age.

Meanwhile we are reliant on other footballing programs to produce talent that we can only select from a nationwide pool. No wonder Will Ashcroft is already at Dustin Martin levels of success.

Time for the AFL to remove the shackles and allow all AFL clubs to setup the same systems.

What is the Brisbane Lions Academy

It started in 2010 to help develop young AFL and AFLW talent in Queensland, NSW, and the ACT.
lions.com.au

The Academy works across three levels by age:

Level 1 (Academy Fundamentals) – ages 13-14
lions.com.au

Level 2 (Development) – ages 15-16
lions.com.au

Level 3 (Performance) – ages 17-18, preparing for the AFL or AFLW draft.
lions.com.au

As of recent years, there are ~535 athletes in the program, supported by full-time, part-time and volunteer staff.
lions.com.au

That and 3 year base salary for already developed players.

Maybe the AFL can scrap draft contracts for Academy listed players and have them go for open market value.

 

[Grave Danger]

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Charlie Cameron only managed one goal against them though.

 

[TazD]

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No lessons here for the supporters on this board who are DOOMERS on the squad.

 

[pastmyprimus]

It’s been confirmed that Cameron sustained a broken arm during the game. And it looked the arm was pretty damaged by the way he was carrying his arm.

But Scott refused to sub him. Not sure what the doctors were telling him.

Reminded me of the time Goodwin kept playing Petracca even after he was hit hard during a game. Later confirmed he sustained four broken ribs, a punctured lung and a lacerated spleen.

Coaches are meant to be ruthless but players are owed a duty of care. The AFL will probably sweep this under the carpet.

 

[Waspy79]

It’s been confirmed that Cameron sustained a broken arm during the game. And it looked the arm was pretty damaged by the way he was carrying his arm.

But Scott refused to sub him. Not sure what the doctors were telling him.

Reminded me of the time Goodwin kept playing Petracca even after he was hit hard during a game. Later confirmed he sustained four broken ribs, a punctured lung and a lacerated spleen.

Coaches are meant to be ruthless but players are owed a duty of care. The AFL will probably sweep this under the carpet.

Dare say Cameron was thinking he was doing the team thing trying to play with one arm, when in fact he did the selfish thing in not putting his one good arm up and saying "i'm done" to allow Martin to be subbed on much earlier.

 

[PowerLil]

It’s been confirmed that Cameron sustained a broken arm during the game. And it looked the arm was pretty damaged by the way he was carrying his arm.

But Scott refused to sub him. Not sure what the doctors were telling him.

Reminded me of the time Goodwin kept playing Petracca even after he was hit hard during a game. Later confirmed he sustained four broken ribs, a punctured lung and a lacerated spleen.

Coaches are meant to be ruthless but players are owed a duty of care. The AFL will probably sweep this under the carpet.

It was clear to me that the arm was broken and said as much at home and I have no medical training whatsoever.
After seeing Aliir concussed and sent back out on the ground, I'll believe anything.

 

[TeeKray]

It’s been confirmed that Cameron sustained a broken arm during the game. And it looked the arm was pretty damaged by the way he was carrying his arm.

But Scott refused to sub him. Not sure what the doctors were telling him.

Reminded me of the time Goodwin kept playing Petracca even after he was hit hard during a game. Later confirmed he sustained four broken ribs, a punctured lung and a lacerated spleen.

Coaches are meant to be ruthless but players are owed a duty of care. The AFL will probably sweep this under the carpet.

There's a not so subtle line between playing through pain and playing with an obviously broken limb that any normal person would be going straight to an ED with. It was a very bad look for the game.

 

[soafraid]

It’s been confirmed that Cameron sustained a broken arm during the game. And it looked the arm was pretty damaged by the way he was carrying his arm.

But Scott refused to sub him. Not sure what the doctors were telling him.

Reminded me of the time Goodwin kept playing Petracca even after he was hit hard during a game. Later confirmed he sustained four broken ribs, a punctured lung and a lacerated spleen.

Coaches are meant to be ruthless but players are owed a duty of care. The AFL will probably sweep this under the carpet.

not only that, but sooky scott spent half his press conference whinging about the sub rule.. why? you had an obviously injured player, then refused to sub them. that's exactly what the rule is for.

 

[240volt]

There's a not so subtle line between playing through pain and playing with an obviously broken limb that any normal person would be going straight to an ED with. It was a very bad look for the game.

Blind Freddie could see he was fk’d.
He should have been taken from the ground straight away.
Can’t understand WTF Geelong was thinking at the time.

 

[theouthouse]

Blind Freddie could see he was fk’d.
He should have been taken from the ground straight away.
Can’t understand WTF Geelong was thinking at the time.

Eh **** Geelong. Game really went to shit for them when they subbed off Stanley instead of Cameron.

 

[Portology]

No lessons here for the supporters on this board who are DOOMERS on the squad.

^^^move to "Chasing Stability" thread

 

[Byrons Firen]

Eh **** Geelong. Game really went to shit for them when they subbed off Stanley instead of Cameron.

Yep then the players put on this mad monday 'performance' far ken 'ell

Bailey Smith goes too far on Mad Monday: See post he quickly deleted

The Geelong Cats arrived to drown their sorrows after their devastating grand final defeat on Saturday, with Smith taking a nasty swipe at a journalist who criticised him.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Doctor Feel]

I don't think any of those needed deleting really. Shitty posts? Absolutely, worthy of outrange? Nah.

 

[Lefti93]

I get real uneasy looking at that catman. He's all sorts of weird.

 

[Janey]

I don't think any of those needed deleting really. Shitty posts? Absolutely, worthy of outrange? Nah.

Very poor taste, tacky, but I can’t say I was outraged. I wouldn’t be too impressed if any of our guys posted them though.