List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[bzparkes]

So given this, why wouldn’t blues trade 9 to us instead of Essendon, save themselves a heap of points.
Makes no sense given we were reported to be after 9.
Mexican stand off. We lost

How did we lose? They look like they'll have to trade both first rounders instead of keeping one, like they originally appeared to be doing.

Now they've got a bunch of trash and have to match Dean, otherwise they've thrown 9 & 11 straight in the bin for no reason.

 

[eaglevision]

Or maybe Carlton didn't want to come to the party and Clarke's basically gone '**** it' and is punishing them accordingly?

If he was doing that knowing they would match he’d bid on Dean at #1.

 

[maverick001]

How did we lose? They look like they'll have to trade both first rounders instead of keeping one, like they originally appeared to be doing.

Now they've got a bunch of trash and have to match Dean, otherwise they've thrown 9 & 11 straight in the bin for no reason.

Yes true but I mean we don’t appear to have gotten what we wanted

 

[archiemoses]

Or maybe Carlton didn't want to come to the party and Clarke's basically gone '**** it' and is punishing them accordingly?

Lol Clark definitely wouldn't have done this.

 

[plays tall 1]

Or maybe Carlton didn't want to come to the party and Clarke's basically gone '**** it' and is punishing them accordingly?

There’s no way he’s going to select players to punish another club.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Never though a 193cm third tall who we probably shouldn't be looking at irrespective of FS priority would consume so much attention.

 

[bzparkes]

There’s no way he’s going to select players to punish another club.

Well, they're trading out those picks in anticipation of a bid so they at least get something back, so they're clearly spooked, otherwise they'd have kept their 2nd first rounder.

Even if we do nothing, Carlton have traded out of the first round of this draft and it doesn't affect us whatsoever.

 

[bzparkes]

Yes true but I mean we don’t appear to have gotten what we wanted

Sure but it cost us nothing and cost Carlton giving up at least 1 first rounder in this draft.

 

[bzparkes]

If he was doing that knowing they would match he’d bid on Dean at #1.

Now he doesn't need to do anything, they've dropped out of the first round because they didn't want to trade with us and it cost us nothing to do so.

 

[Coasters7]

Has there been any talk of Richmond bidding on Dean?

If not it seems ridiculous for Carlton to trade out both picks for points when a fair portion of those points could come from us not bidding plus giving them 34, and they get to keep one of the picks.

 

[eaglevision]

Now he doesn't need to do anything, they've dropped out of the first round because they didn't want to trade with us and it cost us nothing to do so.

They haven’t done anything yet. They still hold picks 9 and 11.

 

[plays tall 1]

Well, they're trading out those picks in anticipation of a bid so they at least get something back, so they're clearly spooked, otherwise they'd have kept their 2nd first rounder.

Even if we do nothing, Carlton have traded out of the first round of this draft and it doesn't affect us whatsoever.

They may be spooked. We may select Dean. But if we do bid, it won’t be to punish them.

 

[Elite Pete]

Has there been any talk of Richmond bidding on Dean?

If not it seems ridiculous for Carlton to trade out both picks for points when a fair portion of those points could come from us not bidding plus giving them 34, and they get to keep one of the picks.

Yep the reports have been if we don’t they will but who knows.

 

[Elite Pete]

They may be spooked. We may select Dean. But if we do bid, it won’t be to punish them.

Well depends when Ison gets a bid and if they have enough points for him?

 

[eaglespremiers]

Fukn hell why is it never us that does these deals

Trading up would've probably been a play for Farrow which IMO is not warranted should we take Duursma and CDT with our first two picks.

 

[WCEswift]

maybe we can see charlie banfield developing into that inside dawg

 

[eaglevision]

maybe we can see charlie banfield developing into that inside dawg

If there’s a list spot for him…

 

[Spooky17]

I’m really trying to come around to CDT at pick 2.

I realise he’s athletically gifted and a great accumulator around the ground, but I still can’t get over the following:

• he’s somewhat undersized for a ruck and doesn’t look likely to grow anymore
• his ruck craft looks dead average
• he doesn’t have an elite jump
• he’s more of a forward than ruck and we are relatively covered for that (Snake, Hand Jobe, Jilliams, Archer, Billiams, etc).

I’m still most definitely team Sharp, or even Robey for that matter, but it looks near certain to be CDT.

I assume he is simply the best available at that pick?

 

[Byron_Clanger]

So he's a quintessential Eagles player then

I had to come back cos this is too good to ignore, checked out Greeves's IG cos I got nothing better to do with my life and look at what he posted in March...it's a sign!

 

[Elite Pete]

I had to come back cos this is too good to ignore, checked out Greeves's IG cos I got nothing better to do with my life and look at what he posted in March...it's a sign!

Good mates with Duursma….

 

[bzparkes]

I’m really trying to come around to CDT at pick 2.

I realise he’s athletically gifted and a great accumulator around the ground, but I still can’t get over the following:

• he’s somewhat undersized for a ruck and doesn’t look likely to grow anymore
• his ruck craft looks dead average
• he doesn’t have an elite jump
• he’s more of a forward than ruck and we are relatively covered for that (Snake, Hand Jobe, Jilliams, Archer, Billiams, etc).

I’m still most definitely team Sharp, or even Robey for that matter, but it looks near certain to be CDT.

