Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025 - Part 2

[Danger in Texas]

Pick 4 is overs for a midfielder of Sharp's Ilk even if a club was stupid enough to give up pick 4 for what could very well be 2 late 1st round picks Sharp is not a Finn Callaghan type for example who is much more in the style we should be looking to draft with a top end pick. I don't ever see Sharp as being a game breaker personally, a good inside leaning mid is where I see him.

Our midfield lacks a player like him so I’d be happy to trade up for him a bit, but the ceiling of a few others are higher. Cumming being one of them, for instance

 

[Slim258]

Pick 4 is overs for a midfielder of Sharp's Ilk even if a club was stupid enough to give up pick 4 for what could very well be 2 late 1st round picks.

Sharp is not a Finn Callaghan type for example who is much more in the style we should be looking to draft with a top end pick. I don't ever see Sharp as being a game breaker personally, a good inside leaning mid is where I see him.

Is there a Callaghan in this draft?

 

[1970crow]

I agree. That's why there are stuff in the contracts to deal with this. I'm just curious as to just what power Melbourne still have. As you said, they have been amateur.

Melbourne have all the power, nothing has changed. If they’re not satisfied with the trade value offered, he remains contracted to them. Unless you want to post the ‘stuff’ in the contract you think lessens their rights.

 

[feenix67]

You’ve got to be kidding, I didn’t think you were this stupid. Allowing a player to consider other clubs will not open up any out opportunities for the Petracca. It is not an approval to he released from the contract, there is no basis for anyone to consider it would have any impact on Melbourne maintaining full contractual rights over the player. As if a club would actively and publicly torpedo the strength of their contractual rights which is tied to the trade value of the player.

I love reading people with zero idea pontificating as if they were KCs.

Yeah, I think you missed the part where the premise was on the basis of a contract breach by the club (ie Melbourne's mishandling of Petracca's medical issue).

Dont take your hangover out on me, old mate.

 

[CrowToon]

Getting real worried about Clarry and if he nominates elsewhere, what else are we doing this period?
Pick 14 will do nothing.
If we can’t get any A grader in the trade period, surely pick 14 with F1 for Richmond pick 3 to obtain Sharp?

That'd get Richmonds list team sacked en masse I would've thought

 

[steve9798]

Our midfield lacks a player like him so I’d be happy to trade up for him a bit, but the ceiling of a few others are higher. Cumming being one of them, for instance

If we were lucky enough to draft Cumming he will spend the majority of the year playing SANFL.

Draper can show him the ropes and how to mange the mandatory 2 year SANFL apprenticeship.

Bitter.

 

[Danger in Texas]

If we were lucky enough to draft Cumming he will spend the majority of the year playing SANFL.

Draper can show him the ropes and how to mange the mandatory 2 year SANFL apprenticeship.

Bitter.

And that’s exactly why we need to get someone proven

 

[BunjiMac]

Nick's: This is a family, we prioritise others, we are about friendships that endure past football and into our everyday lives. We learn to become a better person, team mate and football side. We are always learning and evolving. Feedback is crucial

Hardwick: We will win a premiership in the next few years, I've done it before and I know exactly what needs to done. We prioritise winning football games over everything else. Premierships will define my success and the success of the players and club. Everything else is irrelevant.

 

[weekend at bernies]

If we were lucky enough to draft Cumming he will spend the majority of the year playing SANFL.

Draper can show him the ropes and how to mange the mandatory 2 year SANFL apprenticeship.

Bitter.

with the occasional stint in the fwd pocket.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

I had to google “Dua Lipa”
I’m so in the dark

38 minutes later, how many times have you googled her now?

 

[BunjiMac]

Pick 4 is overs for a midfielder of Sharp's Ilk even if a club was stupid enough to give up pick 4 for what could very well be 2 late 1st round picks.

Sharp is not a Finn Callaghan type for example who is much more in the style we should be looking to draft with a top end pick. I don't ever see Sharp as being a game breaker personally, a good inside leaning mid is where I see him.

Sounds like Jackson Hately

 

[Mutineer]

Our midfield lacks a player like him so I’d be happy to trade up for him a bit, but the ceiling of a few others are higher. Cumming being one of them, for instance

In Sharp's case West Coast are a very real chance of taking him early to get a young player in to take some pressure off Harley Reid over the next decade or so.

I just don't see two possible later 1st round picks turning Richmond's head unless they are prepared to take a big gamble on Adelaide falling down the ladder big time in 2026.

 

[Syd Crow]

Yeah, but only because you know i have a better package to offer.

Get a room you guys!

