That risk could be considerably reduced by giving the wooden spoon team the final bye before the pre-finals bye, as they are unlikely to make 4th.
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Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2025, Part 2
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Or, hear me out, don't have a pre-finals bye, have a pre-GF bye, and don't have a ****ing wildcard round.
I absolutely despite the idea of wildcard round. And I'm disgusted (yet not surprised) by the naked spin that the AFL has put out around the whole initiative.
They would have some scintilla of credibility in instituting this horrific idea if they could at least admit that it's yet another of their craven grabs for cash. Yet we get all this nonsense trying to suggest that it's what the fans want and that more 'finals' (no matter how fake) can only be good for the game.
To be that mendacious and that mercenary all at once is quite the wicked combination.
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Also shoutout to crabs like Hutchy, who only want this because its more money for his companies at the expense of competition integrity. the sooner garbage like him is out of the sport the better for it.
Having 10 finals spots in an 18 team competition is embarrassingly stupid.
Having 10 finals spots in an 18 team competition is embarrassingly stupid.
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next up, a secondary finals competition for the bottom 8 that can utilize the unused stadia and time slots. 
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next up, a secondary finals competition for the bottom 8 that can utilize the unused stadia and time slots.
That could actually be more fun than the wildcard stuff
And the results of the bottom 8 playoffs is used to determine the draft order - winner gets pick #1
What if we brought back the Wizard Cup and the winner is guaranteed a finals spot?
I don't really care that much about it being a top 10, the structure with the double chance was already too weird. Just hope they don't have the bye then the "wildcard" round. H&A form has already been devalued enough.
It adds a few extra races for seculative opportunities. The race for 4th is heated, the race for 6th is heated, the race for 10th is heated. should significantly reduce the number of dead rubber games. A late shock season loss could really have a masisve consequence.
Finals is already isolated from the H&A season, they're a different reality. The idea of what is "real" might start to shift.
It adds a few extra races for seculative opportunities. The race for 4th is heated, the race for 6th is heated, the race for 10th is heated. should significantly reduce the number of dead rubber games. A late shock season loss could really have a masisve consequence.
Finals is already isolated from the H&A season, they're a different reality. The idea of what is "real" might start to shift.
The 7 v 10 and 8 v 9 games take place over the "pre-finals bye" weekend.
So you have Rd 24, then Finals "wildcard" and then the real stuff starts.
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Why don't we guarantee every team a place in the finals?
Hear me out.
All 18 teams play the regular season, then......wait for it.......every team plays finals!!
What more could fans want, right? Everyone wants to see their team play finals....stadiums would be packed, the excitement and anticipation would be through the roof....can you imagine?!
It'd be a Dillon masterstroke.
I'm interested to hear what players across the league think (without their AFL overlords scripting it). I think there'd be a significant portion of players who'd be embarrassed by finishing 10th and getting to play 'Finals'.
I recall at hillbilly country football level as a junior, we would play B finals (or as it was known by the A teams, the 'Veggie finals'). It was for all the teams who didn't make finals and it was a real 'who cares cup', mostly seen as a source of shame, and a source of much frustration from players/volunteers/parents who just wanted the nightmare season to be over with, but were forced to eek out a few more weeks for essentially nothing. Eventually it was canned and went back to normal finals fixture, and I think everyone was relieved.
I recall at hillbilly country football level as a junior, we would play B finals (or as it was known by the A teams, the 'Veggie finals'). It was for all the teams who didn't make finals and it was a real 'who cares cup', mostly seen as a source of shame, and a source of much frustration from players/volunteers/parents who just wanted the nightmare season to be over with, but were forced to eek out a few more weeks for essentially nothing. Eventually it was canned and went back to normal finals fixture, and I think everyone was relieved.
The players will toe the line and talk about how exciting it is to still be in the hunt and how fantastic it is to keep the dream alive.
Deep down, though, they'll know exactly what you've pointed out here. This is an exercise in futility and a counterfeit method of supposedly generating a fairer and more open competition.
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I love the idea. Every club can then tank the wizard cup and let West Coast win it.
Makes September easier
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Saw this on Reddit. Thought it was interesting...
