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Watch the 1992 grand final and Matera. It's similar in so many ways.
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Which Was The Best Norm Smith Performance?
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Fair enough. Looking at end of season ladder, I forgot how close it was, although your percentage and attack was miles better than anyone else. The Bulldogs and Collingwood weren't far off the mighty WCE defence.
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Ablett by a mile.
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I’d go Dusty 2020, then Ablett 89, then Matera 92.
Outside the strict criteria of Norm Smith winners, for best/most influential quarter in a GF I’ve got Dew Q3 08 just shading Jarman Q4 97.
And as others have basically said, special mention for Brendon Goddard’s overall performance in 09 version 1.
Outside the strict criteria of Norm Smith winners, for best/most influential quarter in a GF I’ve got Dew Q3 08 just shading Jarman Q4 97.
And as others have basically said, special mention for Brendon Goddard’s overall performance in 09 version 1.
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If you were trying to find the best quarter it would almost be an impossible task as there were a lot of good 1st quarters. You would almost have to compare 1st quarter to 1st quarter. For example how would you compare Rioli's Q1 in 2015 vs. Voss's Q4 in 2002.
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Certainly an impossible task and highly subjective. Those are my thoughts (Dew and Jarman) on best quarters in GFs for what it’s worth.
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Gary Ablett, 1989.
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Dew was only 5 minutes. And he blew the game apart.
Just a staggering performance.
Always have fond memories of Matera in the 92 GF. We were playing Footy Sculls and my mate who had Matera was totally wrecked spending most of the afternoon horizontal amongst the weeds in the back yard
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Liberal use of the word superstar there. If Geelong were a superstar team they would have won 2 of them. They weren't, they had 2, maybe 3 superstars, some very good players and some strugglers.
There's actually a lot in that list, that if I were voting, I wouldn't have voted them as being BOG, of the ones that I would, it's hard to put them in order.
1. Ablett Snr 1989 - 9.1 in a losing side, I don't think there's anything else he could have done, except for kick another couple of goals. Tallies of 3, 7, 8 and 9 goals across the series for a record that's never likely to be beaten.
eq 2nd - Luke Hodge 2008, if he didn't play, Hawthorn wouldn't have won.
eq 2nd - Dustin Martin 2020, if he didn't play, Richmond wouldn't have won.
eq 2nd - Peter Matera 1992, if he didn't play, WCE wouldn't have won.
Unfortunately, all of them against Geelong.
I find it hard to rank the rest of these in any particular order, they all have their merits for being above one another.
Jimmy Bartel - 2011 - In a game that was highly skilled in tricky conditions and that was a tight affair until the last quarter, Jimmy was clutch with everything he did on the day. All 3 of his goals were important in either keeping Geelong in touch or putting the final nail in the coffin.
Cyril Rioli - 2015 - he put the Swans to sleep in the first half, then was barely sighted in the 2nd half, but it didn't matter, he did all of his damage early.
Rhys Jones - 1987 - Gave Dermie, a big game performer, one of the biggest floggings you've ever seen.
Bartlett 1980 - 7 goals, in a belting. Unfortunately, I was at the 2nd semi-final massacre when he kicked 8 straight. 21 for the 3 games of the series.
Luke Shuey 2018 - just racked them up and drove them all day.
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Fritsch was robbed, imo.
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Ablett and Matera for me
Madden was dominant in 85 but the Hawks didn't have a recognised ruckman
Madden was dominant in 85 but the Hawks didn't have a recognised ruckman
The two that come to my mind are:
Matera - 92
Petracca - 01
Honourable mentions to Dusty in 20, McLeod in 97 and Black in 03.
Not sure I saw any GF's before 1990 so can't judge earlier performance although have seen highlights of Ablett in 89 which seem pretty special.
Matera - 92
Petracca - 01
Honourable mentions to Dusty in 20, McLeod in 97 and Black in 03.
Not sure I saw any GF's before 1990 so can't judge earlier performance although have seen highlights of Ablett in 89 which seem pretty special.
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Dermie kicked 8 straight out of 14 in a 13 goal belting. He went alright on the day, no other Hawk kicked more than 1.
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Has to be Senior in 89.
That game was the best display of an unstoppable force v an immovable object.
That game was the best display of an unstoppable force v an immovable object.
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I know I'm biased, but Matera was electric in 1992.
5.3 off a wing and single-handedly kept the Eagles in the game when a blowout threatened. Even the behinds that he kicked were highlights that day.
5.3 off a wing and single-handedly kept the Eagles in the game when a blowout threatened. Even the behinds that he kicked were highlights that day.
It was an amazing performance. And it was even more special as it was the Eagles first premiership. Ablett in 89 is at the top for mine and as a Hawk, Hodge in 08.
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Depends on how you slice it. Who hurt the oppo most? Who played the most good footy? Who looked spectacular?
On all counts it's GAS. Sent Dipper to hospital, 9 goals vs the Victorian SOO full back line, some blinding marks and goals.
Been to a dozen Grand finals and never seen anything remotely like it.
Agree Boyd robbed and Kennedy would have been a worthy winner.
The way Brisbane play is very team oriented, despite them having so many guns, they spread opportunities around eg Lohman in 2024 was a chance IIRC.
On all counts it's GAS. Sent Dipper to hospital, 9 goals vs the Victorian SOO full back line, some blinding marks and goals.
Been to a dozen Grand finals and never seen anything remotely like it.
Bailey was great, the inccuracy looked bad? Several Lions plausible winners.
Agree Boyd robbed and Kennedy would have been a worthy winner.
Sometimes it's a cumulative award eg Pendles in 2010 replay, lots af good acts. Sometimes its Bobby Hill, just 6 or 7 golden moments.
The way Brisbane play is very team oriented, despite them having so many guns, they spread opportunities around eg Lohman in 2024 was a chance IIRC.
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Ablett broke Dippers ribs and punctured his lung. His pleural cavity was filling with blood and IIRC he left the G in an ambulance on the siren and went straight to hospital.
One of the toughest players ever.
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It was frustrating as hell but
Lakes 10m 14 intercepts in a 15pt hawks win had a massive impact on the game
Andrews had 9m 11 intercepts in 2025 to give perspective
Lakes 10m 14 intercepts in a 15pt hawks win had a massive impact on the game
Andrews had 9m 11 intercepts in 2025 to give perspective
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It's amusing the way you factored it into Ablett's performance of winning the Smith Medal, that's all. Wasn't having a go.
Ablett - 9 stunning goals, awesome speccy marks, and f***ed up Dipper. 3 votes!
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Sorry, I'm tired after a big day at work (back pay delayed ffs) plus I'm a Collingwood supporter so brain function is low.
Some players play good footy against you, some players **** up your day. Shuey and Sheed played great footy for you in 2018 but Rioli ****ed up our day: not sure how you saw it but he felt very influential, he had a massive footy brain.
Vardy too, helped limit Grundy and went off to do good things too. They hurt us, really turned the game.
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I honestly don't remember Willie too much from 2018, apart from heel-tapping our first goal and do a couple of nice things here and there. Will have to re-watch. Shuey and Sheed were the men, though.
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Loved Brian Lake as a player and was happy he won the NSM, but for me in that game it was Gunston, when everyone else from both sides were choking down hard, Gunston kicked 4.1
