Rumour Bluemour Discussion XLI

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[Bluebag13]

So now we know the deal is official from the swans, is this the deal that we have been underwhelmed by and we will reject?? interesting, because its not a horrible deal, its pretty close i would imagine

 

[Rugged Blue Bagger]

If this is their initial offer still potentially some room for negotiation. See if we can do better but if not that is significantly better than the Geelong deal.

DEAL this is a very good offer IMO

 

[Rugged Blue Bagger]

Sydney has offered a deal to Carlton for Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

.Pick 11, 2026 first rounder, Ollie Florent & Will Hayward

9

Will Hayward

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

9.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

.The Swans want Curnow and a late pick in return.
Tom Morris
@FootyonNine
@9NewsMelb
@traderadio
@1116sen

 

[The Bighouse]

 

[ctwenty1]

Good.

Let them sweat to see if they can sweeten the deal a bit more. But we have the bones of a deal here.

absolutely

But its also what we can do with our and sydney 2025 pick firsts - we take it if we have a willing buyer for those pisck into something we like

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Swap Florent for McDonald and I'll do the deal.

Or trade Florent somewhere else for a 2nd Rounder and I'll do the deal.

Not interested in Florent at all.

 

[Rustica]

take it and run

 

[dangertroy]

I can live with this. Would hope we haggle the late pick (67) out of the deal, but we aren’t going to use it anyway. I did joke that we could have done the deal ago, but Sydney wanted a late pick back…

Charlie, Durdin and F2 for Hayward, florent, Ainsworth, 11 and F1.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

It's a bit meh but at least that's now the worst case scenario

 

[ctwenty1]

If this is their initial offer still potentially some room for negotiation. See if we can do better but if not that is significantly better than the Geelong deal.

id argue thta Pick 11 and hayward make it a better deal by a fair margin, but not an insurmountable margin

 

[Matty411]

At least its out there now. Surprised it doesn't have a third club involved. Two options now.

1. We take it, throw 67 or whatever back and try to do something beyond Buku the last day and a half.

OR

2. We rebuke it, ask for more and lose time/risk getting the same deal.

I'm not super happy with the deal as per my comments - this is the absolute minimum offer we should be looking at.

Big watch.

 

[sparkybagger]

I don't hate it.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

If this is their initial offer still potentially some room for negotiation. See if we can do better but if not that is significantly better than the Geelong deal.

I think it is significantly better than the Geelong deal, but still not acceptable.

Pick #11 is better than Pick #19.
Sydney F126 is better than Geelong F126
Haywood is better than Geelong F127.
+ Florent...

Better on all counts, but still not there.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

That is what we already knew and I'm happy enough with that.

Like I said, we would have plans to combine 10 + 11 to move up and get another pick for bid matching.

F1 required for Walker next year.

A player to help out forward line out.

Another solid player.

Decent enough deal.

 

[Pixelshooter]

I'd sit on it and play hardball...but doesn't take much more to get this over the line IMO. As long as the Swans pay part of Florent's salary.

 

[Dramoth]

Yes and pre Achilles Kemp had a lot of natural spring.
Not sure how long it will take for him to regain it but he does have great hands and judgement also.

It’ll take a few months to regain confidence in his Achilles. I was loving him as a forward. Fast, athletic, good hands, good kick and a great jump. When he went down, I knew it’d be about 15-18 months before he was 100% back.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Thank god that’s out now

 

[The Bighouse]

Swap Florent for McDonald and I'll do the deal.

Or trade Florent somewhere else for a 2nd Rounder and I'll do the deal.

Not interested in Florent at all.

Campbell vs McDonald.

Florent only serves us for a pick our way not the other way around.

Sorry, Swannies. No FF for you.

 

[GT619]

pass

 

[Big Red is back]

I think it is significantly better than the Geelong deal, but still not acceptable.

Pick #11 is better than Pick #19.
Sydney F126 is better than Geelong F126
Haywood is better than Geelong F127.
+ Florent...

Better on all counts, but still not there.

Good deal and silly not to take it. We need youn talent and picks urgently and Curnow is a woeful big game player with bad knees. Well done blues excellent return.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Done.

Take 10 and 11 and go fishing for Humphrey or Rachelle if GC don’t budge.

 

[kingkingston]

Good.

Let them sweat to see if they can sweeten the deal a bit more. But we have the bones of a deal here.

I would take it more seriously if they added the 2027 first-rounder as well

 

[JuddgementDay]

Take it & take it now!
That’s more than fair IMO

 

[Big Red is back]

It's a deal , lock it in Boys, great return.

 

[Gavstar]

This ain’t consistent and he’s now in his latter peak productivity years.

Fact of the matter is he’s never been healthy enough often enough to be consistent, and this year his own attitude has become a factor. He doesn’t try hard enough when things aren’t going his way.

His best being amazing is what we’ll argue this for trade value, but realistically, he’s never been reliable or consistent in a big picture sense.

He has an awful lot of trade value though and the club can capitalise on this for a net gain.

Meanwhile our other Coleman winning KP forward has a history of head knocks and has had challenges with Mental Health (which can be linked).

Lot of eggs to put in the Harry basket, is he happy to be the main man? What's plan B if he has another severe concussion?

This is giving me the Cinderella's!

"If we take some time to think it over, baby
Take some time let me know
If you really wanna go
Don't know what you got 'til it's gone
Don't know what it is I did so wrong
Now I know what I got
Just this song
And it ain't easy to get back
Takes so long"