Spoon Droughts
West Coast: 0 years
Richmond: 1 year
North Melbourne: 3 years
Adelaide: 5 years
Gold Coast: 6 years
Carlton: 7 years
Brisbane Lions: 8 years
Essendon: 9 years
St Kilda: 11 years
GWS Giants: 12 years
Melbourne: 16 years
Western Bulldogs: 22 years
Fremantle: 24 years
Collingwood: 26 years
Port Adelaide: 29 years (Never finished last)
Sydney Swans: 31 years
Hawthorn: 60 years
Geelong: 67 years
Spoon Droughts
West Coast: 0 years
Richmond: 1 year
North Melbourne: 3 years
Adelaide: 5 years
Gold Coast: 6 years
Carlton: 7 years
Brisbane Lions: 8 years
Essendon: 9 years
St Kilda: 11 years
GWS Giants: 12 years
Melbourne: 16 years
Western Bulldogs: 22 years
Fremantle: 24 years
Collingwood: 26 years
Port Adelaide: 29 years (Never finished last)
Sydney Swans: 31 years
Hawthorn: 60 years
Geelong: 67 years
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How's this one?
Bottom 4 Droughts
Essendon 0 years
North Melbourne 0 years
Richmond 0 years
West Coast 0 years
Adelaide 1 year
Gold Coast 2 years
Hawthorn 2 years
GWS 3 years
Collingwood 4 years
Sydney 5 years
Carlton 6 years
Melbourne 6 years
Brisbane 7 years
St Kilda 7 years
Fremantle 9 years
Western Bulldogs 13 years
Port Adelaide 14 years
Geelong 39 years
Why don't we guarantee every team a place in the finals?
Hear me out.
All 18 teams play the regular season, then......wait for it.......every team plays finals!!
What more could fans want, right? Everyone wants to see their team play finals....stadiums would be packed, the excitement and anticipation would be through the roof....can you imagine?!
It'd be a Dillon masterstroke.
Wildcard Round Result of Listening to Fans Who Want Less Gimmicks and Rule Changes, AFL Says — The Shovel
"One of the principles I’ve always adhered to is, if something’s working, it’s time to change it”
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Dillon is busy coming up with new ideas...
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AFL Introduces New ‘Masked Singer Round’ — The Shovel
“People have told us they want consistency in umpiring, stable rules, and less Americanisation. So naturally, we’ve introduced a round where a centre half forward might be dressed as Ariana Grande,” he said.
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Wildcard ain't a final, sorry Bombers fans it doesn't count.
And if it does count, then its not a Wildcard round, its a ****ing 10 team finals series in an 18 team comp, meaning we are letting shit teams make finals now.
What a dogs breakfast this league is.
Wonder how Andrew Dillon will blame Laura Kane for this when we get to finals, wildcard round produces 2 blow out games, and then 7th and 8th go into finals at a disadvantage and likely get spanked.
Can't wait for 4 of the first 6 finals to be trash results
And if it does count, then its not a Wildcard round, its a ****ing 10 team finals series in an 18 team comp, meaning we are letting shit teams make finals now.
What a dogs breakfast this league is.
Wonder how Andrew Dillon will blame Laura Kane for this when we get to finals, wildcard round produces 2 blow out games, and then 7th and 8th go into finals at a disadvantage and likely get spanked.
Can't wait for 4 of the first 6 finals to be trash results
People will undoubtedly say that my viewpoint on this is just silly and futile. But I will not be watching a single 'wildcard' final at any point in the future. Even if the only 'finals' we qualify for throughout the rest of my life are these ludicrous sideshows, I will still refuse to watch a single second of them.Wildcard ain't a final, sorry Bombers fans it doesn't count.
And if it does count, then its not a Wildcard round, its a ****ing 10 team finals series in an 18 team comp, meaning we are letting shit teams make finals now.
What a dogs breakfast this league is.
Wonder how Andrew Dillon will blame Laura Kane for this when we get to finals, wildcard round produces 2 blow out games, and then 7th and 8th go into finals at a disadvantage and likely get spanked.
Can't wait for 4 of the first 6 finals to be trash results
I hope many, many people take the same view, of course. But even if they don't, I won't be legitimising this pathetic cash grab masquerading as legitimate content with even a single second of investment on my part. That weekend will be just another form of the pre-finals bye for me. Which was ironically yet another ill-conceived and haphazard idea of the AFL overlords.
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Was the whole Port Adelaide getting beaten by the bye meme really 14 years ago
Edit: yes it was!
I bet AFLX was Dillon’s idea as well. Guy is a walking disaster.
Plus we went back to back
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Has anyone seen the GWS media department listing how far they have to travel for away games next year?
34,000km. They list an away game as Sth Melb.
34,000km. They list an away game as Sth Melb.
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