List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Kegs15]

Im all for Phillips over Mitchell or whoever.

He has talent, he does the role people want Sharp to do, and hes a good age to slot straight into the side from round 1

Phillips and Dev as additions to our midfield depth would be a great result imo

It's easy to think lolnorf but being behind LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Parker as a contested mid and with them wanting to run Sheezel and McKercher through there I think puts him into context a little bit - those are all good players. It's probably Powell who's been the winnable duel Phillips has lost but Phillips missed a full season with glandular fever and was always going to be behind.

Phillips' third year but second actual season averages (after he came back from glange and before those players above pushed him to a fwd pocket): 18.8D, 4.1TK, 3.9CL

Tom Atkins in his third year (as a 25 year old): 17.1D, 3.4TK, 1.2CL.
Atkins first year playing a fulltime mid as a 27 year old: 18.1D, 6.3TK, 3.1CL.

Feel like yeah Phillips won't be a Brownlow medallist but there's no reason he can't be a player like Atkins who is the exact same height and was also picked up by Geelong at 23 (same age we'd be picking up Phillips).

 

[Wooshaaaa]

It's easy to think lolnorf but being behind LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Parker as a contested mid and with them wanting to run Sheezel and McKercher through there I think puts him into context a little bit - those are all good players. It's probably Powell who's been the winnable duel Phillips has lost but Phillips missed a full season with glandular fever and was always going to be behind.

Phillips' third year but second actual season averages (after he came back from glange and before those players above pushed him to a fwd pocket): 18.8D, 4.1TK, 3.9CL

Tom Atkins in his third year (as a 25 year old): 17.1D, 3.4TK, 1.2CL.
Atkins first year playing a fulltime mid as a 27 year old: 18.1D, 6.3TK, 3.1CL.

Feel like yeah Phillips won't be a Brownlow medallist but there's no reason he can't be a player like Atkins who is the exact same height and was also picked up by Geelong at 23 (same age we'd be picking up Phillips).

Some nice perspective there

 

[stallon]

It's easy to think lolnorf but being behind LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Parker as a contested mid and with them wanting to run Sheezel and McKercher through there I think puts him into context a little bit - those are all good players. It's probably Powell who's been the winnable duel Phillips has lost but Phillips missed a full season with glandular fever and was always going to be behind.

Phillips' third year but second actual season averages (after he came back from glange and before those players above pushed him to a fwd pocket): 18.8D, 4.1TK, 3.9CL

Tom Atkins in his third year (as a 25 year old): 17.1D, 3.4TK, 1.2CL.
Atkins first year playing a fulltime mid as a 27 year old: 18.1D, 6.3TK, 3.1CL.

Feel like yeah Phillips won't be a Brownlow medallist but there's no reason he can't be a player like Atkins who is the exact same height and was also picked up by Geelong at 23 (same age we'd be picking up Phillips).

Phillips if he can get some continuity in a role that allows him to win the ball a bit I expect to be able to fill the extractor/defensive mid that people want Sharp to be.
North used him basically as a full time tagger in the last year or two, hes earnt a spot but as you say hes behind other talented high draft picks for midfield time.

Add Dev as another that is naturally that sort of player too, plus Graham as a more defensive player and that part of our midfield has plenty of depth.

 

[Bacchus]

Im all for Phillips over Mitchell or whoever.

He has talent, he does the role people want Sharp to do, and hes a good age to slot straight into the side from round 1

Phillips and Dev as additions to our midfield depth would be a great result imo

Don’t you think there is a difference in class between Phillips (and Dev) and Sharp?

Dev and Phillips have been shown to be fringe or role players, although I have higher hopes for Dev.

I will be surprised if Sharp doesn’t reach a much higher level.
Phillips and Sharp are not like for like.

 

[stallon]

Don’t you think there is a difference in class between Phillips (and Dev) and Sharp?

Dev and Phillips have been shown to be fringe or role players, although I have higher hopes for Dev.

I will be surprised if Sharp doesn’t reach a much higher level.
Phillips and Sharp are not like for like.

