List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

[Ruben Grubarb]

We don't need the guy at 2, there's a blanket from 3-10, one of the guys we want will likely slide past 2 into the blanket but no guarantee the other of the 2 we are targeting makes it to 13.

That's not how clubs work. They do diligence to nth degree and have a ranked list.

 

[txbyhull]

Great work as always.
The rise of Thredgold is impressive - no one was talking about him a few months ago but after blanketing Mitch Marsh and having a great combine he's understandably rocketed into the 1st round.

An incredibly exciting prospect, being in the relative top percentile of the 20m and both verticals to his peers has me giddy, especially if he measures in as a grower (currently 194cm). If he can put on an extra inch or two I think a team has picked up a handy KPD player at worst and a first name on the white board if all goes well

 

[EagleMan87]

AFL Draft 2025: Bolters, sliders in post-combine power rankings

With the AFL Draft combine wrapped up and more intel for clubs to go by, ESPN releases its October power rankings featuring the top 40 junior prospects from around the country in 2025.

www.espn.com.au

Sharp up to 3, Taylor 4 in the open pool. Cumming 7 and ran a 2.971 20m.

16. Jacob Farrow

West Perth/Western Australia

DEF/MID, 188cm

National Championships: 4 games, 19 disposals, 4.8 marks

WAFL Colts: 9 games, 24.7 disposals, 5.4 marks

There's a massive ceiling in WA's Farrow, a smooth halfback with the frame and contested skills to one day transition into a dynamic on-baller

 

[Jootube]

He won the best and fearest for Sandringham in half a season.

Butcher you say.

Dane swan
Priddis
Oliver
Gaff

Hugh mccluggage is 470th for kicking efficiency
Dangerfield 531
Bailey smith 549
Liam Ryan 609
Jack viney 578
Chad warner 577

Not to rain on your parade, but goal kicking mids are unfairly penalised with kicking efficiency.
Every behind is considered an ineffective kick, but if Worpel kicks it 40m inside fifty to no one, its considered effective.

Sometimes the eye test is a better judge of foot skills than the number IMO.

Also, if you're predominantly an outside runner I damn well hope you can use the ball well.

Maybe you're right and he should be rated a little higher, but his weaknesses are clearly reflected in his ranking.

 

[txbyhull]

Not to rain on your parade, but goal kicking mids are unfairly penalised with kicking efficiency.
Every behind is considered an ineffective kick, but if Worpel kicks it 40m inside fifty to no one, its considered effective.

Sometimes the eye test is a better judge of foot skills than the number IMO.

Also, if you're predominantly an outside runner I damn well hope you can use the ball well.

Maybe you're right and he should be rated a little higher, but his weaknesses are clearly reflected in his ranking.

I think Dalton has the issue of not quite fitting a position at AFL level. He’s not the modern wing size of those at afl level with big tanks, but comparing his ball use to someone like Gulden of a similar frame is like a toddler is given the footy. He’s not got the ball use either to fit as an outside midfielder just yet at AFL level. A lot of questions here. But he can definitely rack it up and bust a gut running that’s for sure. He’ll get drafted I feel late second round by a good team that has the time and patience to work his body and ball use up to the level, like a GWS. In the same way that Barker will likely get drafted by someone that doesn’t need him to play in the first year or two (for different reasons but similar outcome)

 

[WCE777]

Last ranking of the season here.

1. Find the ranking on the far left, change since the last one (mid CTL and WAFL Colts finals campaigns).
2. Name of the talent coloured with the tier key on the far right, followed by the previous tier ranking for the player.
There will be discrepencies in this due to adding tiers since the last time, so if ranking changes and tier changes look odd when examined together then that is why!
3. Bust or Boom ratings as a gradient of Red to White. Read this as my confidence that a player underperforms / overperforms their tier.

For example, Cooper Duff-Tytler is ranked as pretty confident that he is only very good rather than elite, and a little be confident that he may be a future A Grader. Compared to Dan Annable above him, who I'm fairly certain will be an A Grader, and a little bit of me feels that he may be a future superstar.

