Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2025, Part 2

[cats_09]

It feels like what they wanted was to no longer give 50s for protected area and just call stand but what they worded was not that

What's new with the AFL

One example they showed was Atkins kinda involved in the marking contest but instead of standing the mark he opted to run off it and protect the space 5m away - he then impacted what the player wanted to do

Under the new rule, when the umpire yells stand he wouldn't be able to move


It's going to be confusing when there's multiple opposition players involved in a contest and which one is deemed the player to stand - happened in one of our matches against Carlton a year or two back when Cripps stood the mark and McKay was trying to clear out the area but the umpire was telling McKay he had to stand. Problem is that you can't have 2 players standing the mark but the umpire wouldn't let either move and then paid a 50m

I can see this rule being a shit show over the first month

 

[TomsBulgingDisc]

It feels like what they wanted was to no longer give 50s for protected area and just call stand but what they worded was not that

Via their video explainer, the new rule is to promote overlapping play.

Again, it only focuses on 1:1 contests. The Atkins example, he looks to back out of the protected area before he's called to stand so he can cover the overlapping player. The player with the ball then plays on and Atkins doubles back to put pressure on him, effectively covering off two players or creating an opportunity to at least have them second guessing. If that's going to be a 50 going forward, things will be grim.
Probably easy enough to umpire in uncontested situations, but it will be chaos in real time pack situations. Will the standing player be determined by the umpire or the players?

I think it'll lead to more bullshit 50s because nobody will know what's going on in those high pressure contests. Someone is bound to chase an opponent out of the area unaware that the umpire expects them to be the one who stands.

 

[Kitcat]

Via their video explainer, the new rule is to promote overlapping play.

Again, it only focuses on 1:1 contests. The Atkins example, he looks to back out of the protected area before he's called to stand so he can cover the overlapping player. The player with the ball then plays on and Atkins doubles back to put pressure on him, effectively covering off two players or creating an opportunity to at least have them second guessing. If that's going to be a 50 going forward, things will be grim.
Probably easy enough to umpire in uncontested situations, but it will be chaos in real time pack situations. Will the standing player be determined by the umpire or the players?

I think it'll lead to more bullshit 50s because nobody will know what's going on in those high pressure contests. Someone is bound to chase an opponent out of the area unaware that the umpire expects them to be the one who stands.

I think the situation you are worried about exists now and it doesn’t cause a regular problem. Last season, if a Geelong player took a mark with 3 opponents next to him, those opponents decide between them which player will stand on the mark or drop back 5 metres. They wouldn’t all run off leaving the marker to play on.

I wouldn’t think the umpire would have to decide which of the 3 players stand as long as one does. The rule would prevent those 3 players running off and a 4th coming from outside the protected area to stand the mark.

The intention of the rule is to force a defender to stand on the mark to give greater flexibility for the marker to play on and speed up the game.

 

[standupand]

I think the situation you are worried about exists now and it doesn’t cause a regular problem. Last season, if a Geelong player took a mark with 3 opponents next to him, those opponents decide between them which player will stand on the mark or drop back 5 metres. They wouldn’t all run off leaving the marker to play on.

I wouldn’t think the umpire would have to decide which of the 3 players stand as long as one does. The rule would prevent those 3 players running off and a 4th coming from outside the protected area to stand the mark.

The intention of the rule is to force a defender to stand on the mark to give greater flexibility for the marker to play on and speed up the game.

It would be simpler to just say that the nearest player must stand the mark. If the nearest player moves away from the mark before the umpire calls stand or play on, it's 50.

 

[Burtyl78]

How’s the comparison between the kangaroos aflw team and our team from the 50’s winning streak, so offensive

 

[Hinkley29]

How’s the comparison between the kangaroos aflw team and our team from the 50’s winning streak, so offensive

You might disagree with the premise of comparing the 2, but it is hardly offensive.

 

[jim boy]

North still have 104 wins they need to notch up before they catch the Yeppoon Swans. More relevant than comparing with the AFL/VFL record

 

[cats_09]

I know that the following isn't from the AFL, but I'd like to think the league is paying attention to the fall out from this - lets take concussion assessments out of the hands of club doctors and have it as independent doctors that are involved from the start as we don't want to see a situation like this occur


Here's the pre-game/warm up head knock




I've not seen footage of the other 2 knocks to occur during the game, but this was the result:

Storm confirm Eli Katoa is in a stable condition after suffering seizure activity & undergoing surgery.

Reportedly had a brain bleed & surgery was to release fluid & relieve pressure on his brain (via @ScottBaileyAAP). A serious situation & pretty unprecedented from an NRL perspective.