Most clubs just use role players as their defensive mid anyway. Their stars attack with the ball.
Cats have 2 stars in their midfield and as many defensive role players as they can fit as their midfield at a time(like theyll actually run 2-3 tags at a time).
Lions have Dunkley essentially playing a role on an opponents best mid every game, and the rest are balanced mids.
Pies have everyone playing defensive while Daicos does his thing.
Swans 1 defensive mid role player the rest attacking.

1 defensive mid matches what some of the best midfields in the comp are doing, they dont really combine extractor and defensive mid into a single player at all, nobody really does tbh. Dunkley might be able to but he isnt used that way as its not optimal.

We are going to have role players in the side long term, defensive mid is one of the roles I would be happy to have a simple role player fill. Even if half the time they just tag the opponents best mid thats fine, fill the rest of the midfield with better talent and players who can win the ball.

Im happy to roll with Dev/Phillips/Graham for at least 2026 and re-assess at the end of next year

 

[Kegs15]

Phillips if he can get some continuity in a role that allows him to win the ball a bit I expect to be able to fill the extractor/defensive mid that people want Sharp to be.
North used him basically as a full time tagger in the last year or two, hes earnt a spot but as you say hes behind other talented high draft picks for midfield time.

Add Dev as another that is naturally that sort of player too, plus Graham as a more defensive player and that part of our midfield has plenty of depth.

Don’t you think there is a difference in class between Phillips (and Dev) and Sharp?

Dev and Phillips have been shown to be fringe or role players, although I have higher hopes for Dev.

I will be surprised if Sharp doesn’t reach a much higher level.
Phillips and Sharp are not like for like.

I'm a big Sharp fan and yeah stallon while I pretty much agree with what you're saying I do think they're different players.

Sharp I see as a Dunkley. They seem so similar in so many ways its crazy. Bigger, more inspiring and whilst still a midfielder a little more versatile in what he'd be able to be tasked with game-to-game. Touch more class in all aspects.

Also think Dunkley was the type Geelong were seriously missing in that GF - they had the class of Smith and Holmes and the little workhorse in Atkins (as well as the Rolls Royce in Danger though for some reason they didn't actually use him) but I think were missing that all round arm wrestle winner to get them consistently on top. Reading their board after the GF they were crying out for another all rounder.

As I'm typing this have just seen your last post and yeah get what you're saying but I actually think the extractor/defensive mid combination is less about not being optimal and more about there not being that many players who can actually balance it. When Melbourne (and Oliver) were at their best he did that role while Viney did the Atkins stuff. Pies I'd actually disagree with your comment that everyone else plays defensively - I feel De Goey and Sidebottom are certainly not 'grunt work' players and Pendlebury whilst good around the clearances isn't that type of player either. Josh Daicos is more of a wing but certainly offensive also. I'd actually argue they were at their best when they had both Mitchell in-form and Crisp, and now that Mitchell fell off they were a contested mid short.

Damagers in Harley, Hewett, Duursma and extractors/defensively minded mids in Sharp + Phillips seems like a great balance to me, if we do pick up Duursma our damaging mids will all be so offensively-leaning that I think it'd be silly not to try and support that with Sharp types of players.

Also all that being said, whilst I did post about liking Phillips it'd be very presumptuous to bet our midfield strategy on him and Robertson successfully filling that void. If we did pick up Phillips it'd likely be after the ND and honestly wouldn't want us changing our strategy based around him - think we desperately need a player like Sharp and if that ends up meaning one of Phillips or Robertson doesn't end up making it I can live with that.

 

[stallon]

I'm a big Sharp fan and yeah stallon while I pretty much agree with what you're saying I do think they're different players.

Sharp I see as a Dunkley. They seem so similar in so many ways its crazy. Bigger, more inspiring and whilst still a midfielder a little more versatile in what he'd be able to be tasked with game-to-game. Touch more class in all aspects.

