List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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[eaglevision]

For casual draft watchers wondering what kind of player we are drafting. Certainly some bold comparisons.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

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For casual draft watchers wondering what kind of player were drafting. Certainly some bold comparisons.

Take all the mccluggage types.

 

[Schtinker]

Just out of interest where do the 4 extra Rookie picks sit in the Draft order or do we just nominate who we want as Delisted free Agents? How many Rookie picks do we have all up?

We've been linked to
Dev Robertson
Fin McRae
Harry Schoenberg
Tom Mitchell

If we take just 2 of them and go to the Rookie draft with the other 2 do we just have picks 1 and 19?

Do we take Tom Blamires with one of those picks?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Whatever your thoughts on CDT vs Sharp are, there's some seriously shit takes on where our midfield is at in this thread the last 24 hours. You'd think the last few years of winning f**k all and getting absolutely smashed around the ball would have given people some sense of reality but apparently not.
Our midfield is the worst in the competition by a long way, a few flankers taken out of their best positions and thrown into the middle for a few games is not the future midfield of a premiership team, or hell even a top 8 team.

Absolutely.

Our forward and backlines, and our ruck, are also the worst in the comp.

It's telling that the line that lost Barrass (Club Champion) and Gov (all-time great) is our best line

 

[Elite Pete]

Just out of interest where do the 4 extra Rookie picks sit in the Draft order or do we just nominate who we want as Delisted free Agents? How many Rookie picks do we have all up?

We've been linked to
Dev Robertson
Fin McRae
Harry Schoenberg
Tom Mitchell

If we take just 2 of them and go to the Rookie draft with the other 2 do we just have picks 1 and 19?

Do we take Tom Blamires with one of those picks?

I believe Macrae and Dev will just be signed as DFA to the rookie list like Jaxon Prior did last year with the Bombers.

If we wish to take our NGAs not selected in the draft we can just pre list one of them as a Cat B.

I reckon the plan would be to have one spot left opened as well for 2 train ons.

 

[Schtinker]

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[DSWCE]

I think it's dreaming to suggest we have the makings of a good midfield on this squad already.
It's very clear to me that we need more talent in the midfield that can win the ball.

This is why I think the club is bringing in Deven Robertson and one more mature body with a few pre-seasons under their belt. As good as Dyson Sharp is, I'm not sure he has the tank to run out 4 quarters as a first year player. Which is why CDT at 2 makes sense. Super athletic and suits the modern game.... May as well use next year to get some games into him.

 

[Godfather32]

So you think that a 25 year old Harley, 26 year old Hewett, 29 year old McCarthy, 25 year old Hall, 24 year old Gross, 27 year old Hough, etc would still be the worst midfield in the comp?

Harley on his own makes that midfield middle of the pack, same as Daicos does for the Pies

Yes I think that's the worst midfield in the comp. I also think it's extremely unlikely Harley is still here if that's our midfield.

 

[EagleEgo]

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[Godfather32]

This is why I think the club is bringing in Deven Robertson and one more mature body with a few pre-seasons under their belt. As good as Dyson Sharp is, I'm not sure he has the tank to run out 4 quarters as a first year player. Which is why CDT at 2 makes sense. Super athletic and suits the modern game.... May as well use next year to get some games into him.

There's definitely arguments to be made for both guys, fwiw I would prefer Sharp but think we'll take CDT. His potential will probably be too much for the recruiters to overlook.

 

[Barrybran]

I’m not going to rage with whoever the club chooses to draft as long as we get two of Duursma, CDT, Robey and Sharp.

I don’t have the wealth of experience or the resources the club does and I haven’t seen as much of the kids live as Massey and the team have.

I have my preferences for sure but I could also make arguments for and against each of the candidates if I’m being truly objective.

Robey is my least preferred simply due to limited exposure with his current form but I can appreciate the upside. Since the main argument atm is CDT vs Sharp I’ll focus on this.



Sharp is probably the most ready to play AFL next year, this doesn’t mean he will dominate but he has the game and body to be able to hit the ground running.