Prognosis & recovery process unclear at this stage - hanging out for continued positive updates & wish Katoa the best.

And here's a discussion with Shaun Johnson who was part of the commentary team that match

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I know that the following isn't from the AFL, but I'd like to think the league is paying attention to the fall out from this - lets take concussion assessments out of the hands of club doctors and have it as independent doctors that are involved from the start as we don't want to see a situation like this occur


Here's the pre-game/warm up head knock




I've not seen footage of the other 2 knocks to occur during the game, but this was the result:





And here's a discussion with Shaun Johnson who was part of the commentary team that match

That's not even a league sanction, that's straight to court for civil damages territory

 

[cats_09]

That's not even a league sanction, that's straight to court for civil damages territory

There's those who are suggesting that's the exact course of action Katoa should be taking

And as the incident is from the weekend, it's obviously very very very early in the recovery process, but there's already those raising doubts the Katoa will ever take to the fieldm- as such raising the question if the Storm would also have a legal case, especially regarding any payout they may be liable in terms of the remainder of Katoa's playing contract

 

[winty]

Hallelujah!!!

 

[BotsMaster]

Carlton as well?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Carlton as well?

God i hope there's no carlton or richmond in prime time.

Suns and GWS are way more watchable but hidden off broadway

 

[And_ROOS]

God i hope there's no carlton or richmond in prime time.

Suns and GWS are way more watchable but hidden off broadway

You will take your Blues/Tiggies slop and you will like it.

Hilariously the only good game these 2 played all season was the game against each other in Rd 1 because Richmond caused the upset of the season.

Anyway can't wait for the first 4 FNF games to be
Blues v Tiges, Bombers v Blues, Pies v Swans and Saints v Brisbane.

 

[cats_09]

Wouldn't be surprised to see St Kilda get a few more prime time games this season - especially against Carlton

 

[And_ROOS]

Wouldn't be surprised to see St Kilda get a few more prime time games this season - especially against Carlton

Saints v Blues in the TDK Cup aka Silvagni Bowl, Saints v Cats because of the "hostility from the failed Marshall trade" (despite it not existing that would be all of Ch7s marketing buildup) and then the Stupid Sexy Flanders match vs SUNS.
And then you will have the redemption matches for Steele and Aleer against the Saints.

Wow 5 blockbuster matches for the Saints, thats half way to a DVD for them.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Saints v Blues in the TDK Cup aka Silvagni Bowl, Saints v Cats because of the "hostility from the failed Marshall trade" (despite it not existing that would be all of Ch7s marketing buildup) and then the Stupid Sexy Flanders match vs SUNS.
And then you will have the redemption matches for Steele and Aleer against the Saints.

Wow 5 blockbuster matches for the Saints, thats half way to a DVD for them.

Lock in melb saints double up too for the rematch of this years real time collapse

 

[And_ROOS]

Lock in melb saints double up too for the rematch of this years real time collapse

Ahh yes the Nas special.

Would absolutely love a depleted Dees win with a Steele BOG performance.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Ahh yes the Nas special.

Would absolutely love a depleted Dees win with a Steele BOG performance.

I genuinely wouldn't write it off. New coach bounce. Complicated player relationships out the door.

 

[BotsMaster]

When is the fixture released?

 

[cats_09]

We get to play GC as part of opening round up on GC

 

[Tony Barber]

When is the fixture released?

conveniently, right before the first test.
The AFL are arseholes.

 

[Catman]

Richmond complete plan to sell off 2026 home game

The Tigers are set to travel interstate for a home fixture next year and are likely to face an AFL powerhouse.

7news.com.au

LOL. I'm sure this is part of Steve Hocking's evil plan too!

 

[cats_09]

Good question Mitch

 

[And_ROOS]

Richmond complete plan to sell off 2026 home game

The Tigers are set to travel interstate for a home fixture next year and are likely to face an AFL powerhouse.

7news.com.au

LOL. I'm sure this is part of Steve Hocking's evil plan too!

HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!

Also can't have wildcards in a league with one division, call it what it is. Its a 10 team finals system in an 18 team competition which is embarrassingly stupid.
But considering the people at the top keep making these awful decisions who is surprised here.

Also next year when Tassie enters the league we will have to have a bye each week due to team numbers, so what happens with fixturing because at some point you risk a team finishing 4th, getting a bye, then having a pre-finals bye, then if they win the QF they get ANOTHER bye.

A team next year could have 2 games in 5 weeks as opposed to the currently unbalanced system.

Also shout out to scabs like Hutchy who have been pushing for this stupid wildcard system.