Also think Dunkley was the type Geelong were seriously missing in that GF - they had the class of Smith and Holmes and the little workhorse in Atkins (as well as the Rolls Royce in Danger though for some reason they didn't actually use him) but I think were missing that all round arm wrestle winner to get them consistently on top. Reading their board after the GF they were crying out for another all rounder.

I do agree, but Geelongs midfield has worked reasonably well against all but the absolute top midfields this year, and Brisbane have a clear unfair advantage that we shouldnt be aiming to replicate. Its just not feasible.
Geelong probably go too far with defensive mids, swapping one of them out for Bruhn(finger injury huh) would have helped their midfield mix quite a bit I think. I dont thnk thats an argument for or against Sharp at all, just the state of Geelongs midfield in general

As I'm typing this have just seen your last post and yeah get what you're saying but I actually think the extractor/defensive mid combination is less about not being optimal and more about there not being that many players who can actually balance it. When Melbourne (and Oliver) were at their best he did that role while Viney did the Atkins stuff. Pies I'd actually disagree with your comment that everyone else plays defensively - I feel De Goey and Sidebottom are certainly not 'grunt work' players and Pendlebury whilst good around the clearances isn't that type of player either. Josh Daicos is more of a wing but certainly offensive also. I'd actually argue they were at their best when they had both Mitchell in-form and Crisp, and now that Mitchell fell off they were a contested mid short.

The relative lack of interest in Oliver and Steele around the comp says quite a bit to me about what teams value in a midfielder. They dont want less athletic inside mids who can only play inside mid, they want outside players who can compete at stoppages, and then role players to allow those outside players to gain metres.
I didnt count DeGoey as hes been in and out for the last couple of years with injury, and Sidebottom I did forget about , but at the end of the day hes not a pure inside mid extractor either. My claim about Pendlebury was more that his current role is mostly just acting as a big body and positioning rather than going after the ball, hes a defensive mid these days.

The point of that was those teams dont run with a Sharp type pure inside mid extractor

Damagers in Harley, Hewett, Duursma and extractors/defensively minded mids in Sharp + Phillips seems like a great balance to me, if we do pick up Duursma our damaging mids will all be so offensively-leaning that I think it'd be silly not to try and support that with Sharp types of players.

Graham will be playing for us for the next few years, so thats 1 defensive mid rotation locked in. One of Phillips or Dev should be able to squeeze in, or some other player we find who can play slightyl more accountable. They dont need to be a star top 5 pick to do a defensive mid role.
In my ideal scenario(without knowing who we get in the future drafts/trade periods) is Hewett and Robey split forward and midfield time, with Harley, Duursma and Gross to also go through the middle as balanced/attacking mids. A couple of role players doing semi-tagging jobs would complement that well, that midfield doesnt need a Sharp type imo.

Also all that being said, whilst I did post about liking Phillips it'd be very presumptuous to bet our midfield strategy on him and Robertson successfully filling that void. If we did pick up Phillips it'd likely be after the ND and honestly wouldn't want us changing our strategy based around him - think we desperately need a player like Sharp and if that ends up meaning one of Phillips or Robertson doesn't end up making it I can live with that.

As I said, defensive mid is a role players job. Not a job for a star typically.
I wouldnt change my strategy based on Phillips, ive been strong on not wanting Sharp at pick 2 for a while now, its just another argument for my position.

Once again ill clarify, I am ok with Sharp I just dont think hes worth picking at pick 2 when better options exist.
A combo of Robey + Phillips/Dev in the side to me is preferable to Sharp + some other fringe player filling a role at hff, at least for 2026.