CDT will take longer but being a team at the bottom we can afford to gift games to high prospects to fast track their development too.

So it comes down to this question for me.

If CDT has more upside but will take time to develop and Sharp is perfect for our needs and ready to start his career immediately what are the clubs priorities?

If improving immediately, particularly in the midfield then Sharp is our man. If they have concerns over Harley needing help then he will certainly help in this regard. He won’t be the answer but he does offer attributes we need more of and will certainly help in that regard.

However if we are not so urgent to improve asap and can play the long game for the best possible results then perhaps CDT is the way to go. Whether he becomes a ruck or a hybrid tall forward I don’t know but he has attributes that most players his size could only dream of. Once matured he could offer a point of difference very few players have and even fewer clubs.

This is not to say Sharp does not have upside or that CDT cannot impact early in his career but it does seem to be a case of now vs later, needs vs promise.

Regardless of who we choose all of our problems are not going to be fixed by this one selection. They will still only be 1 of 23 come game day.

I think we need to look beyond the next couple of years. For me, it comes down to what roles we need to fill and what opportunities we're going to have to fill them.

CDT will be a unicorn. In most drafts, you would take him and figure the rest out later.

But we have three top-5 picks left to figure out a long-term midfield that consists of Reid and maybe Hewett. I say maybe as I think he'll hold his own there but if we find better midfielders, he'll be great rotating off half forward.

If we could guarantee finding a midfielder like Sharp next year, we take CDT this year. If not, Sharp is our guy this year.

I think a high quality transition mid is going to be easier to find over the next couple of drafts than what either CDT or Sharp offer.

 

[Astro7]

Absolutely massive trade, our club is finally back on track

Re-mortgaged the house and put it on our boys winning the flag in 2026

Up the bloody coasters

Your glass is half full I see.

 

[Avalor]

There's definitely arguments to be made for both guys, fwiw I would prefer Sharp but think we'll take CDT. His potential will probably be too much for the recruiters to overlook.

Agree, good big men are hard to find, and at pick 2, you take the best player available. Across all ratings and mocks, that player is CDT, then daylight. Sharp is generally rated a 6-13 selection, so take the mean, say 9, you don't use pick 2 on a ninth ranked player. Simple. If we can trade into pick 9, that is where we could nab him, and that would be fine.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

So you think that a 25 year old Harley, 26 year old Hewett, 29 year old McCarthy, 25 year old Hall, 24 year old Gross, 27 year old Hough, etc would still be the worst midfield in the comp?

You serious?

That midfield is atrocious and would be steamrolled week in, week out.

 

[Obeanie1]

No we just downgrade and pick up supds like Bo Allen

You'r a spud.
.
A childish spud with comments like that.

Kid gets drafted, top ranked WA and state captain and after his 1st season you decide he isnt up to it based on what exactly.

Onto ignore you go, should have happened ages ago.

You add very little to this board.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Obeanie1 is done with Priddis Is Done

 

[Obeanie1]

Felt cute, might delete later:

WCE (1Duursma, 5Sharp, 7Cumming)
Give 2, 13, 34, 41
Get 5, 7, 21, 51

Melb (9Marsh, 11Lindsay)
Give 7, 8, 37
Get 9, 11, 30, 34

Ess (2CDT, 8Schubert)
Give 5, 6, 21, 30
Get 2, 8, 43

Carl (6Grjl, Match Dean)
Give 11, 43
Get 6, 13

Bri (Match Annable)
Give 23, 51
Get 37, 41, 43, 54

Dees need something more to make that worth their while.

 

[Obeanie1]

I think WC are keen on Curtin if he slips through late.

Thredgold would be decent as we need 2 KPD prospects over the next couple of years to develop and fill list needs.
He is probably just short of genuene KPD hieght unless he grows to 197 and can be a CHB type but seems to be more a lockdown KPD than CHB.

