Analysis The Rebuilds of West Coast and Richmond and their Future Prospects

[THE_GUN]

I’ve been known to be right at least 50% of the time

Sure you were
It will be ok dont worry about what they all say about you

you just be you as you are 'special'

 

[ShereKhan]

How many rookies in 2023 had 40%+ CBA’s?

His CC/CBA far exceeded Lalors this year, is he a failed mid currently?

How many rookies in 2023 had 40%+ CBA’s?

His CC/CBA far exceeded Lalors this year, is he a failed mid currently?

'Far exceeded'....Ginbey's CC/CBA was 6.0 and Lalor's was 4.7.....

Lalor has failed as a clearance midfielder thus far. Fortunately he had 20 goals and goal assists in his 10 x games.

In his last 10 games playing mid (games 26-35) Ginbey kicked 1 x goal and had 1 x goal assist - he only had 11 goals and goal assists in his 35 x games playing midfield. His SI's and SI% were very low.

That's why Ginbey was re-deployed - he had very minimal damage with anything he was doing in the midfield...he's just not creative by hand or foot, doesn't kick goals and wasn't getting involved in scores.

He wasn't re-deployed out of the midfield from a team that desperately needs young midfielders for sh*ts and giggles.

If Lalor is producing the same statlines in midfield as Ginbey was 35-games into his career he won't be playing midfield either.

 

[Morro]

'Far exceeded'....Ginbey's CC/CBA was 6.0 and Lalor's was 4.7.....

Lalor has failed as a clearance midfielder thus far. Fortunately he had 20 goals and goal assists in his 10 x games.

In his last 10 games playing mid (games 26-35) Ginbey kicked 1 x goal and had 1 x goal assist - he only had 11 goals and goal assists in his 35 x games playing midfield. His SI's and SI% were very low.

That's why Ginbey was re-deployed - he had very minimal damage with anything he was doing in the midfield...he's just not creative by hand or foot, doesn't kick goals and wasn't getting involved in scores.

He wasn't re-deployed out of the midfield from a team that desperately needs young midfielders for sh*ts and giggles.

If Lalor is producing the same statlines in midfield as Ginbey was 35-games into his career he won't be playing midfield either.

Also worth mentioning Ginbey apparently an elite runner whilst Lalor interrupted pre season and never did one prior to the draft.

Shit canning Lalor after what he showed half fit is amazing, even for WC fans

 

[lmach]

Haven't bothered to properly read the thread since I've seen that basement dweller The Gun is in here posting 24/7 but I think we can all agree West Coast are closer to a flag

 

[THE_GUN]

So now we have eagles supporters claiming Ginbey is a better mid than lalor

lets see how that goes in the next few years

 

[Shueygod]

So now we have eagles supporters claiming Ginbey is a better mid than lalor

lets see how that goes in the next few years

Quote one person that claimed that?

 

[hammer180]

I’ve been known to be right at least 50% of the time

 

[THE_GUN]

Early days but Lalor is a bit of a spud

Quote one person that claimed that?

Eagles supporters : Ginbey will be an elite mid
then you have another calling Lalor a spud

These quotes are bookmark worthy

 

[Shueygod]

Eagles supporters : Ginbey will be an elite mid
then you have another calling Lalor a spud

These quotes are bookmark worthy

So no one has claimed Ginbey will be a better mid than Lalor like your initial claim?

 

[THE_GUN]

So no one has claimed Ginbey will be a better mid than Lalor like your initial claim?

Do i really need to spell it out for you mate or are you just wanting to be argumentative for the sake of it ?
discussions about Ginbey have been going on for way too long and nek minute as the kids say
an eagles supporter brings Lalor into the discussion.

But i can always rely on you to make my day






* oh and BZ

 

[Morro]

Do i really need to spell it out for you mate or are you just wanting to be argumentative for the sake of it ?
discussions about Ginbey have been going on for way too long and nek minute as the kids say
an eagles supporter brings Lalor into the discussion.

But i can always rely on you to make my day






* oh and BZ

Shuedog, old flip flopper himself. MOves more goal posts than an auskick camp.