 

[Kegs15]

I do agree, but Geelongs midfield has worked reasonably well against all but the absolute top midfields this year, and Brisbane have a clear unfair advantage that we shouldnt be aiming to replicate. Its just not feasible.
Geelong probably go too far with defensive mids, swapping one of them out for Bruhn(finger injury huh) would have helped their midfield mix quite a bit I think. I dont thnk thats an argument for or against Sharp at all, just the state of Geelongs midfield in general

The relative lack of interest in Oliver and Steele around the comp says quite a bit to me about what teams value in a midfielder. They dont want less athletic inside mids who can only play inside mid, they want outside players who can compete at stoppages, and then role players to allow those outside players to gain metres.
I didnt count DeGoey as hes been in and out for the last couple of years with injury, and Sidebottom I did forget about , but at the end of the day hes not a pure inside mid extractor either. My claim about Pendlebury was more that his current role is mostly just acting as a big body and positioning rather than going after the ball, hes a defensive mid these days.

The point of that was those teams dont run with a Sharp type pure inside mid extractor

Graham will be playing for us for the next few years, so thats 1 defensive mid rotation locked in. One of Phillips or Dev should be able to squeeze in, or some other player we find who can play slightyl more accountable. They dont need to be a star top 5 pick to do a defensive mid role.
In my ideal scenario(without knowing who we get in the future drafts/trade periods) is Hewett and Robey split forward and midfield time, with Harley, Duursma and Gross to also go through the middle as balanced/attacking mids. A couple of role players doing semi-tagging jobs would complement that well, that midfield doesnt need a Sharp type imo.

As I said, defensive mid is a role players job. Not a job for a star typically.
I wouldnt change my strategy based on Phillips, ive been strong on not wanting Sharp at pick 2 for a while now, its just another argument for my position.

Once again ill clarify, I am ok with Sharp I just dont think hes worth picking at pick 2 when better options exist.
A combo of Robey + Phillips/Dev in the side to me is preferable to Sharp + some other fringe player filling a role at hff, at least for 2026.

Good post and I do see what you're saying. I guess where I think we might differ is how we see Sharp and how we see roleplaying in the midfield.

Someone like Graham as you've mentioned is the definition of a role player - in there as support for better players around him and that's about it - teams won't actually be too scared about him hurting them himself in any way.

However I don't think an actual contender side ideally wants to be going with roleplaying being all that their starting defensive mid has to offer.

Forgetting Dunkley for a second (who has the most copy and paste bio to Dyson Sharp it's crazy), look at Redden. Yeah he was a defensive mid but within that there was so much he could do outside tackling and being on the floor - if teams wrote him off as defensive he could be the one to receive the taps himself, or be the one to win the clearance, or provide a contested mark on the wing, or rack up 30 if our accumulators had a bad day. He was our player of the finals and runner up BnF in our premiership year which I'd compare to Dunkleys BnF in this year's season. Wasn't quick and his best games ever weren't at the level of Yeo and Shuey but within the inside mid role he had his Swiss army knife of things he could actually do and would hurt teams in big games because they'd rightfully put their efforts into Shuey/Yeo (Harley/Hewett/Duursma).

Yes we can't feasibly replicate Brisbane's advantage but even with all their Rolls Royces they still identified Dunkley and paid a pretty decent haul for him in a trade. You also mention Pendlebury - you're right that he's in there as a big body/positioner these days but if teams ignore him as a role player he'll still even at his age hurt them a lot more than Graham would.

I just think mids who are primarily contested are still valuable having a bit of star power to them, or at least a few strings to their bow which from what I've seen of Sharp I feel like he has.

Lack of interest in Oliver/Steele I don't think says as much about what the competition values as much as it does about where those players are at - Oliver is a meme now and his off field stuff has turned him from a star contested mid to a non-star contested mid but give him the professionalism it sounds like Sharp has and I reckon it'd be a different story, he did win 3 AAs. Steele has been broken down by being the only player at St Kilda doing anything.

