Premier Lg EPL Matchday 8 - On Stan Sport

[UnitedWarrior93]

This morning was our first win at Anfield in 9 years. It was a surprising win.

Old mate must be forgetting the 7-0 and multiple 5-0 thrashings we’ve had in recent years.

 

[Topkent]

Im more on the line the opportunities an Australian would get. Given the more competitive landscape of the Premier League compared to 25 or 30 years ago, there is a deeper plethora of players from more around the world that want to come to England and its the number 1 destination league. Australians generally have to work that bit harder compared to the Euros and South Americans. With an Expanded World Cup, searching for talent, I believe its just that bit harder compared to the Golden Generation of the Socceroos when they made it in 2006.

Case being in point is the Australians beating Denmark in 2022. I dont rate Denmark as a nation. Where a country like Denmark has an advantage over Australia, is the geography and the fact that it competes under the banner of UEFA.

Australia beat Denmark because of a 1 in a 100 goal from Leckie and a pretty hard working defence. We didn't beat them on talent. On paper the Danish team flogs us and they would beat us 9 times out of 10. I really don't understand what you mean we have to work harder or geography, we aren't producing good enough players for the prem it's really as simple as that

 

[SM]

Do you have a bug up your arse this morning or something?

Not just today. Just seems a very angry individual.

 

[glenferry23]

The Rogers celebration was funny. Gold. Cracking goal from Villa to win it, picked his spot beautifully.

Losing to United at Anfield, wow. Cannot recall the last time Liverpool suffered so many consecutive losses. Many missed chances however, Gakpo in particular. The xg differential would’ve been something. Maguire sure does pop up with some big goals.

 

[SM]

I see Frank really showing what a proper manager can do with that Spurs squad.

 

[unitedhawk2]

We've already gone back to what we were before Roman, a side flirting around the 3rd to 6th spots. Like we were under Bates.

Arsenal, United and Pool are no different from any other team in the league. Rich owners spending a fortune to win stuff.

I was harking back to what I realise is a long bygone era, where money didn't play such a big part in the fortunes of a club.

United, Liverpool and Arsenal will always have large supporter bases that will sustain them through the bad times if and when they ever return. I started following United in 1973 and we were relegated from the (then) Division I in that '73-'74 season. Yet, in the '74-'75 season, United's average home crowds in the (then) Division II were higher than any in Division I that season.

All that being said, I realise we're never going back to those good 'ol days. So, I guess, my point is moot.

 

[RPCB]

The Rogers celebration was funny. Gold. Cracking goal from Villa to win it, picked his spot beautifully.

Losing to United at Anfield, wow. Cannot recall the last time Liverpool suffered so many consecutive losses. Many missed chances however, Gakpo in particular. The xg differential would’ve been something. Maguire sure does pop up with some big goals.

I just asked ChatGPT for shits and giggles, apparently it last happened in November 2014.

 

[Frank Bunn]

The Rogers celebration was funny. Gold. Cracking goal from Villa to win it, picked his spot beautifully.

Great goal. But wasn't it his normal celebration?

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

What's gone wrong with Liverpool? Is Brendan Rogers still manager?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Great goal. But wasn't it his normal celebration?

It is. Done it heaps of times but do it at WHL and it's an ode to Titi.
The type of cringe shit gooners seem to enjoy.

 

[Cruyff14]

It is. Done it heaps of times but do it at WHL and it's an ode to Titi.
The type of cringe shit gooners seem to enjoy.

Love you.

 

[Frank Bunn]

It is. Done it heaps of times but do it at WHL and it's an ode to Titi.
The type of cringe shit gooners seem to enjoy.

I must be missing something. Rogers did his usual "cold" arms celebration. How did that relate to Arsenal?

 

[Bostonian]

That man Welbz again. Aging like a fine wine.

 

[And_ROOS]

Arsenal surely, surely can't bottle the league again. There's not really even a decent 2nd team to contend with this time.