 

[1970crow]

I think our messaging re Petracca is more to do with publicly broadcasting that we are prepared to walk away

Ie Melbourne can't ask for anything ridiculous

The reality is, as mentioned much earlier, Petracca was never being firesaled and they will not let him go unless they’re happy with what’s being offered. And everyone already, including Melbourne FC, knows we’re prepared to walk away if what we think they’re asking for is too much.

I think the reason we went public is because confidence has dropped. The stupidity is that prior to the public outing of this, we should have had a decent idea of the price required. So perhaps Suns have blown us out of the water with what they’ll pay and Petracca’s 50:50 call has been made for him because Melbourne have said it’s Suns or is, we’re not accepting Adelaide’s offer.

I hope it’s Suns, purely to see what they pay. If not us that is.

 

[Danger in Texas]

In Sharp's case West Coast are a very real chance of taking him early to get a young player in to take some pressure off Harley Reid over the next decade or so.

I just don't see two possible later 1st round picks turning Richmond's head unless they are prepared to take a big gamble on Adelaide falling down the ladder big time in 2026.

WC seem set on Duursma and CDT, from what I’ve heard, but Sharp would fit in well there

Yeah I don’t see that being a realistic possibility either

 

[1970crow]

It will be interesting but will be hard from an optics point of view to be dealing Oliver for virtually nothing then hold out for a kings ransom for Petracca. Both got multiple years on big money still and playing pretty well considering the sides form. Petracca a bit older but doesn’t have the baggage, but in reality both are absolute A grade stars at their best and are on similar deals.

Doesn’t seem hard from an optics point of view, seems perfectly sensible to anyone that follows the league as a whole.

 

[fossilllCrow]

So who’s are sneaky target now?

 

[Stripple]

As in they are not paying for tracs contract outside of Melbourne - or not paying a cent unless it's GC?

 

[LoBu]

To get your hands on their pick 4, it going to take more than pick 14 and our F1. We would really have to push the boat out and that might be including a player too like Jordan Butts (who I don't want to lose) and maybe get a future pick back along with 4.

I just don't think we will try to get up to pick 4, and if we do a lot of things have not gone our way.

 

[DJ75]

Not at all. There is obviously a fair and reasonable price for Petracca

I actually think Reid is quite a good operator in trades, and I don't think he would have paid massive overs for him.

I think the most likely situation is that we (and Reid) knew the asking price ahead of time, were comfortable enough with it to progress the negotiations to the point of an in-person meeting, but were ultimately pitching our club against Gold Coast and it was up to Petracca to make the decision.

Petracca then made a decision that he wanted to play for Gold Coast. We did not pull out of the race, we were in it up until the last minute, and the decision didn't go our way.

The reporting that we "pulled out" is purely to save face and at best might be a technicality knowing beforehand we weren't going to win his signature

I would normally agree - if it was coming from Rowie etc
That the Vic media who love nothing more than to give it to us are saying this makes it a little more believable.

I suspect that it was probably a case of Petracca being ok with either and Melbourne being clear what we would offer as a trade wouldn't be enough. It was probably us walking away after being blown out by Gold Coasts offer.

 

[Combathorse]

So did we walk away or did Trac choose the GC first? The reporting makes little sense

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If true .... #7 and full salary take-on, is a good deal for MELB .....if GC also lose Humphrey & Flanders, I'm not sure if GC are in front on the deal

I rate Humphrey higher than Petracca

 

[Betts are off]

Pick 4 is overs for a midfielder of Sharp's Ilk even if a club was stupid enough to give up pick 4 for what could very well be 2 late 1st round picks.

Sharp is not a Finn Callaghan type for example who is much more in the style we should be looking to draft with a top end pick. I don't ever see Sharp as being a game breaker personally, a good inside leaning mid is where I see him.

Ok so its not just me then. I see a very good ball winner, but not a real game winner.

He looked like a bull at the carnival, but I have a feeling when the bodies get a lot bigger at the next level, then Dyson will not be anywhere near as dominant. Particularly in his first few seasons.

 

[1970crow]

Oliver has gone overseas, so how does a club actually do any due diligence on him? Medical, interview etc?

They’d have connections that could do a medical and interviews are easy. The question is whether he’s interested, he’s just been told he can earn his full whack and start getting lapped in time trials and cruise around in the 2s. As long as he turns up to all the sessions, he’ll be meeting his contract obligations. But they’ll be after him for off-field triggers, but we saw how JUH maintained full pay last year despite Dogs wanting to terminate.

This is one is very interesting.

 

[Mutineer]

WC seem set on Duursma and CDT, from what I’ve heard, but Sharp would fit in well there

Yeah I don’t see that being a realistic possibility either

Duursma isn't going to be playing midfield anytime soon if the Eagles are putting his long term development as a priority. Sharp will likely slot into their midfield year one, far more midfield advanced both physically and experience wise than Duursma IMO.