Recommitted Rowan Marshall [OOC 2027] - Requested Trade to Geelong, didn't get done

[Joffaboy]

*Premiership winning Hoops

Not in 2025 or going forward

 

[Mr Meow]

Don't know just answering you post where you said Geeling will have to offer overs to get Marshall.
Pick 19 ( 26) and a crap 2nd is actually insulting to a player you convinced to nominate your club.
0-2 this,trading period for the Cats, Mackie's time has come and gone it seems.

A 1st and 2nd round pick for a 30 year old B grade ruckman is already overs, but for a contracted player fair enough. 2x first round picks would be madness.

Our list is in good shape. We'll be fine. Drafting players is never an issue for Wells.

 

[FootyLad0]

Ross bailing on the media when they are asking questions lol

 

[FootyLad0]

Not in 2025 or going forward

Heard that a lot!

Let me guess? Cats miss Finals too?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Means **** all finishing 2nd again.

The premiers just got a ruck, a key forward, will replace Starcevich with Doedee and will get a top 5 player again from their academy.

Marshall isn't bridging the gap they've widened in the last 2 weeks.

If they didn't want this years pick then I am happy we moved on. Next year and 2027-28 picks needed to be kept to make plays at Butters or Walsh.

 

[FootyLad0]

No Marshall and no Ivan solderingiron for Geelong, maybe they go for the big balding jew Goldstein

We don't play lumbering rucks

 

[TiAn_]

As a neutral happy this one didn’t happen. Both sides would have been better off making this trade.

 

[Joffaboy]

A 1st and 2nd round pick for a 30 year old B grade ruckman is already overs, but for a contracted player fair enough. 2x first round picks would be madness.

Our list is in good shape. We'll be fine. Drafting players is never an issue for Wells.

2025 Grand Final showed where you were.
Not improving your listvafter a 9 goal GF hiding.
Good luck.

 

[Falchoon]

I think the Merrett and Marshall news is good for the AFL landscape.

ie Bottom 10 teams key contracted players being "whined" and dined by top 4 teams who then don't follow through with equivalent trade value being rebuffed.

Player managers will need to better balance length of contract given the inflation being offered to traded/free agent players.

 

[SainterinSydney]

As a neutral happy this one didn’t happen. Both sides would have been better off making this trade.

Your mob deserves an A+ for their trade period

 

[FootyLad0]

2025 Grand Final showed where you were.
Not improving your listvafter a 9 goal GF hiding.
Good luck.

As opposed to bringing in role players on close to a million a year?

I think we'll back in our strategy.

 

[Mr Meow]

2025 Grand Final showed where you were.
Not improving your listvafter a 9 goal GF hiding.
Good luck.

Good luck actually making a prelim, let alone grand final again for the first time in 16 seasons.

Geelong has stayed contending by not making desperate overpayment for B graders. St Kilda's record speaks for itself.

 

[Saints43]

I mean Cats didn't overpay and Saints keep a guy they want.
Only one who gets hurt here is Marshall, poor bloke.

Seems like he's not the only one.

 

[TiAn_]

Your mob deserves an A+ for their trade period

Standard unhinged Saints nuff

 

[Joffaboy]

Good luck actually making a prelim, let alone grand final again for the first time in 16 seasons.

Geelong has stayed contending by not making desperate overpayment for B graders. St Kilda's record speaks for itself.

ok.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

I think the Merrett and Marshall news is good for the AFL landscape.

ie Bottom 10 teams key contracted players being "whined" and dined by top 4 teams who then don't follow through with equivalent trade value being rebuffed.

Player managers will need to better balance length of contract given the inflation being offered to traded/free agent players.

The deals fell through because this years draft is weak and a lot of '1st rounders ' being offered were late first rounders.
Once Steele got traded, Marshall was staying.
The Aleer deal has more to the story , maybe some info was discovered.
Stkikda will be a much better team with Marshall in it.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Good luck actually making a prelim, let alone grand final again for the first time in 16 seasons.

Geelong has stayed contending by not making desperate overpayment for B graders. St Kilda's record speaks for itself.

