Resource 2025 AFL Draft prospects and discussion.

[mickfaxis]

Thunderstruck I see our boy Charlie West has just signed a contract taking him through to 2928.

Oh my ... that's a big contract!

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

If Sam Berry was slow, we don't walk ourselves right into the trap of playing him for 12+ games and overrating a 12-15 disp mid.

Dude got games because he's quite explosive, it's what made him a social media inside mid.

He's strong and powerful I wouldnt say he is fast.

I dont see him out running too many other AFL midfielders beyond 20m

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

McGuanne is not slow!!!

2.938 20m puts him well inside the top 10% of players in this year's draft.

Im going off two draft profiles which both said a weakness is his speed, at 178cm thats not a great combo.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Im going off two draft profiles which both said a weakness is his speed, at 178cm thats not a great combo.

Richard Tambling was supposedly lightening quick on testing ....but he didn't play quick at AFL level

Testing on wooden floorboards isn't the same as playing on grass .....so you can't necessarily equate Combine testing to how a player plays ......the agility test is the one I find the most curious measure of a players, playing style

 

[Scorpus]

Richard Tambling was supposedly lightening quick on testing ....but he didn't play quick at AFL level

Testing on wooden floorboards isn't the same as playing on grass .....so you can't necessarily equate Combine testing to how a player plays ......the agility test is the one I find the most curious measure of a players, playing style

It blows my mind testing is not done on grass

 

[Mutineer]

Im going off two draft profiles which both said a weakness is his speed, at 178cm thats not a great combo.

I don't care what the draft profiles say go watch some game time, he's not slow

 

[Fud#3]

Actually McGuanne is a very similat player to Taylor with very good skills albeit a bit quicker and certainly a far better runner.

A slightly slower Colby McKercher

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I don't care what the draft profiles say go watch some game time, he's not slow

How in the hell do you arrive at his speed utilizing that footage .....there were no examples that show he's no different to a Sam Berry

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Nicks has said the team needs more speed and power in the midfield and across HB

How the **** does Tom McGuane address this need….

Tom played for Collingwood VFL this year and struggled at that level - was the key reason why the Pies and probably every other club over-looked him

This is so ****ing Hamish - continues to waste lost spots

You're unlikely to find that with SSP train on-player

 

[UcantCme]

You're unlikely to find that with SSP train on-player

Totally disagree
No SSP train on player has either speed or power please

Port have invited one SSP player with good foot speed

Players may not have both but they should have at least one of those attributes - Speed, Size or Power

No point having anyone on the list that can’t compete

Size, Strength or Speed matters

 

[Mutineer]

How in the hell do you arrive at his speed utilizing that footage .....there were no examples that show he's no different to a Sam Berry

There's plenty of footage available of all his entire Nationals, Coates Talent League and VFL games available if you care to take the time.

 

[Scorpus]

Totally disagree
No SSP train on player has either speed or power please

Port have invited one SSP player with good foot speed

Players may not have both but they should have at least one of those attributes - Speed, Size or Power

No point having anyone on the list that can’t compete

Size, Strength or Speed matters

SSP players with size or speed usually have significant flaws, like disposal or footy IQ.

There's no point taking another Ronin O'Connor type (big but can't find the football) or an Anthony Wilson (fast but that was it)

 

[jackster83]

I don't care what the draft profiles say go watch some game time, he's not slow

He looks like he can find the football at least, which is more than I can say for some of the midfielders in our starting 23.

I guess the club would be hoping that he could turn into a Laird type.

 

[GreyCrow]

I don't care what the draft profiles say go watch some game time, he's not slow

No speed at all in that clip was shown. It was a standard speed expected from most

He has an unco kick at times

Handballs to receivers were good but overall I saw a general everyday player that may or may not make it

 

[Big Dub]

If a player has slipped through all 18 clubs in a weak draft, it means he's not expected to make it as an AFL footballer. So, there is no point in picking the prospect who is likely to be the best of that bad bunch in the hope that he is slightly above expectations and becomes a fringe AFL player.

It's far better to target the player who's a 90% chance of being a bust and a 10% chance of being a top 15 player.

Is that McGuane or Foot? Who knows? Hopefully Haggis.

But it's not a fail if we sign someone in the SSP and he doesn't make it. It's a fail if we get a fringe AFL player.

Our record for late/ rookie picks used in 2015 to 2024:
Top 15 (18%) - Keane, Murray, Keays, Seed, Greenwood, Keath
Best 22 (15%) - Hinge, Butts (would be in another team), Stengle, Frampton, Murphy
Fringe (15%) - Nank, Borlase, Parnell, Sholl, Easy
Fail - (52%) - Burgess, Gallagher, T Brown, Newchurch, Turner, Hately, Crocker, A Taylor, Strachan (but did his role), Edwards, Wilson, Gibson, Jarman, Davis, Signorello, Beech, Hunter

Too early to tell - Ludowyke, Maley, McAndrew, Welsh, Turray, Bond, Ah Chee (I'm kidding)

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It blows my mind testing is not done on grass

It's not to see how fast they are in games necessarily, just to compare to others. So need identical conditions that don't change due to grass type, mower blade height, sand-based, dewy, couch vs kikuyu, impact of worms etc

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I saw a general everyday player that may or may not make it

I think you'll be proven right!

 

[StonesThrow]

Jake Kelly turned out alright for chump change.

Maybe in terms of games played, but he was a list clogger that the coaches seemed to love.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Totally disagree
No SSP train on player has either speed or power please

Port have invited one SSP player with good foot speed

Players may not have both but they should have at least one of those attributes - Speed, Size or Power

No point having anyone on the list that can’t compete

Size, Strength or Speed matters

sure, but that means that they'll have some other major flaw.

People are acting like there's some golden goose player just waiting for us to give them a shot.

also McGuane ran a sub 3 second 20m sprint

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

It blows my mind testing is not done on grass

you can't make the tests standardized on grass

 

[jackster83]

It blows my mind testing is not done on grass

Willie Rioli likes this.

 

[Scorpus]

It's not to see how fast they are in games necessarily, just to compare to others. So need identical conditions that don't change due to grass type, mower blade height, sand-based, dewy, couch vs kikuyu, impact of worms etc

All the main testing is done on the same day.

If they want to compare across events, get them to do a second, much less important test on a hard surface

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most train-on invitation players will have a weakness of some kind

Not too many blue chippers floating around the country and ammo leagues

 

[Scorpus]

you can't make the tests standardized on grass

It's a trade off.

You can either have a non representative but standardized test done, or a representative test.

With the main important test done on the same day with everyone there, the main testing should be done on an actual gameday surface

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

All the main testing is done on the same day.

If they want to compare across events, get them to do a second, much less important test on a hard surface

The testing is done for many years, at many venues, all states and tracked/compared over time

Even on the one day the turns in an agility run will get worn after a few goes on grass

Just creates variables