Golf Golf technique

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I've often thought that when I'm playing well, a caddy would help me lose those stupid decisions that cost me shots. One of my biggest issues when playing well is over confidence. This obviously leads to me trying shots that I really shouldn't. No doubt a caddy would help. I think when I play poorly, a caddy wouldn't make too much difference. To lay up or not is irrelevant if you can't hit the fairway. Maybe some gren reading would help, but not too much in general play IMO.

Wouldn't want one. I don't need to add another step(telling the caddy to get lost) to my pre-shot routine before I go for my hero shot.

When I look back at my rounds, I invariably have a few instances where a smarter approach would have helped - usually me refusing to take my medicine. A classic dickhead move of mine is compounding a poor drive with the decision to have a crack at getting to(and holding) the green with lumber. When the smart play would have been a 6 iron lay up.

Then again, it's winter. The greens are soft. My 3 wood will hold. Remember the time I hit that shot?

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

109 clubhead speed is moving it, but my guess is that might be a misread. 173 ball speed gives a smash factor of 1.58, which is pretty close to impossible?

I might be posting this because you made me hate your kid.

sorry club head speed was 116

he hit another 263m, 117mph club and 169 ball speed...i hate him as well!

My old rapsodo LM doesn't have smash but it's a pretty simple equation I think.

Think max smash is 1.5 for driver

 

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sorry club head speed was 116

he hit another 263m, 117mph club and 169 ball speed...i hate him as well!

My old rapsodo LM doesn't have smash but it's a pretty simple equation I think.

Think max smash is 1.5 for driver

That makes it worse! I think I hate his dad now too.

Smash F = ball speed/club speed

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

That makes it worse! I think I hate his dad now too.

Smash F = ball speed/club speed

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Makes it better...1.491

 

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Makes it better...1.491

It's a bit(a lot) beyond my ability to understand, but that or 1.5 is about the practical maximum.

Those are really really good numbers - do you know that the spin rate was?

Take a look at what the pros do. The little fk head is doing ok

Golf Stat and Records | PGA TOUR

PGA TOUR Stats

www.pgatour.com

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

It's a bit(a lot) beyond my ability to understand, but that or 1.5 is about the practical maximum.

Those are really really good numbers - do you know that the spin rate was?

Take a look at what the pros do. The little fk head is doing ok

Golf Stat and Records | PGA TOUR

PGA TOUR Stats

www.pgatour.com

No spin rate on that launch monitor unfortunately. In my net at home.

I was explaining to him that they would be getting everything out of so many areas (ground forces etc.) that 1% improvement in all those areas would get more speed and it would be very consistent instead of being an outlier.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Found the best swing.

 

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No spin rate on that launch monitor unfortunately. In my net at home.

I was explaining to him that they would be getting everything out of so many areas (ground forces etc.) that 1% improvement in all those areas would get more speed and it would be very consistent instead of being an outlier.

They are also aiming at pretty tight landing areas under the pressure of competition, etc etc

Regardless, I don't think it would be completely unreasonable for you to sell up everything and put it all on him having a professional golf career. Speed is all the go these days. All the big teaching pros are saying that for kids, just get their speed up. Speed is all that matters. The rest can be taught.

 

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Found the best swing.

That looks great - no nonsense, pretty simple technique. He looks old for 12.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

That looks great - no nonsense, pretty simple technique. He looks old for 12.

lol not 12...

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

They are also aiming at pretty tight landing areas under the pressure of competition, etc etc

Regardless, I don't think it would be completely unreasonable for you to sell up everything and put it all on him having a professional golf career. Speed is all the go these days. All the big teaching pros are saying that for kids, just get their speed up. Speed is all that matters. The rest can be taught.

Unfortunately he was a late starter with sport (adhd kid). Very good at basketball, footy. black belt in taekwondo. Very fast and explosive (quick twitch muscles) and incredibly strong for 63kg. Missed the boat making it a profession. But he has a bit of an in in the industry so will be interesting to see where it takes him.

 

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I still love this lunatic on so many levels. His instructional videos are possibly the worst on the internet. And they were the worst when he was selling them on videotape. The one thing he leaves out is that if you wanna chip like Phil, your hand eye coordination needs to be ridiculous.

Will try tomorrow

 

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Been hitting it further lately at the range, but also found a tendency to hook the ball, good ones are a draw, bad ones are a hook or snap hook.

Think I'm either coming over the top or closing the clubface too much as I turn it over or a combination of both.

Grip isn't too strong so I dont think it's that.

 

[Bicco]

View attachment 2394409
6 months ago I took this footage of me.
Ever since I've looked to be more upright and played terribly. I'm going back to what God gave me. An angular, question mark type stance.
In the video I hit a 7i 148m and I've been trying to change ever since. What's wrong with me?
I'm pretty sure I putt like Palmer, but I'm to scared to film myself.
The point is I'm backing what works. No matter how ugly.

 

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View attachment 2394409
6 months ago I took this footage of me.
Ever since I've looked to be more upright and played terribly. I'm going back to what God gave me. An angular, question mark type stance.
In the video I hit a 7i 148m and I've been trying to change ever since. What's wrong with me?
I'm pretty sure I putt like Palmer, but I'm to scared to film myself.
The point is I'm backing what works. No matter how ugly.

No video??