In fact I'd argue the balance of good sides at the moment often has a star-level contester and a role player to supplement their attacking mids

Brisbane: Dunkley (star), Berry (role player)
Collingwood: Pendlebury (star but dropping off as of this year), Crisp (played Mitchell too at their peak)
GWS: Tom Green (star), Coniglio (role player these days)
Hawthorn: Newcombe (star), Ward/Worpel (role players)
Geelong: missing that player IMO. Brought in Worpel who yeah isn't a star but clearly they're shoring up their contested options regardless of speed.
Gold Coast: drafted in Petracca so Rowell can be a mega version of that player IMO
Sydney: have so much offensive star power but running with Rowbottom/Jordan has never felt enough
Dogs: Have Libba (star) (and Bont who can do it) but still were keen to invest in Kennedy and give him time
Adelaide: probably the biggest example for this point, great attacking options but come crunch finals time relied only on role players for the grunt stuff and looked weak through the middle as a result.

I honestly do think contested/defensive mids are still super valuable and it's more a matter of finding those who can actually threaten themselves unlike Adelaide's role players, or who aren't entirely glacial like Wines for Port (I see Sharp as quicker than that). If you watch him and see a Wines than fair enough, but for me I see a Dunkley and think that type of player is just as valuable even if they won't win a Brownlow. Can be a role player but still be a gun - I like Graham but would never describe him as a gun and would honestly be stoked if Powell/Robertson turned into a J.Berry or Ward but don't see them being legit guns.

*That being said for all my waffling, I saw ArdentEagle managed to snaffle Sharp in the mock draft at Pick 11 and that would be ****ing elite - I do understand the reservations at pick 2 and if we can successfully play some shenanigans I'm here for it. Just think if we're adding Duursma I'd love a star contested mid to make him, Harley and Hewett better, however we get there.

 

[pantskyle]

Phillips training with us would make sense, we were keen to get him over from a couple of months ago.

 

[NSLK]

Take out his two sub-impacted games in 2025 and his 5.2 clearances per game (across 5 games) is bettered only by Xerri and LDU. Our leader averaged 3.89.

Despite being at the back of the inside-mid queue (a concern) at North (a concern) while some real battlers got games over him (a real concern) regardless of their position - maybe there's more to work with than first concerned me.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Phillips training with us would make sense, we were keen to get him over from a couple of months ago.

Any reason why he hasn't fired at North?
I remember his nab league grand final as a 17 year old was absolute class. Obviously missed his draft year due to covid.

 

[Mr Q]

Sure , but as it is now the club is pretty ****ing awful at member engagement. When you’re dead last the club needs to be better at keeping the fans engaged and emotionally switched on

For most members, the minutiae of every possible draft and trade move is irrelevant. Hell a substantial number of long term members will still just yell out things like "why didn't you get the ball number 28" - despite him playing 130 games for us by now.

The level of engagement that most people want at this time of year is "Reid re-signed", "Bye Allen/Ryan/Chesser", "Welcome Brandon Starcevich" and in a few weeks some new recruits. They might glance at whatever bollocks Woodcock has put on the back of the paper, but that's about the limit.

 

[eaglevision]

Any reason why he hasn't fired at North?
I remember his nab league grand final as a 17 year old was absolute class. Obviously missed his draft year due to coved.

Glandular fever absolutely floored him early in his career. Maybe missed a bit of development and always playing catch up.

 

[pantskyle]

Any reason why he hasn't fired at North?
I remember his nab league grand final as a 17 year old was absolute class. Obviously missed his draft year due to coved.

Not really. Besides the illness which we know can cause serious set backs.

 

[Lia]

I like us having a look at Phillips but he was another one from that COVID draft where really he isn't a typical pick 3.

 

[Elite Pete]

 

[Mop]

For most members, the minutiae of every possible draft and trade move is irrelevant. Hell a substantial number of long term members will still just yell out things like "why didn't you get the ball number 28" - despite him playing 130 games for us by now.

The level of engagement that most people want at this time of year is "Reid re-signed", "Bye Allen/Ryan/Chesser", "Welcome Brandon Starcevich" and in a few weeks some new recruits. They might glance at whatever bollocks Woodcock has put on the back of the paper, but that's about the limit.

Maybe to the casual. I’d argue of our 100,000 members you’d easily find a few hundred interested in the nitty gritty. How many people have posted in this thread alone?