Don't meltdown because StKilda didn't hand you another Grand Final appearance.
Justice has been done, Grand Final teams getting all the good players is not good for football.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

We beat them three weeks prior and had the game in the balance for three quarters until they broke away.
Marshall would have been a significant upgrade. It's much more than just stats. It's having an actual big man who can seize those momentum shifts. Only the top rucks give you that.

Like Hawthorn, Geelong do not improve.
Brutal when you consider Cameron & Stewart have one more year of top flight footy left in them.

He was a nice to have. Not a must have.

Can't agree with overpaying.
Glad we held firm.

It is a good day for the AFL competition.
Clubs didn't fold on their contracted players, and at least 3 clubs didn't overpay for talent.

Top rucks don't excite me as a must get. The last 15-20 years is littered with average to B grade rucks winning premierships, including ours.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

2025 Grand Final showed where you were.
Not improving your listvafter a 9 goal GF hiding.
Good luck.

We need midfielders more than we need marshall which is why we wouldn't trade the future 1st. You can only judge that result after next years trade period.

 

[TheOsprey]

As a neutral happy this one didn’t happen. Both sides would have been better off making this trade.

Nah, around pick 25 this year and an F2 from a likely top 4 club is not strengthening us at all in the short term and we have to nail a pick in a shit draft.

Retaining Marshall is a much stronger position.

Happy he stayed.

F1 would have been a better deal. Not short term but more chance of a better player.

But the Cats need to keep that to go hard at Butters next year…..

 

[Enclosed_Animal]

Turns out this board was a really good gauge.

Nobody (except Damien Barrett) ever thought a sh1tty F1 this year was getting it done
Plenty of Cats said 19 and F2 is a high as Geelong would go
Plenty of Saints said F1 was the minimum (and probably still not enough)
Both were right

My question is, if we could all see this, what on Earth was Marshall's management group thinking telling him to go public whith this request? They must have got some indication that one side would give. I am genuinely curious which one

From our end, we have said no all the way along (unless something seriously weighted towards the club turned our heads). Did Geelong give some promise to Marshall they would get it done? If so, genuinely pretty ordinary to get a contracted player to nominate, then wait to the last minute to up the offer from a week ago (barely) and try to 'win' the deal. That leaves no space for further dialogue. If he is contracted either pay up (like we did with Flanders, GC with Trac or Sydney with Curnow) of F off (like Hawthorn with Merrett). The clubs that got deals done for contracted players left plenty of time to discuss offers. None of this wait for a week and offer something at the last second crap. Its heroball stuff trying to 'win' a negotiation, rather than find something that genuinely works for both parties

IMO clubs really need to stop trying to pay a 'fair price' for contracted players. You can either have fair price, or contracted goods. Not both (unless it is busted goods like Oliver of JUH, which Marshall was not)

 

[FootyLad0]

Don't meltdown because StKilda didn't hand you another Grand Final appearance.
Justice has been done, Grand Final teams getting all the good players is not good for football.

Lions just got Draper and Allen, literally got better lol

 

[stfan]

From a St Kilda perspective, I regard this as excellent news. Losing him at unders price would have weakened our Squad. He is worth more kept than lost.

$$$ Marshall's contract was front-end loaded. So his $ cost for the next two years is very low. Quality player who probably is not even now on a mid-tier player wage for the next two seasons.

Versatile. Yes may not be the best Key Forward going around, but is still very useful up forward and with King back only has to be the No2 Banana. Plus he is very effective in being involved in scoring chains.

Plus when not rucking he has also been used floating down back, or just across the middle where he is an excellent marking target, and also can win his own contested ball. Hey has played his career as a key forward and back, and only the latter part of his career has it been mainly ruck. The Paddy years he shared roles with Paddy.

Marshall's marking around the ground is a real asset.

The 5 man bench will make it easier to play two rucks as well.

 

[Falchoon]

The deals fell through because this years draft is weak and a lot of '1st rounders ' being offered were late first rounders.
Once Steele got traded, Marshall was staying.
The Aleer deal has more to the story , maybe some info was discovered.
Stkikda will be a much better team with Marshall in it.

I reckon we would have considered F1 and F2

Putting the final offer as it was through with 5 minutes to go was either a misread or unserious.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Can we have some civility in here?

Saints and Cats (and a Dog) trading barbs over how next year pans out is infantile.
Good luck to the saints, didn't sell out, and we didn't cave. Life moves on.