We need an H Edwards replacement for the big 200cm KPF's and an elite atheletic CHB like Gov at around 197 to take the more mobile KPF's over the next 2 years so they are ready for when we are finals bound.

The lack of KPD's this year just needs we need to target an elite next year, there are 3-4 decent prospects next year without D Shanahan as our NGA who may make it or not.
T Hodgson/Vic M, D Cochrane/SA, M Stirling/WA and there is always another couple who come from nowhere like Thredgold.

Bringing in T Young has meant we can push that further down the track.

Draft Schubert to pair up with Shanahan long term. He is a much better kick on goal.

A Reid plays as a defender / ruck backup.

Reid can start on the bench in 2026 as a rotation or to cover Harry when he is injured again.

Schubert has a couple of years before we need him to come in full time. Can cover injuries and gets development games early.

Draft
Duursma
Sharp / Cumming
Schubert
Rodreguez

Rookie
Banfield
Evans
Curtin pick 1 Rookie draft

DFA
Roberston
?

Thats 5 mids not including Duursma.

Two talls

And a utility in Duursma.

 

[Knifey Spoony]

Might be a tad late to this, but seen a couple of things about Saints offering their F1 to get Jevan. If they came knocking for pick 13 (wherever it ends up) would you accept?

 

[Elite Pete]

Might be a tad late to this, but seen a couple of things about Saints offering their F1 to get Jevan. If they came knocking for pick 13 (wherever it ends up) would you accept?

The hope would be that pick might already be tied up in a trade by then but if not it’s a chance.

Would be a little funny two season after trading TB due to being a team that needs to get into the draft to get some kids to start developing them and all we would’ve achieved from that is to bring in a 27yo still some what unknown 35 game player.

With Hawks 3rd round pick 2025 likely vanished by now.

Kicking the TB can down the road

 

[Weshi]

Dees need something more to make that worth their while.

Agreed, Carlton would jump at this!
Carl (6Grjl, Match Dean)
Give 11, 43
Get 6, 13

 

[Obeanie1]

Mate, 2 months ago you would have included Chesser in this list and I would be surprised if he gets more than a handful of games for Carlton.
You consistently overrate our players.
The midfield is far and away the worst performing area of our team, sure a few of those guys you mentioned may end up as best 22 midfielders for us but we 100% need some better midfield talent than what's already on this list to be a contending team.

And you are overrating other midfields as being unattainable by our kids.

Hawthorn is the perfect example.

Will Day is their most important mid, drafted where and and started in defense.

How did the Hawks build their midfield? Not many top picks there?

Our midfield needs two more guns. That could be Duursma, Sharp, Cumming or Warner.

The rest are quality depth mids which we have a fair few to trial and develop.

Find two more A graders and we have the cattle to develop.

 

[eaglevision]

Might be a tad late to this, but seen a couple of things about Saints offering their F1 to get Jevan. If they came knocking for pick 13 (wherever it ends up) would you accept?

If Dovaston is gone then I’d do 13 and F4 (WDB) for 50, F1 and F3 although Barker and Lindsay I am 50/50 on as to whether it would be better to take them or the F1.

 

[MrAsh7777]

Might be a tad late to this, but seen a couple of things about Saints offering their F1 to get Jevan. If they came knocking for pick 13 (wherever it ends up) would you accept?

Saints supporter mate reckons they will throw their F1 at everyone until Phillipou is off the board.

If we keep 2, can't get 13 up to 9, I'd be keen. Would mean we have slots for Williams, Banfield and Evans if required, or could take a slider at 34

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

And you are overrating other midfields as being unattainable by our kids.

Hawthorn is the perfect example.

Will Day is their most important mid, drafted where and and started in defense.

How did the Hawks build their midfield? Not many top picks there?

Our midfield needs two more guns. That could be Duursma, Sharp, Cumming or Warner.

The rest are quality depth mids which we have a fair few to trial and develop.

Find two more A graders and we have the cattle to develop.

You're not really disagreeing here.

Godfather32: We need more A grade midfielders
Obeanie1: We need more A grade midfielders