People are engaged in wanting the club to get better, so as such many of us have an interest in the mechanisms and decisions that decide that fate.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Who was it that was saying it would be disrespectful to delist and re-rookie Cripps?

Sydney doing exactly that with Rampe and Lloyd.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

It's easy to think lolnorf but being behind LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Parker as a contested mid and with them wanting to run Sheezel and McKercher through there I think puts him into context a little bit - those are all good players. It's probably Powell who's been the winnable duel Phillips has lost but Phillips missed a full season with glandular fever and was always going to be behind.

Phillips' third year but second actual season averages (after he came back from glange and before those players above pushed him to a fwd pocket): 18.8D, 4.1TK, 3.9CL

Tom Atkins in his third year (as a 25 year old): 17.1D, 3.4TK, 1.2CL.
Atkins first year playing a fulltime mid as a 27 year old: 18.1D, 6.3TK, 3.1CL.

Feel like yeah Phillips won't be a Brownlow medallist but there's no reason he can't be a player like Atkins who is the exact same height and was also picked up by Geelong at 23 (same age we'd be picking up Phillips).

I don't mind Phillips - coming off Glandular is no joke.

Main concern will be his ability to increase his tank. Can he play 80% game time at a high level? Because I don't think we can carry an inside mid for 60% TOG at best.

 

[BSD]

Who was it that was saying it would be disrespectful to delist and re-rookie Cripps?

Sydney doing exactly that with Rampe and Lloyd.

I did. Huge difference Rampe and Lolyd are being consiidered not being in top 25 where Cripps is.
There are worse players on our list to rookie and or delist rather than Cripps. Livingston, Barnett, Cole Bazzo and Johnson just to name a few.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I did. Huge difference Rampe and Lolyd are being consiidered not being in top 25 where Cripps is.

Rampe and Lloyd missed three games between them in 2025. Where are you getting that they’re not being considered best 25?

 

[Mr Q]

Maybe to the casual. I’d argue of our 100,000 members you’d easily find a few hundred interested in the nitty gritty. How many people have posted in this thread alone?

People are engaged in wanting the club to get better, so as such many of us have an interest in the mechanisms and decisions that decide that fate.

Not arguing there are people interested, but it's a tiny minority of the total supporter and even member base. Even your numbers would be <1% - probably not worth the trouble for the club comms team.

Most people are interested in the broad strokes of what's going on, not the day to day minutiae. People in this thread are, shall we say, not normal .

 

[Keys]

Who was it that was saying it would be disrespectful to delist and re-rookie Cripps?

Sydney doing exactly that with Rampe and Lloyd.

Matthew Clarke should be taking notes

This is exactly what we should be doing with Jamie Cripps. I have no issue with him playing on even though i suspect at the end of next year the feeling will be he played one year too many

But to not open an extra main list spot to give us extra draft flexibility feels negligent. I don’t even mind if we don’t use the final pick on draft night but it would sure be nice to have in our back pocket

Having 6 spots would enable to add all of Williams, Banfield and Evans or use a 4th live pick and still have room for Williams and Banfield

With 5 picks we would be unable to match an Evans bid or potentially miss out on one of Williams or Banfield if we use a 4th live pick - there’s some handy players around where pick 34 likely falls

Missing out on Banfield or being reluctant to use a 4th live pick simply because we didn’t want to move Cripps to the rookie list just seems dumb

 

[Spod]

I did. Huge difference Rampe and Lolyd are being consiidered not being in top 25 where Cripps is.
There are worse players on our list to rookie and or delist rather than Cripps. Livingston, Barnett, Cole Bazzo and Johnson just to name a few.

Other factors aside, as I understand it rookies effectively end up being free agents whenever their deals end (I believe without any compo?) so there's a trade off with moving a younger player there that isn't a factor with a veteran like Cripps.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Other factors aside, as I understand it rookies effectively end up being free agents whenever their deals end (I believe without any compo?) so there's a trade off with moving a younger player there that isn't a factor with a veteran like Cripps.

Also much less chance that someone else picks him off (as Gold Coast did with Knobel last year)