Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[tragic]

Strongly disagree. He completely blew 3 consecutive top 10 picks, and blew first rounders in 2018 and 2019 on top of that. We nail them, then it’s maybe a top 4 list. Boyd and Saad were brought in under Austin anyway.

The two are not mutually exclusive

 

[Blue and Silver]

I don't want to be too brash, but I don't really want to trade up, because I don't have a guy that I really want before Dean.

CDT looks good but is a 5 year development prospect. Robey looks exciting, but I sense the bust potential. Sharp doesn't fit our mid mix. X Taylor is another who is the wrong list fit. None of the key forwards should be taken that high.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Trade out to next draft with enough to match Dean, Ison is the best option IMO

 

[ctwenty1]

I don't want to be too brash, but I don't really want to trade up, because I don't have a guy that I really want before Dean.

CDT looks good but is a 5 year development prospect. Robey looks exciting, but I sense the bust potential. Sharp doesn't fit our mid mix. X Taylor is another who is the wrong list fit. None of the key forwards should be taken that high.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Trade out to next draft with enough to match Dean, Ison is the best option IMO

having a third first next year would be ideal

 

[BlueAbroad]

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Answer before the video even goes live Tez, yes he is.

 

[bradfisher14]

I don't want to be too brash, but I don't really want to trade up, because I don't have a guy that I really want before Dean.

CDT looks good but is a 5 year development prospect. Robey looks exciting, but I sense the bust potential. Sharp doesn't fit our mid mix. X Taylor is another who is the wrong list fit. None of the key forwards should be taken that high.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Trade out to next draft with enough to match Dean, Ison is the best option IMO

Agreed. Ideal world for me would be to have a pick between Dean and Ison.

 

[Stamos]

From the Hun

Carlton currently holds picks 9 and 11 but is weighing up trading both selections as it looks to match bids on father-son Harry Dean and Next Generation Academy prospect Jack Ison. The Blues also have next year in mind, where they will need the points to match an expected top-two bid on another father-son prospect in Cody Walker. While any deals might not be done until draft night, West Coast is in the frame to grab pick 9 from Carlton in exchange for picks 13 and 34.
Such a deal would nudge the Eagles a touch higher up the board, while providing Carlton with a few more points for bid-matching purposes this year.

There have also been talks held with Adelaide, which is pondering trading a future first-round pick for Carlton’s pick 11.
It would leave the Crows with two first-round picks this year — at 11 and 16 — as this year’s minor premier’s look to make hay while the sun shines and push for a premiership in coming years.

AFL Phantom Draft: Who every club will pick in the first two rounds of the 2025 draft

 

[Bfevola]

Dont mind the westcoast deal as per HUN. The adelaide one will ensure we wont be taking another pick as we will use 11 for dean and later picks for Ison However will be good for next year.

The Westcoast one will allow us to take another player but not a very good one as after Ison depends where he is bid at we will have 34 and picks on the 40's. But maybe they wont bid on Dean.

Much of a muchness really. But im not experienced in points.

 

[Soapy V]

From the Hun




AFL Phantom Draft: Who every club will pick in the first two rounds of the 2025 draft

Yep. I keep saying it. There is no way we go to draft with 9 & 11

Could easily be Dean and Ison as only picks and use one for a mature KPD

I know we were keen to get up the order but talk is no one is biting

 

[Stamos]

Dont mind the westcoast deal as per HUN. The adelaide one will ensure we wont be taking another pick as we will use 11 for dean and later picks for Ison However will be good for next year.

The Westcoast one will allow us to take another player but not a very good one as after Ison depends where he is bid at we will have 34 and picks on the 40's. But maybe they wont bid on Dean.

Much of a muchness really. But im not experienced in points.

I read it as us doing both deals, ie getting some extra points and a F1.

Those West Coast picks would become 16 + 29. Along with our later 2 picks which should come in to (at least) 38 + 49.

1766 points. Which could match a bid at 4, but then leave us nothing for Ison.

If the bid for Dean comes later, we would have plenty of points, especially if Adelaide throw in a little extra on their trade.

