Religion Bondi shooting - 16 confirmed dead at Jewish event

[ferball]

Not according to the Australian Institute of Criminology. In the 3 financial years endin 30 June 2014-2016 deaths of women at the hands of their intimate partners declined each year .52, .46,.41 per 100,000. aihw.gov.au.

So you're saying it dropped after Abbott left power?

I think that supports my point.

 

[Markfs]

The Liberal Party ended the White Australia Policy, were responsible for the 1967 referendum, implemented Whitlam's Land Rights legislation and took in Vietnamese refugees on boats.

Its insane what they've turned into.

Do you think they wouldnt allow indigenous people to vote now?...or stop people from settling in australia purely on their skin colour?....hang on...let me rethink this

 

[_Cerberus_]

Oh god. Even the right stopped “I have black friends” about a decade ago.

Oh, so you know all about my social circle do you? I work at a large event venue and come across people of all walks of life. So yes I have some queer friends, close to an aboriginal family who took me to the footy a lot, kiwis from playing a certain football code, Jewish, Muslim who were former workers at my retail job that I still connect with.

I didn't realise certain demographics couldn't possibly have friends outside of their own. Seems something pulls on a string when some here realise not all conservative voters or Jewish people agree with the actions of the Liberals last week.

Try not to be a dismissive dick and make assumptions about another person's life because for some reason you think it's about challenging your world view, than simply sharing the opinion of those around me. Plenty of us do get about in this world.

Also for the 100th time. I've voted Liberals more times than any other party. And even now I think they have gone to s**t. Least I'm not afraid to admit it and jumped ship.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Oh god. Even the right stopped “I have black friends” about a decade ago.

What, Jewish people can't have friends outside of Judaism? Isn't that a tad anti-Semitic?

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

You still fall into the trap of thinking this is an antisemitic issue. It is not, well it is, but only tangentially, this is a radical Islam issue. And everything you just posted proved that Albanese never once addressed radical Islam, the only thing he did (if you attempt to give him credit at all), is address a broad concept of 'antisemitism' and even then limited that focus almost exclusively to 'neo nazism', never once condeming radical Islam.

You're welcome to provide receipts of the claims set out above that Albanese "condemned" radical Islam. I've never seen him do that, and I doubt there will be receipts. He didn't condemn it after those two massacred a crowd full of Australians, so he wouldn't have done it on October 9.

Also lol at that video being "debunked" hahahaha - didn't realise "debunked" meant "swept under the rug by a Labor government".

Chanp you can admit you have been pwned and can give up.

 

[H Dolphin]

So you're saying it dropped after Abbott left power?

I think that supports my point.

Abbott was PM 2013 - 2015. The AIC stats correspond to those years. Ridiculous assertion with no statistical foundation. You don’t have to make things up, just say you didn’t like his haircut.

 

[ElectricG]

What, Jewish people can't have friends outside of Judaism? Isn't that a tad anti-Semitic?

Who said that

 

[ElectricG]

Oh, so you know all about my social circle do you? I work at a large event venue and come across people of all walks of life. So yes I have some queer friends, close to an aboriginal family who took me to the footy a lot, kiwis from playing a certain football code, Jewish, Muslim who were former workers at my retail job that I still connect with.

I didn't realise certain demographics couldn't possibly have friends outside of their own. Seems something pulls on a string when some here realise not all conservative voters or Jewish people agree with the actions of the Liberals last week.

Try not to be a dismissive dick and make assumptions about another person's life because for some reason you think it's about challenging your world view, than simply sharing the opinion of those around me. Plenty of us do get about in this world.

Also for the 100th time. I've voted Liberals more times than any other party. And even now I think they have gone to s**t. Least I'm not afraid to admit it and jumped ship.

I’m not saying I don’t believe you. I’m saying it means Jack shit.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Who said that

Well, what are you trying to say about _Cerberus_'s Jewish friends? That they don't exist? That they can't have Cerberus for a friend?

Bit much, that. You and I might disagree but I'd never deny the possibility that your friends might exist even if I can't see them.

 

[Markfs]

Albo has issued an official apology for being unfairly booed by the jewish congregation at bondi beach over the weekend.....evidently that's not enough.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Does the special envoy relationship only go one way?

 

[ferball]

A party founded by a campaigner who was so cucked by business that he sold pig iron to our enemies in world war 2, lets be real this is what the Liberal Party has always been.

A party founded by a cuck for capital, who bails when shit must get done.

That doesn't change the facts I mentioned.

That party (for all its flaws) was responible for some of the most important anti-racist legislation in Australian history. It enabled multiculturalism and supported indigenous rights.

 

[Carringbush2010]

From what little we know so far this attack happened because the people who have the ability and knowledge to act chose not to.

Exactly my point, and THAT is not good enough.

Like I said in that original post you replied to...........

It's not the scary brown man, the every single white person is a bigot, not the transphobes or homophobes, the transgender people or LBGTQI, or religous people, or atheists, or agnostics or anyone else.

It comes down to no one being held to account (enough) for anti social / life threatening behaviour, for whatever reason.

Having being held to account for said behaviour does not have to mean we have to eradicate liberalism in totality, just apply social elements to ensure survival of liberal democracy. Like I said there needs to be balance.

Not because of any wokester agenda or whatever but because they made that decision inhouse for operational, strategic or other reasons.

I would hope you're not suggesting I've alluded this, definitely not. Yes I know there a few on here that DO blame political correctness, but that's far from the majority, even less so out in society.

In part I do blame what seems to be leniency, and in my view that is not unreasonable to blame, if that is viewed as me blaming 'wokism' then guilty I am, my conscience is clear. If that is unreasonable then so be it I'm gonna stand by that.

