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Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3
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Considering the age of Rongit, how long is he a catb for?
My brain is wondering if we can take him as catb at the end of next year? Or is there a restriction
My brain is wondering if we can take him as catb at the end of next year? Or is there a restriction
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His general fitness is terrible i dont see him getting to the level in the next 12 months hes just seeing out a contract imo regardless of weapons.
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From all reports, only about half the teams have a "live" pick in the rookie draft, so our pick 17 may be more like pick 9
Seeing as my guess in the Afl draft yesterday is still on the board, Ill guess the same player for Rookie Pick.
Felix Kneipp.
Or Marcus Herbert.
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The KMF 60m bullet left foot for one.... thing is a cannon
Like to see him get more experience and see what he can do with it.
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Don't forget he had an interrupted pre-season last year and a delayed start to even getting a run in the VFL
If he can get a full pre-season under his belt this time it'll be interesting to see the impact that has on things for him
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If I was drafted to a club. I honesty couldn't care less about a brother being drafted.
A bit of fun maybe. Some training together. But it's not going to make me stick.
The fact I've won two B&F's might do it though.
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Only if you do it correctly.
Merrett had a brother drafted and 6 B&Fs and that didn't help... maybe they could have found a place for his mother and father as well
To be fair, that was Essendon...
Ok…i am a bit bored so thought I would be a bit controversial. Probably will regret it given the (probably fair) responses I will get but hey…
Are we better in 2026 than past couple of years…
Argument for:
Young stars could improve again…max still got work on his kicking, what if Dempsey jumps again…Same for COS…Clarke breakout?…Humprhies just getting going…Mullen could learn the game more and change role to use his pace and actually pretty solid skills…Neale could explode…Knevitte time to push hard for best 23?
Our “mid age” players are at their peak…and they are pretty good….Guthrie, Miers, Manner, Stengle, Close, J Henry
“New Recruits” could really push the team hard in terms of depth…Worpel adds something a bit different as does what I call new recruits in Bruhn and maybe cheekily Ollie Henry. If all 3 are best 23 then we have probably got better given 2 of them are early picks and the other a best and fairest - they can play. Kolo could also add something great to the backline.
Argument Against.
“Second year blues”…for Lawson and COS. Second year blues are real (even though it didn’t happen for Dempsey after his break out)…see SDK. Could get those blues for Baz too?
Older players peer over the cliff. We saw what we were like in the GF without good games from stewart, Jezza (both had good reasons to be fair!) and Danger and Blitz. If those players go into decline, or are in an out with injury like 2023, then we will have a patchy year
Draw is tough…although ours usually is given where we end up
Other teams are ready to really push the top 4…Gold Coast, Freo have the list profile to push up…Brisbane look great again…Bulldogs and Sydney surely will be much better…
On Balance…I still think we push hard for that top 4. I am bullish about our mid age players being consistent every week and think we have some special young players who will again be much better (Dempsey, COS, Neale, Mullen in particular). Baz and Max will dominate again with Bruhn/Worpel and maybe Clarke/Knevitte adding something different…and I think Danger will play his grear dozen games and Stewart and Blitz remain consistently good…
The confidence comes from the dread that I have to participate in the “best 23 for 2026” when a moderator opens that thread on BF - it will be very very hard. We genuinely have 30+ AFL high level players.
BUT….
I am wondering whether the best thing for the club over the next decade would be if we had a poor 2026. Not deliberately (that is not who we are) but an unluckily 2023 version. Where injuries to our stars, and a tough draw, just meant we were behind the eight ball the whole year before falling out. And we got pick 7 (8) whilst giving some of the younger ones a game.
For 2026 of course the major benefit of a pick 7 (and belief from opposition that maybe we have fallen off the cliff) would be change to get Butters. If we end up in top 4 again I can’t see how we have any chance of convincing people to value our future first rounders…
Of course the big counter argument to this (other than a frustrating year for us supporters - having that Essendon feel for 12 months again) is that we waste precious years of Danger, Blitz, Stewart and even Jezza…
The other point of course is with wildcard it is really hard to see us not being in the finals mix even if we have a bad year.
If we don’t have a great 2026, due to some injuries or bad luck like 2023, and that facilitates a Butters trade we will end up being top 4 7 of the following 10 years!
Are we better in 2026 than past couple of years…
Argument for:
Young stars could improve again…max still got work on his kicking, what if Dempsey jumps again…Same for COS…Clarke breakout?…Humprhies just getting going…Mullen could learn the game more and change role to use his pace and actually pretty solid skills…Neale could explode…Knevitte time to push hard for best 23?
Our “mid age” players are at their peak…and they are pretty good….Guthrie, Miers, Manner, Stengle, Close, J Henry
“New Recruits” could really push the team hard in terms of depth…Worpel adds something a bit different as does what I call new recruits in Bruhn and maybe cheekily Ollie Henry. If all 3 are best 23 then we have probably got better given 2 of them are early picks and the other a best and fairest - they can play. Kolo could also add something great to the backline.
Argument Against.
“Second year blues”…for Lawson and COS. Second year blues are real (even though it didn’t happen for Dempsey after his break out)…see SDK. Could get those blues for Baz too?