2 dark reds next to each other can be read as low floor and high ceiling, light and dark can be read as high floor high ceiling, and dark and light can be read as low floor low ceiling. All relative to their tier. A dark red bust does not mean CDT will be a nobody, just that he might only be very good rather than elite.

Anyways, enjoy! If any mod wants this posted elsewhere just let me know and I'll do it when I wake up, or just move the post

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WOW
That's a massive amount of work you have put in there and love the ratings, well done.

 

[txbyhull]

WOW
That's a massive amount of work you have put in there and love the ratings, well done.

Thanks mate I appreciate that. It’s a combination of being an absolute dork and having **** all to do at work

 

[WCE777]

AFL Draft 2025: Bolters, sliders in post-combine power rankings

With the AFL Draft combine wrapped up and more intel for clubs to go by, ESPN releases its October power rankings featuring the top 40 junior prospects from around the country in 2025.

www.espn.com.au

Sharp up to 3, Taylor 4 in the open pool. Cumming 7 and ran a 2.971 20m.

Good testing with a shoulder injury and not back to full ftness.
He just keeps impressing!!

 

[mattyc75]

Curtin not in that top 40. Would be a good get late in the draft. Has some afl traits.

Im really hoping we get him. Once he gets into the system I think he'll be a long term player

 

[CountryLad]

Posted this in the other thread that’s moving at light speed. It’s an interesting comparison.


Darcy Jones 2.9sec 20m
7.7 sec agility
Pick 21

Lance Collard 2.9sec 20m
8.15 sec agility
Pick 28

Tyler Williams 2.8 sec 20m
7.8 sec Agility
Pick ?

 

[mattyc75]

Assuming we keep pick 13 and we pick up 2 mids beforehand is Farrow the best option and are we hoping he doesn't stay a defender and transitions to the midfield/wing?
Is there a better option for wing out there at that pick?
Personally i think before injury barker was looking top 10 easily, and we could reach or trade back even to take him which might seem counter productive but may net us a decent pick next year too

 

[eaglevision]

Assuming we keep pick 13 and we pick up 2 mids beforehand is Farrow the best option and are we hoping he doesn't stay a defender and transitions to the midfield/wing?
Is there a better option for wing out there at that pick?
Personally i think before injury barker was looking top 10 easily, and we could reach or trade back even to take him which might seem counter productive but may net us a decent pick next year too

Farrow is the last of a group of five I have ranked from 9-13 in the third teir of talent in the open pool. Duursma, Sharp, CDT, Grlj, Cumming, Robey, X Taylor and Schubert I expect to be gone at that pick. The remainder are Lindsay, Marsh, Dovaston, Greeves and Farrow which obviously represents a number of positional/role options. Farrow is a HBF without midfield potential in my view and would have him ranked last in that group of 5.

I wouldn't touch Greeves, Marsh I'm not sure we need structurally which leaves Lindsay and Dovaston. Lindsay hasn't shown anything to suggest he can play in the midfield but could definitely push to a wing and be an 80m transition player with a lethal left foot.

After his end to the season and combine performance, Oscar Taylor is the player I see potentially bolting up the order ahead of the above.

 

[mattyc75]

Farrow is the last of a group of five I have ranked from 9-13 in the third teir of talent in the open pool. Duursma, Sharp, CDT, Grlj, Cumming, Robey, X Taylor and Schubert I expect to be gone at that pick. The remainder are Lindsay, Marsh, Dovaston, Greeves and Farrow which obviously represents a number of positional/role options. Farrow is a HBF without midfield potential in my view and would have him ranked last in that group of 5.

I wouldn't touch Greeves, Marsh I'm not sure we need structurally which leaves Lindsay and Dovaston. Lindsay hasn't shown anything to suggest he can play in the midfield but could definitely push to a wing and be an 80m transition player with a lethal left foot.

After his end to the season and combine performance, Oscar Taylor is the player I see potentially bolting up the order ahead of the above.