 

[BluesForEternity]

I think these proposed are a win-win. My predictions would be something like:

Trade #1
In: 13, 34
Out: 9

Trade #2
In: F1, 48
Out: 11

Our draft hand thus becomes: 13, 34, 43, 48, 54

This should be just enough to cover Dean and Ison (I think), assuming that neither of them attracts a crazily high bid. We then come out of the draft with Dean, Ison, two spots for rookies (which I'm fine with - they can go to SSP types), and then three first rounders for 2026, with two being spent on Cody.

 

[Bletch]

I read it as us doing both deals, ie getting some extra points and a F1.

Those West Coast picks would become 16 + 29. Along with our later 2 picks which should come in to (at least) 38 + 49.

1766 points. Which could match a bid at 4, but then leave us nothing for Ison.

If the bid for Dean comes later, we would have plenty of points, especially if Adelaide throw in a little extra on their trade.

It would have to be done as a live trade, with a trigger point for the deal(s) to happen.

e.g. No bid on Dean before say 5, then we do the WC deal.

Agree, we'd want more in that Adelaide deal. No way is pick 11 worth their future first by itself. And given we'd have to throw in our F4 to get their F1, that makes it worse. Maybe their 48 and FF2?

i.e. Car 11 + F4 for Ade F1, 48, FF2. Maybe even FF1.

Again would depend on when the Dean bid came in, so this trade wouldn't happen till after that (unless he's still there at 11(14)).

 

[ctwenty1]

I think these proposed are a win-win. My predictions would be something like:

Trade #1
In: 13, 34
Out: 9

Trade #2
In: F1, 48
Out: 11

Our draft hand thus becomes: 13, 34, 43, 48, 54

This should be just enough to cover Dean and Ison (I think), assuming that neither of them attracts a crazily high bid. We then come out of the draft with Dean, Ison, two spots for rookies (which I'm fine with - they can go to SSP types), and then three first rounders for 2026, with two being spent on Cody.

We want more than that with trade number 2 but its getting close

 

[ctwenty1]

It would have to be done as a live trade, with a trigger point for the deal(s) to happen.

e.g. No bid on Dean before say 5, then we do the WC deal.

Agree, we'd want more in that Adelaide deal. No way is pick 11 worth their future first by itself. And given we'd have to throw in our F4 to get their F1, that makes it worse. Maybe their 48 and FF2?

i.e. Car 11 + F4 for Ade F1, 48, FF2. Maybe even FF1.

Again would depend on when the Dean bid came in, so this trade wouldn't happen till after that (unless he's still there at 11(14)).

Arguably WCE are in control of that situation - duursma, then 3 bids on Northern NGAs, then whomever they want with their second pick at 5

Means earliest Dean bid could be from richmond

 

[Stamos]

Arguably WCE are in control of that situation - duursma, then 3 bids on Northern NGAs, then whomever they want with their second pick at 5

Even if they only bid on 2 of the players, it means the highest Dean could be bid on is 5, I think it's unlikely that the Tiges would bid on Dean with their 1st pick.

 

[Stamos]

From the Hun

AFL Phantom Draft: Who every club will pick in the first two rounds of the 2025 draft

Also, can anybody read this for how they go with our bids/picks?

The Phantom Draft doesn't show up on archive.

 

[ctwenty1]

Also, can anybody read this for how they go with our bids/picks?

The Phantom Draft doesn't show up on archive.

its Chris Cavanagh so may be not very diffirent to this from 28 October

2025 AFL Mock Draft | Who will your club target? - Code AFL

Chris Cavanagh and Dan Batten talk through every pick in the first round of their 2025 AFL Mock Draft.

omny.fm

 

[Stamos]

its Chris Cavanagh so may be not very diffirent to this from 28 October

2025 AFL Mock Draft | Who will your club target? - Code AFL

Chris Cavanagh and Dan Batten talk through every pick in the first round of their 2025 AFL Mock Draft.

omny.fm

It's new, and is for Rounds 1 & 2

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think these proposed are a win-win. My predictions would be something like:

Trade #1
In: 13, 34
Out: 9

Trade #2
In: F1, 48
Out: 11

Our draft hand thus becomes: 13, 34, 43, 48, 54

This should be just enough to cover Dean and Ison (I think), assuming that neither of them attracts a crazily high bid. We then come out of the draft with Dean, Ison, two spots for rookies (which I'm fine with - they can go to SSP types), and then three first rounders for 2026, with two being spent on Cody.