Older players peer over the cliff. We saw what we were like in the GF without good games from stewart, Jezza (both had good reasons to be fair!) and Danger and Blitz. If those players go into decline, or are in an out with injury like 2023, then we will have a patchy year
Draw is tough…although ours usually is given where we end up
Other teams are ready to really push the top 4…Gold Coast, Freo have the list profile to push up…Brisbane look great again…Bulldogs and Sydney surely will be much better…
On Balance…I still think we push hard for that top 4. I am bullish about our mid age players being consistent every week and think we have some special young players who will again be much better (Dempsey, COS, Neale, Mullen in particular). Baz and Max will dominate again with Bruhn/Worpel and maybe Clarke/Knevitte adding something different…and I think Danger will play his grear dozen games and Stewart and Blitz remain consistently good…
The confidence comes from the dread that I have to participate in the “best 23 for 2026” when a moderator opens that thread on BF - it will be very very hard. We genuinely have 30+ AFL high level players.
BUT….
I am wondering whether the best thing for the club over the next decade would be if we had a poor 2026. Not deliberately (that is not who we are) but an unluckily 2023 version. Where injuries to our stars, and a tough draw, just meant we were behind the eight ball the whole year before falling out. And we got pick 7 (8) whilst giving some of the younger ones a game.
For 2026 of course the major benefit of a pick 7 (and belief from opposition that maybe we have fallen off the cliff) would be change to get Butters. If we end up in top 4 again I can’t see how we have any chance of convincing people to value our future first rounders…
Of course the big counter argument to this (other than a frustrating year for us supporters - having that Essendon feel for 12 months again) is that we waste precious years of Danger, Blitz, Stewart and even Jezza…
The other point of course is with wildcard it is really hard to see us not being in the finals mix even if we have a bad year.
If we don’t have a great 2026, due to some injuries or bad luck like 2023, and that facilitates a Butters trade we will end up being top 4 7 of the following 10 years!
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I like the discussion thoughts....
I guess my question and "push back if you will "on the young starts continuing to improve portion...
It gets harder to get 15% better year over year for the likes of Dempsey for example as they have already improved so much - getting another 15% means going from above average to elite.. and thats is just a much harder move to make IMO.
Not saying it cant happen but given he was such a low floor as a Rookie the moves up have been great... but to keep that going gets incrementally harder.
Same for Miers, Stengle..COS, Neale.... and if this is where the expected improvement is to come from... I see challenges in getting there.
And you list the "against" reasons too - so not having a crack in any way... its just interesting to consider at this point.
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If we are after a small defender then could do worse than picking up Rory Wright this afternoon.
Not that close huh? Don't worry, I'd guess he's not expecting a Christmas present this year.
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Interesting thoughts. For me I think the biggest hurdle to getting Butters or a guy like him is getting him to nominate you. For that reason i think we'd be a better shot at getting Butters if we won the flag than if we won the spoon. Who cares what collateral we have, the choice is Ports to take a compo pick or take the draft picks we have. They're not sending him to ths draft no matter what they say.
FWIW, and it seems a moot point because he's seemingly going to the dogs, but my plan A for getting Butters is going all in on this year.
It's also what I would do without Butters coming because it sets cultural expectations for kids, takes some pressure off the kids while they're developing too.
How likely do I think success is? I'm not super bullish. We had a wildly successful injury run in the back half of the season and our coming draw is so bad it seems punitive. Short preseason and a history of grand final losers that got spanked not making finals the next year.. A reversion to the mean on injury and a better than expected bounce from Melbourne and we're really up against it.
I think the rule changes are a bit of a curve ball too. They make rucks less important which is good, and play will be fast which we can keep up with, but with the extra rotation other teams will stay fresher and our speed will be less of andvantage.
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Butters is a restricted free agent. Even if they match when was the last time an out of contract player didn't get to their desired club?
Ideally if Butters wants to come here we win the flag and Port finish bottom so they don't match like West Coast with Oscar Allen. There's absolutely no world in which they match and then demand more in a trade then we can afford because it risks him walking for nothing.
Ideally if Butters wants to come here we win the flag and Port finish bottom so they don't match like West Coast with Oscar Allen. There's absolutely no world in which they match and then demand more in a trade then we can afford because it risks him walking for nothing.
The good thing about having a tough draw is you either get to punish other contenders during the season or if not and you finish tenth you get to play some extra practice games on the road to the flag. Win-win.
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I agree generally on players who can improve. My one comment is that I think Lawson Humphries had his second year blues this year. I expect a real bounce this coming year.
How do you make that conclusion? His running capacity may not yet be there, but he’s well-built and looks fit. He was playing the toughest position on the ground in the VFL and still getting a bit of the ball.
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Goal kicking mids. Particularly those that can do it on the run 45-55m.
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Sorry if this has already been talked about but why didn’t Ollie Greeves get picked up?
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Like the Aussies revolutionised Cricket with the emphasis on fielding (stifling runs, impossible field catches, sharp runouts etc.), I think we should use our speed/agility as a defensive weapon (more tackles) while the offensive is being perfected. The "Impending Rohan" effect. No opposition ball-carrier should feel safe. You want to hand-ball through our zone, you'll earn it.
I want every line to compete on the Tackle Leaderboard
I want every line to compete on the Tackle Leaderboard
To be totally fair, they traded out Lukosious and one of their firsts last year for 2 X F1s this year. Then did some very good work amassing a big bunch of second and third rounders as part of the Petracca deal and trading out some borderline 22 players. There was a very clear and deliberate stocking up on this draft.
They've definitely been given a leg up, but they've also matured enormously around trading and have done some excellent deals themselves.
I wish they'd stop using "equalisation".
There's nothing equal about how and which clubs are permitted to draft players.
There's nothing equal about how FA/RFA works.
And there's nothing equal about the fixture.
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The knock is that he's too slow and can't/won't do defensive running.
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