Yeah another HBFer is the last thing we need right now . Dovaston would be nice.
Where do you rate barker?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Farrow is the last of a group of five I have ranked from 9-13 in the third teir of talent in the open pool. Duursma, Sharp, CDT, Grlj, Cumming, Robey, X Taylor and Schubert I expect to be gone at that pick. The remainder are Lindsay, Marsh, Dovaston, Greeves and Farrow which obviously represents a number of positional/role options. Farrow is a HBF without midfield potential in my view and would have him ranked last in that group of 5.

I wouldn't touch Greeves, Marsh I'm not sure we need structurally which leaves Lindsay and Dovaston. Lindsay hasn't shown anything to suggest he can play in the midfield but could definitely push to a wing and be an 80m transition player with a lethal left foot.

After his end to the season and combine performance, Oscar Taylor is the player I see potentially bolting up the order ahead of the above.

If we get Lindsay, we don't need him in the midfield. We just need to be patient until our rise. When you've got a team full of stars and you're winning most contests around the ground, guys like him can slice and dice lines, and transition the ball very quickly.

We just take best available. If it's him, we take him.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Posted this in the other thread that’s moving at light speed. It’s an interesting comparison.


Darcy Jones 2.9sec 20m
7.7 sec agility
Pick 21

Lance Collard 2.9sec 20m
8.15 sec agility
Pick 28

Tyler Williams 2.8 sec 20m
7.8 sec Agility
Pick ?

If the dockers are campaigners on night 2 with pick 23, that's 815 less 10% 730 points.....or picks 37 and 57 to match.

 

[eaglevision]

Yeah another HBFer is the last thing we need right now . Dovaston would be nice.
Where do you rate barker?

Dovaston could play round 1 and would be my preference. If Barker hadn’t ruptured his ACL I’d most likely have him in this group too. Given he’ll miss a year and the 1 in 3 chance of re-injury I’d have him at the top of that next tier along with NHH, O Taylor, Phillipou and Emmett.

 

[eaglevision]

If the dockers are campaigners on night 2 with pick 23, that's 815 less 10% 730 points.....or picks 37 and 57 to match.

There was a comment about Dockers making a bid for Williams, perhaps this is part of the deal that they don’t bid and we leave Whan alone. Same may apply next year.

 

[Keys]

If the dockers are campaigners on night 2 with pick 23, that's 815 less 10% 730 points.....or picks 37 and 57 to match.

Dockers don’t have pick 23 - that was traded to Melbourne for McVee

They do hold pick 19 - around the range for Rodriguez

 

[FKASC]

Hopefully the recruitment team are satisfied with our stock of HBs with Allan, Baker and Starcevich coming in in consecutive seasons, not to mention having guys like Johnston and Grego largely untried

 

[WCEswift]

Hopefully the recruitment team are satisfied with our stock of HBs with Allan, Baker and Starcevich coming in in consecutive seasons, not to mention having guys like Johnston and Grego largely untried

kehn next year too

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

An incredibly exciting prospect, being in the relative top percentile of the 20m and both verticals to his peers has me giddy, especially if he measures in as a grower (currently 194cm). If he can put on an extra inch or two I think a team has picked up a handy KPD player at worst and a first name on the white board if all goes well

Id definitely like an extra inch or two.
Just sayin

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Our pick 2 to the Suns for 7 & 8
Then Suns trade that pick 2 for Melbourne to get Petracca
Melbourne are one of the clubs that really rate CDT
They can have time to develop him so in 3 to 4 years takes over from Max
We wont need to offer pick 13 or 34 as well 2 will be enough

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Our pick 2 to the Suns for 7 & 8
Then Suns trade that pick 2 for Melbourne to get Petracca
Melbourne are one of the clubs that really rate CDT
They can have time to develop him so in 3 to 4 years takes over from Max
We wont need to offer pick 13 or 34 as well 2 will be enough

And maybe if Melbourne are getting CDT they won't have any more interest in Max Heath

 

[Elite Pete]

 

[evans1863]

I don’t really understand why it’s seen as such a risk that AFL players (not specially the Duursma’s) will want to go home to play alongside their brothers?

You move away and make mates as you go. I like my brother, lovely guy and all that, but I never for a second had a burning desire to return to the UK just so I could hover around with him.