 

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No video??

Bugger, I'll try a screen shot.

 

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View attachment 2394409
6 months ago I took this footage of me.
Ever since I've looked to be more upright and played terribly. I'm going back to what God gave me. An angular, question mark type stance.
In the video I hit a 7i 148m and I've been trying to change ever since. What's wrong with me?
I'm pretty sure I putt like Palmer, but I'm to scared to film myself.
The point is I'm backing what works. No matter how ugly.

It's the old play golf not golf swing.

5 strokes is 5 strokes on the course regardless of how it happens.

But I fight the same urge, even when things are going well I'm always finding some random tip or feeling and tinkering with things, which often messes me up and takes a full range session or two to find a reasonable swing again.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Fine tune lesson done.

Stand taller at address and hands up a bit more like Bryson.
Bit more weight on my lead side to help getting through to left side. This actually is quite difficult for me as it put more pressure though my my cooked left ankle/foot and I might not pivot much because of the pain.
Do not watch club head during takeaway...very bad habit which I find hard to break. But really on plane because of it but ball striking not as good as eyes have to find ball during swing. Stare at letter or dimple on ball very hard.
More shaft lean and turn hips (I am lazy at this) at impact.

Lots of good other things in swing though.

 

[Pres]

More shaft lean and turn hips (I am lazy at this) at impact.

I'm shocking at this as well if it's any consolation

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

I'm shocking at this as well if it's any consolation

Lesson didn't help. 16 over today about par for the course for me.

 

[Bicco]

Fine tune lesson done.

Stand taller at address and hands up a bit more like Bryson.
Bit more weight on my lead side to help getting through to left side. This actually is quite difficult for me as it put more pressure though my my cooked left ankle/foot and I might not pivot much because of the pain.
Do not watch club head during takeaway...very bad habit which I find hard to break. But really on plane because of it but ball striking not as good as eyes have to find ball during swing. Stare at letter or dimple on ball very hard.
More shaft lean and turn hips (I am lazy at this) at impact.

Lots of good other things in swing though.

I'm, like, exactly opposite to this position. It's what I was trying to touch on earlier. I look much more like Keagan Bradley over the ball, very angular. And I try to keep my hands within my peripheral vision through my backswing. For a few months I tried standing taller, higher hands etc. And played like garbage. Went back to 'my' swing and decided to just accept that that's my way of swinging. As ugly and untrendy as it is. 9 holes on Tuesday I hit 6 GIR and with the breeze flogged a tee shot 260m+. I actually have my own theories on sports coaches being 'fashionable '. Player X comes along and dominates and every coach thinks that's now the way to do it. Putting is a great example. Nicklaus is the greatest player of all time and yet NOBODY putts the way he did. On the golf swing, there are many different swings for different players sizes and abilities, but all great players, at certain points in the swing, are in very similar if not identical positions. And then some not. Bubba Watson's hands never went behind him. I think coaches should spend one lesson on this, explaining the swing rather than teaching it. From there we can understand why the ball does what it does and we can develop own swing which comes more naturally to us.

 

[Pres]

Lesson didn't help. 16 over today about par for the course for me.

Give it time mate. No quick fixes available in our great sport.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

I'm, like, exactly opposite to this position. It's what I was trying to touch on earlier. I look much more like Keagan Bradley over the ball, very angular. And I try to keep my hands within my peripheral vision through my backswing. For a few months I tried standing taller, higher hands etc. And played like garbage. Went back to 'my' swing and decided to just accept that that's my way of swinging. As ugly and untrendy as it is. 9 holes on Tuesday I hit 6 GIR and with the breeze flogged a tee shot 260m+. I actually have my own theories on sports coaches being 'fashionable '. Player X comes along and dominates and every coach thinks that's now the way to do it. Putting is a great example. Nicklaus is the greatest player of all time and yet NOBODY putts the way he did. On the golf swing, there are many different swings for different players sizes and abilities, but all great players, at certain points in the swing, are in very similar if not identical positions. And then some not. Bubba Watson's hands never went behind him. I think coaches should spend one lesson on this, explaining the swing rather than teaching it. From there we can understand why the ball does what it does and we can develop own swing which comes more naturally to us.

The biggest issue for me is my declining strength/mobility. I mowed lawns for a living for the last 35 years and am approaching pushing the dam thing twice around our planet. On top of that played heaps of golf, footy, basketball and high level table tennis/coaching and just walking around living. And I am worn out and do not move like I used to. I take strong anti inflammatory tablets before I play...I generally play mid week and it is after working (6 to 8 lawns mowed before) which is not ideal. Both feet are cooked with nerve damage and planar fasciitis in my right. Legs ache all night after work or playing.

When I practice the ball does not always ping off the face like it used to each and every hit. Now I have to look at a spot forward of the ball to try to hit so I haven't wasted power too early. I seem to strike it better if I do this but when I was younger never had to do this. If I just look at the ball I wont get forward good enough each time and inconsistent strikes come in. It is frustrating as the good ones are still very good.

Driver has always been an issue as adrenaline pours through me (grips too tight) and never been accurate with it.

Anyway we will get working on things and try to get the most out of what I have got before I lose it forever!

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

My lad hit a couple at the range into the 180s ball speed. Sadly their is no light weight division in longest drive comps. 5 8 and 61kg lmao.