 

[THE_GUN]

Shuedog, old flip flopper himself. MOves more goal posts than an auskick camp.

Its not intentional with shuey he doesn't do it deliberately.
just struggles at times but we do get there eventually.

its that other one o'bonea that flips more than he flops

 

[Shueygod]

Shuedog, old flip flopper himself. MOves more goal posts than an auskick camp.

Its not intentional with shuey he doesn't do it deliberately.
just struggles at times but we do get there eventually.

its that other one o'bonea that flips more than he flops

I move goalposts yet The Gun is the one that claims something was being said, yet can’t find any evidence of said thing.

 

[THE_GUN]

I move goalposts yet The Gun is the one that claims something was being said, yet can’t find any evidence of said thing.

Here we go moving the goal posts and the usual deflection as his modus operandi

 

[LeBronco]

In 33 years interstate teams have won 14 premierships
Looks like travel really is not that much of a factor

How many of those interstate premierships have been won without concessions from the AFL? I can only think of West Coast in 2006 but they were on drugs and West Coast in 2018 but Maynard was blocked. At least Fremantle have never won any tainted premierships.

 

[THE_GUN]

How many of those interstate premierships have been won without concessions from the AFL? I can only think of West Coast in 2006 but they were on drugs and West Coast in 2018 but Maynard was blocked. At least Fremantle have never won any tainted premierships.

Bloody hell mate now you are changing the narrative of the topic
fact remains the interstate teams have won their fair share of premierships on a constant basis for the amount of teams that are in the league the last 25 years 10 in the last 25 years and 14 in the last 35 years and when you factor in how many interstate teams there were back then its about right and travel has not seem to be a factor in the last 35 years.

 

[bzparkes]

Fremantle have never won any premierships.

Yep, something we can all celebrate.

 

[Former Decathlete]

So now we have eagles supporters claiming Ginbey is a better mid than lalor

lets see how that goes in the next few years

They will also tell you Hewett is better than Will Ashcroft and Yeo is going to win the Brownlow this year.

 

[bzparkes]

They will also tell you Hewett is better than Will Ashcroft and Yeo is going to win the Brownlow this year.

 

[ShereKhan]

Eagles supporters : Ginbey will be an elite mid
then you have another calling Lalor a spud

These quotes are bookmark worthy

Ginbey was basically the worst performed midfielder in the entire competition for the seasons he played there. No shame in being re-deployed to the backline, as he has acquitted himself well there thus far. He won’t return to the Eagles midfield …. ever. It’s not his go.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Ginbey was basically the worst performed midfielder in the entire competition for the seasons he played there. No shame in being re-deployed to the backline, as he has acquitted himself well there thus far. He won’t return to the Eagles midfield …. ever. It’s not his go.

Thing is Ginbey is getting more score involvements in defence than he was getting in the midfield.

Shame they all result from hitting opponents on the sternum.

 

[bzparkes]

Ginbey was basically the worst performed midfielder in the entire competition for the seasons he played there.

Hmm... Of the midfielders who played more than 10 games in 2024, I see 5 Richmond midfielders, including Hopper, who had worse ratings than him. McIntosh was the 2nd worse rated mid in the entire competition who'd played more than 10 games.

Please don't make dumb comments like this in future.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

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Hmm... Of the midfielders who played more than 10 games in 2024, I see 5 Richmond midfielders, including Hopper, who had worse ratings than him. McIntosh was the 2nd worse rated mid in the entire competition who'd played more than 10 games.

Please don't make dumb comments like this in future.

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Lol, BeeZed has gone full circle back to Ginbey going to save the Eagles from hell now.

The bloke couldn't hit Uluru with a fire hose. Unbelievable desperation from you Beezee.

 

[Shueygod]

Lol, BeeZed has gone full circle back to Ginbey going to save the Eagles from hell now.

The bloke couldn't hit Uluru with a fire hose. Unbelievable desperation from you Beezee.

you blokes love a reach:

“Ginbey is statistically worst mid ever”
“based on what”
“Lol you guys think Ginbey is Chris Judd reincarnate”

 

[Meteoric Rise]

you blokes love a reach:

Chris Judd? Temu Cotchin.