I would guess that if we get 13 we also offload it for 2 picks in the 20s from North or Essendon. More points.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Not sure how GC get both academy kids. Isn't the rule you have to match with a pick in the same round? They lose their 2 first rounders matching Uwland. How do they match the next kid with only 2nd/3rd round picks?

I suspect they will need to do some more trading... or not. The AFL will find a loophole for them I'm sure.

 

[ctwenty1]

Not sure how GC get both academy kids. Isn't the rule you have to match with a pick in the same round? They lose their 2 first rounders matching Uwland. How do they match the next kid with only 2nd/3rd round picks?

I suspect they will need to do some more trading... or not. The AFL will find a loophole for them I'm sure.

Nah those changes may be next year, but agree WCE may need to do more trading

 

[katmanblue]

Also, can anybody read this for how they go with our bids/picks?

The Phantom Draft doesn't show up on archive.

According to Perplexity:

Show Herald Sun's full 2025 phantom draft top 30

Here is the full top 30 list from the Herald Sun 2025 phantom AFL draft:

1. Willem Duursma - West Coast (MID/DEF, Gippsland Power/Vic Country, 193cm)
2. Cooper Duff-Tytler - West Coast (RUC, Calder Cannons/Vic Metro, 200cm)
3. Dylan Patterson (Suns Academy) - Gold Coast (DEF, Suns Academy/Allies, 183cm) - bid
4. Zeke Uwland (Suns Academy) - Gold Coast (MID/DEF, Suns Academy/Allies, 178cm) - bid
5. Xavier Taylor - Richmond (DEF, Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro, 191cm)
6. Sam Grlj - Richmond (MID, Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro, 182cm)
7. Dyson Sharp - (details not fully listed)
8. Daniel Annable
9. Josh Lindsay
10. Harry Dean (father-son candidate)
11. Sam Cumming
12. Sullivan Robey
13. Aidan Schubert
14. Oliver Greeves
15. Mitchell Marsh
16. Jacob Farrow
17. Lachy Dovaston
18. Jevan Phillipou
19. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves - Hawthorn (FWD/MID, Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country, 186cm)
20. Oskar Taylor
21. Archie Ludowyke
22. Max King
23. Harley Barker
24. Blake Thredgold
25. Adam Sweid (Essendon NGA) - Calder Cannons/Vic Metro, 175cm - bid
26. Beau Addinsall (Suns Academy) - Gold Coast (MID, Suns Academy/Allies, 180cm) - bid
27. Hawthorn - Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
28. Louis Emmett
29. Lachlan Carmichael
30. Matthew LeRay

This reflects the first round order including Academy and father-son bids that expand the number of picks beyond the traditional 18 teams' first selections. Some players like Patterson, Uwland, Sweid, and Addinsall come from academy systems and have bids matched by their clubs. This phantom draft incorporates current speculative club needs and draft points calculations that influence pick placements. It is subject to change as trades and late developments occur before the official draft event [1][2].

Citations:
[1] AFL Phantom Draft 2025: 27 picks, 9 bids make up a ... https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...s-form-guide-willem-duursma-jasper-chellappah
[2] AFL Draft 2025 | Top 30 Prospects Ranked

 

[marcmurphy3]

Not sure how GC get both academy kids. Isn't the rule you have to match with a pick in the same round? They lose their 2 first rounders matching Uwland. How do they match the next kid with only 2nd/3rd round picks?

I suspect they will need to do some more trading... or not. The AFL will find a loophole for them I'm sure.

Thats not the rule. They only need points and have more then enough. They get both 100%.

 

[ctwenty1]

Thats not the rule. They only need points and have more then enough. They get both 100%.

its the other three they may want that will necissitate GC needing more points

 

[The Bighouse]

Also, can anybody read this for how they go with our bids/picks?

The Phantom Draft doesn't show up on archive.

H.Dean @ #6 matching RFC bid
Ison @ #22 matching Freo bid