I mean no team has ever finished 2nd four times in a row so we are either winning it or the wheels are completely coming off and the social media pages will have engagement content/rage bait for a while.

 

[Cruyff14]

That man Welbz again. Aging like a fine wine.

If he scores two more goals I believe he matches his scoring output to that of his 20s.

 

[And_ROOS]

I confess I didn't stay up to watch it Live but am looking forward to enjoying the replay on Stan.

Serious question for fans of Liverpool*, a club I respect as much as I dislike, much like Geelong in the AFL: Do you think Slot has ruined a well-oiled machine by buying half-a-team of expensive players he's now trying to fit in - or is it too early for panic to set in?

*I consider Liverpool to be a proper football club, much like United and Arsenal - and very unlike nouveau-riche upstarts like City or Chelsea, who'd go back to being mediocre if and when they lost the owners that bankroll them.

Not a Pool fan here but the football podcasts and shows I listen to have had a few reasons about their season so far, things like that changing players like Trent for Frimpong has had a flow on effect with Salah.
Also that Salahs numbers last year weren't sustainable but that his current drop off was entirely unpredictable.
And that Guehi should have been the priority signing because late last season having a better CB pairing with VVD was the most obvious area for improvement.

Then stuff like Wirtz, Isak, Kerkez are struggling to click in the team and Frimpong had injury niggles.

And while a lot of discussion is about Trent leaving which changes how the team plays quite significantly what is not always mentioned is losing Diaz (EPL: 36 games 13G/7A), Elliott (EPL: 18 games 1G/2A), Nunez (EPL: 30 games 5G/3A) and Tsimikas (EPL: 18 games) meant Liverpool lost a lot of goals and assists but also thats depth which knew the club, the game style, had connections with other players.

As it stands Ekitike will be an upgrade on Nunez, they haven't replaced Diaz's output, Wirtz is poor but is an upgrade on Elliott only because Elliott was injured so much last season and Kerkez is a downgrade currently on Tsimikas.

Basically it comes down to Pool are trying to integrate a lot of new talent who aren't playing to a minimum required level, while also dealing with a new game plan after losing key players at the end of last season, while also dealing with players having form drop offs unexpectedly (which we won't know til end of the season if its a slow start for some, or they dropped off the cliff) and that early season they were outperforming their numbers and masking the issues with late winning goals but now they are performing closer to what their data, xG etc suggests, and they are losing games.

With all that, its only MD8 and having lost 3 games straight in the EPL they are only sitting 4 points back so its not like the teams above them won't drop points.
The issue is they are conceding a lot.
This time last year Liverpool their GD was 15:3 and this year its 14:11. Scoring at a similar rate but just unable to lock down opposite teams. If they don't fix the midfield and defensive issues where teams are cutting through them then they will struggle to finish top 2.

 

[Bostonian]

If he scores two more goals I believe he matches his scoring output to that of his 20s.

Nearing 150 games for us too which is quite remarkable given his injury history prior to joining us.

 

[moomba]

Oh no. A Man United fan doesn't think we're a proper club.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Adebayor
Rosiky
Diaby
Cesc
Reyes
Arteta
Henry
Wiltord
Pires
Vieira
Campbell
Aluminia
Seaman
Overmars
Bergkamp
Arshavin
Ramsey

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I swear PP23 is a bot account.

 

[DBAH0]

This is a real ugly performance so far from us, lucky not to be multiple goals down.

 

[Bradesmaen]

This is a real ugly performance so far from us, lucky not to be multiple goals down.

How long until Nuno gets the sack for ugly, shit football and they bring in Ange for 39 days.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Brentford well on top. Hammers can't defend set pieces and lucky to be only 1-0 down.

 

[DBAH0]

How long until Nuno gets the sack for ugly, shit football and they bring in Ange for 39 days.

If only David Sullivan could sack himself.

But playing Irving and Soucek is a horrible decision and Scarles as a right back and Paqueta up front. Just didn't make any sense really.

 

[glenferry23]

Big let off there, should be 2-0.