I assume he is simply the best available at that pick?

Most rucks don't have an elite jump.

On the contrary, look at Bailey Williams. Bloke could probably jump higher than NN at the end and is still bad at rucking.

CDT's rucking is fine, he's just more body on body. Yes, that'll be hard against the really big rucks but of all the tallest, Witts and Gawn are the only 2 who seem to properly use their height to advantage and they're close to retirement.

If simply being tall made you good in the ruck, then there's plenty of blokes who'd be in AFL senior sides right now instead of wasting away in the 2s.

English is a complete plodder who loses the ruck to smaller ruckmen. CDT seems to be physical enough in the ruck and not timid. Also has elite speed, endurance, is a good forward, can also play back and can accumulate the footy.

Sure, he may not be the best tap ruckman but his elite qualities far outweigh his lesser ones.

 

[Peptide Pig]

I’m really trying to come around to CDT at pick 2.

I realise he’s athletically gifted and a great accumulator around the ground, but I still can’t get over the following:

• he’s somewhat undersized for a ruck and doesn’t look likely to grow anymore
• his ruck craft looks dead average
• he doesn’t have an elite jump
• he’s more of a forward than ruck and we are relatively covered for that (Snake, Hand Jobe, Jilliams, Archer, Billiams, etc).

I’m still most definitely team Sharp, or even Robey for that matter, but it looks near certain to be CDT.

I assume he is simply the best available at that pick?

I’ve been 50/50 for a while on CDT vs Robey. And it’s been interesting to see a few posters now acknowledging the possibility of Robey at 2. I still would have the likelihood as 80/20 in CDTs favour on draft night due to his obvious athletic traits for his size and more proven form over a longer period.

But I can’t help but think our dire midfield stocks could sway the club into taking Robey as the modern prototype of a powerful and damaging mid/fwd who can rack up the footy and genuinely hit the scoreboard. Would align with Minis attacking gameplan to have Harley/Hewett/Robey rotating mid/fwd creating headaches. Then add in Warner and it could be one hell of a dynamic midfield. We’re adding some mature role players to help Graham and Hall with the defensive cover.

CDT could be anything and I’d certainly be excited to watch him play. But the reality is he won’t be ruck-ready for a few years and our key forward stocks are pretty strong. Jobe, Jake, Archer, JWill, Baz and possibly Walter in the future. Waterman is only 27, Williams x2 are probably expendable provided Archer shows a bit more in the ruck, but I don’t know how lumbering Flynn will go holding up the ruck with the new rules. CDT and Archer could be a decent ruck/fwd duo in a few years all things going well, but there’s a couple of good rucks next draft also (Axel Walsh gets a few mentions).

I’m genuinely torn on who I would prefer. Probably leaning towards Robey for the midfield need but there’s a chance he ends up more of a mid sized forward like Zurhaar/Stringer as opposed to the Petracca/De Goey type. Wouldn’t be the worst outcome I suppose.

Sounds like CDT would need a fair bit of coaching to get his ruck craft to a level to justify the TDK/Jackson comparisons but if he can torch his opponent around the ground does it matter? Tim English is 7cm taller and loses the hit out count every week but still got himself an AA blazer and had us throwing $1M+ a year at him.

 

[mat11]

Bit of a balls up on Clarke's behalf not getting/making an effort for pick 9 (potentially). Banfield, Evans and William although very talented are only worthy of Rookie spots not seniors spot. Those latter picks should of been bundled up with 13 to move into the top 10. Not to mention the possibility the latter picks may not even be required because of our tight list spots. We've just let rebuilding clubs like Roos and the bombers get a free pass on players we require like dovaston, Farrow or even Sharp sliding. Happy to be labelled a bedwetter than be an apologist for a club that does dumb shit time and time again.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Given all the trades I’ve lost track of what Carlton initially had to offer for Chesser, but recall there being limited flexibility.

A bid that consumes a shitload of picks and moves our 34 and 41 up by a handful seems like a better deal than if they threw in another F3 along for the ride in the end.

Not sure that we will or even should bid on Dean at 2 judging by the talks, but Carlton clearly think it’s on the table for them to bother with this. They’ll match any bid, no way they bail on 9 and 11 for a bunch of garbage points filler if they were prepared to lose him. They’d just as easily have not matched a bid at 2 and then taken their two top 11 picks instead.

Given our current hand it could be a rare case of the 500 academy/FS/nonsense kids in the first round quietly coming in handy at the mid stage of the draft.

 

[eaglevision]

With the ESS/NM/CARL debacle our pick 13 suddenly seems difficult to choose.

1-Willem Duursma (WCE)
2-Cooper Duff-Tytler (WCE)
3-Sullivan Robey (RICH)
4-Xavier Taylor (RICH)
5-Dyson Sharp (ESS)
6-Sam Cumming (ESS)
7-Sam Grlj (MELB)
8-Aidan Schubert (MELB)
9-Lachy Dovaston (ESS)
10-Josh Lindsay (HAW)
11-Mitchell Marsh (NM)
12-Jacob Farrow (GWS)
13-??? (WCE)

Upside picks would be Barker or Phillipou. Greeves and O Taylor may be in the mix for polar opposite reasons. We may be offered a F1 from a bottom 10 side. I’d take the Saints one if it were offered.