AFL Player 30: Nate Caddy - Reports of groin tightness, restricted training loads for a few weeks - 20/11

[VelvetSledge]

 

[Blind Turn]

Really hope this isn’t an OP situation. The issue has been thereabouts for a while now.

 

[andleanback]

Really hope this isn’t an OP situation. The issue has been thereabouts for a while now.

Yeh and Scott was saying caddy continue to play last year when he was sore wasn’t doing him any harm. Should’ve been wrapped in cotton wool for the rest of the year as soon as there was a groin issue

 

[DonsRule]

Much sadness.

 

[Howard Moon]

Next minute he's sitting on a fence then playing in a Brisbane flag

 

[ant555]

Yeh and Scott was saying caddy continue to play last year when he was sore wasn’t doing him any harm. Should’ve been wrapped in cotton wool for the rest of the year as soon as there was a groin issue

Wrapping them in cotton wool is not the silver bullet either..
The issue with groin injuries and OP is more often than not players can be pain free until the work loads reach a certain level. You do not actually know if it is improving or not while they have a low work load.
Time is not a guarantee to fix it.

 

[andleanback]

Wrapping them in cotton wool is not the silver bullet either..
The issue with groin injuries and OP is more often than not players can be pain free until the work loads reach a certain level. You do not actually know if it is improving or not while they have a low work load.
Time is not a guarantee to fix it.

Wrapped in cotton wool as in no more footy

 

[MarshawnLynch]

Its OP. Had surgery and took the piss with his rehab

 

[cobra land]

This club is seriously deflating, 3 great picks last night then just to bring us back to earth this news comes out today.

Surely we have a physio at the club to make sure he's following the right steps in his recovery?

After last seasons injury crisis you'd think the medico's would be on their toes, if not they're out.

 

[crackers65]

We’ve got rid of the fitness and conditioning people, maybe the medical has been as big a problem all along. It’s disappointing to now hear that Perkins has OP and played with groin soreness last year. I cannot believe that a professional sporting club played him.

 

[cobra land]

We’ve got rid of the fitness and conditioning people, maybe the medical has been as big a problem all along. It’s disappointing to now hear that Perkins has OP and played with groin soreness last year. I cannot believe that a professional sporting club played him.

No wonder players were questioning our medical team, what a shit show!

 

[ant555]

Wrapped in cotton wool as in no more footy

He did not play after the end of July.

 

[ant555]

We’ve got rid of the fitness and conditioning people, maybe the medical has been as big a problem all along. It’s disappointing to now hear that Perkins has OP and played with groin soreness last year. I cannot believe that a professional sporting club played him.

No wonder players were questioning our medical team, what a shit show!

It is pretty normal for clubs to have guys playing through OP issues. Happens at all clubs. Yes all clubs.
As I have mentioned you can have rest and lighten the workload for periods of time but still have issues when you raise the work loads again.
The release operation does not always work either.

 

[cobra land]

It is pretty normal for clubs to have guys playing through OP issues. Happens at all clubs. Yes all clubs.
As I have mentioned you can have rest and lighten the workload for periods of time but still have issues when you raise the work loads again.
The release operation does not always work either.

OP is an overuse injury is it not?

You lose the power to push off, change direction and run at speed.

When it get's to the possiblity of being OP you should be backing off on your loads not keep playing them like we did with Perkins and to a lesser extent Caddy.

In my opinion that is mismanagement..

 

[ant555]

OP is an overuse injury is it not?

You lose the power to push off, change direction and run at speed.

When it get's to the possiblity of being OP you should be backing off on your loads not keep playing them like we did with Perkins and to a lesser extent Caddy.

In my opinion that is mismanagement..

I am good friends with a former player (non Essendon) who had OP. It is very hard to deal with. You can rest it for weeks and it will still come back when the loads reach a certain point. This cycle can continue on. he played a lot of footy managing it. He saw several different people about it. There is not a standard way to approach it and the operation to have the release operation also have a very 50/50 result as far as fixing the problem.
You are basically saying the whole AFL does not manage players properly. It is not just an issue for us.

 

[cobra land]

I am good friends with a former player (non Essendon) who had OP. It is very hard to deal with. You can rest it for weeks and it will still come back when the loads reach a certain point. This cycle can continue on. he played a lot of footy managing it. He saw several different people about it. There is not a standard way to approach it and the operation to have the release operation also have a very 50/50 result as far as fixing the problem.
You are basically saying the whole AFL does not manage players properly. It is not just an issue for us.

Possibly but what I'm saying is that Perkins was clearly hampered towards the end of the season and yet we continued to play him and IMO that is mismanagement, did him no favours at all.

 

[ant555]

Possibly but what I'm saying is that Perkins was clearly hampered towards the end of the season and yet we continued to play him and IMO that is mismanagement, did him no favours at all.

And I am saying it happens at all clubs and it is not as back and white. There is a chain of thought with physios that you have to learn to manage it because you can not 100% fix it. Part of that is playing or training at a high level.
I have a management program for my OP issues but mine are not sporting related. They are back injury related. Have spoken to several physios about it.
It is not a simple issue.

 

[cobra land]

And I am saying it happens at all clubs and it is not as back and white. There is a chain of thought with physios that you have to learn to manage it because you can not 100% fix it. Part of that is playing or training at a high level.
I have a management program for my OP issues but mine are not sporting related. They are back injury related. Have spoken to several physios about it.
It is not a simple issue.

And I'm saying when it gets to a point that you can clearly see he's hampered you back right off and rest him, it's not like we had finals to look forward to.

Just because all clubs do it doesn't make it okay to play players whilst clearly affected.

I've also had OP and rest and physio were all I could do for 3 months, it worked for me and yes I know it doesn't always work for all.

 

[Blind Turn]

At least he’s not on crutches

 

[Gabe251]

If this club flucks up another key forward, I don’t know if I can continue giving them my money

 

[nipst@r]

I mean it's a long way from afl intensity but footage vision of him running, jumping and laughing today is surely a good sign.

Its still early so hopefully just adjusting workloads.

He does fly for everything from all angles and land quite awkwardly, a bit straight and 1 legged at times. so I wonder of playing style contributes, if he did pick it up last year.

 

[ant555]

My training guy say slight groin soreness so less work for the next few weeks before the Christmas break.

 

[Vindicater]

I am good friends with a former player (non Essendon) who had OP. It is very hard to deal with. You can rest it for weeks and it will still come back when the loads reach a certain point. This cycle can continue on. he played a lot of footy managing it. He saw several different people about it. There is not a standard way to approach it and the operation to have the release operation also have a very 50/50 result as far as fixing the problem.
You are basically saying the whole AFL does not manage players properly. It is not just an issue for us.

OP is a bitch. For some it will knock them out for years and for others it will be a short four month break. Just a nightmare for medical teams to navigate.

 

[MiguelM]

My training guy say slight groin soreness so less work for the next few weeks before the Christmas break.

So does that mean it is not OP after all?

 

[Call Me Cake]

Was already reported 2 days ago that the club doesn't consider it a serious injury,

Link

The Bombers don't believe the setback is serious, and his program will be reassessed "after a week or two" of being reduced, with Caddy expected to do some light trackwork on Friday.

 

[ant555]

So does that mean it is not OP after all?

Well you wouldn’t know with us recently. Cut on the leg could be amputation