 

[1990crow]

Albo has issued an official apology for being unfairly booed by the jewish congregation at bondi beach over the weekend.....evidently that's not enough.

They don't really care what Labor do or don't do.
They just want an excuse for their master race party to be in power, and ensure the rich get richer.
When do the Libs announce their Lebensraum policy to take over NZ?

Anyone supporting this garbage is a POS.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Nah we should get heaps pissed off, and more and more pissed off each time it happens.

Unity in the face of extremism is what they hate the most, G. A strong multicultural nation that includes rather than one that rejects and excludes, which is what the extremists would like us to do.

Regress into division and hate and the extremists have won. Stand together and they lose, big time.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

That doesn't change the facts I mentioned.

That party (for all its flaws) was responible for some of the most important anti-racist legislation in Australian history. It enabled multiculturalism and supported indigenous rights.

And in the modern era it rejected all of those things.

Once again a cucked for capital party who is just anti labor party 2.0 because ww2 destroyed them.

 

[ferball]

Abbott was PM 2013 - 2015. The AIC stats correspond to those years. Ridiculous assertion with no statistical foundation. You don’t have to make things up, just say you didn’t like his haircut.

According to the AIC homicide report 2012-2013 to 2013-2014 (and this is a direct quote that I copied from the report)

The number of female intimate partner homicide victims increased from 83 in 2010–12 to 99 in 2013–14.

So from 83 in two years before he became pm to 99 in the first year he was pm.

Its even more than I originally said.

 

[ferball]

And in the modern era it rejected all of those things.

Yes that was my point. Well done for noticing.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Do you remember it?

The Stolen Generation continued through to the 1970s. I certainly remember the 1970s. I’ve met Adam Goodes’ mother, and she was stolen.

You act like this was the Boer War or something.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Performative hysteria from Bridget McKenzie. per the graund blog

Why doesn’t she just come out and say she hates Australia? Only someone who hates Australia would be so willing to sow rancour and division.

FMD Bondi was appalling. But two Australians took rifles to Bondi to murder innocent Jews in cold blood, and 27 million Australians didn’t.

 

[Carringbush2010]

The Muslim community in Australia is 3-4 times the size it was in 2001. What percentage are "radical", man?

Obviously very minuscule, if it was a majority that are radical then obviously we'd be living in a dystopian society at worst, at best those radicals wouldn't be here.

Can the resources keep up?

Obviously yes, however for whatever reasons those resources aren't being applied.

How about they just enforce the ones that they have?

Excellent question, as always the populace are kept in the dark, the leniency for anti social / life threatening behaviour is unacceptable imo.

 

[Carringbush2010]

This thread is very ethical....probably the most ethical thread

Cynasism duly noted.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Isis, far right cookers, and the Chinese/Russian government bots influencing social media must be laughing at the way Australia is tearing itself apart.

Except we’re not.

 

[ferball]

Exactly my point, and THAT is not good enough.

Like I said in that original post you replied to...........

It's not the scary brown man, the every single white person is a bigot, not the transphobes or homophobes, the transgender people or LBGTQI, or religous people, or atheists, or agnostics or anyone else.

It comes down to no one being held to account (enough) for anti social / life threatening behaviour, for whatever reason.

Having being held to account for said behaviour does not have to mean we have to eradicate liberalism in totality, just apply social elements to ensure survival of liberal democracy. Like I said there needs to be balance.

I would hope you're not suggesting I've alluded this, definitely not. Yes I know there a few on here that DO blame political correctness, but that's far from the majority, even less so out in society.

In part I do blame what seems to be leniency, and in my view that is not unreasonable to blame, if that is viewed as me blaming 'wokism' then guilty I am, my conscience is clear. If that is unreasonable then so be it I'm gonna stand by that.

I think we're on the same page here.

It comes down to no one being held to account (enough) for anti social / life threatening behaviour, for whatever reason.
There should be inquiries into why this attack happened but from the little info we have it seems the killers weren't held to account because the people who could have held them to account before they went and killed a bunch of innocent people didn't.

For whatever reason.

Going to Mindanao isn't enough on its own to make someone look sus but when someone with ties to Daesh/IS/ISIS does it then there really needs to be more scrutiny on what they're doing. Especially if it turns out they traveled to the Muslim Autonomous Zone where IS affiliated groups are known to operate and train militants. Which seems to be the case here. Other people have been investigated for doing exactly that.

I don't see the point of more laws and more powers to security agencies when they aren't using the powers they have effectively.

You asked why the father was allowed to keep his guns. Its a good question.

He was a member of a hunting club in Sydney

... but he and his IS connected son travelled to a place where IS connected groups carry out military training.

I've had a friend who own guns get a visit from the coppers in NSW because there were reports they had a beer before using their weapon. The cops were there within an hour to check him out and if it had been true he'd have lost his gun license and the guns themselves.

So how did S.Anwar get to keep them all after travelling to an area where IS affiliated groups have trained militants with his son who was affliated with IS?

 

[H Dolphin]

According to the AIC homicide report 2012-2013 to 2013-2014 (and this is a direct quote that I copied from the report)

The number of female intimate partner homicide victims increased from 83 in 2010–12 to 99 in 2013–14.

So from 83 in two years before he became pm to 99 in the first year he was pm.

Its even more than I originally said.

Rates per 100,000 in the financial year ending June 2010, was .41. Then Gillard was elected in June and the rates then climbed each year to .54 June 2013. Abbott was elected PM in September 2013 and the rates declined each year. Femicide is contributed to by relationship breakdown so the election of a feminist clearly led to the increases. That’s as ridiculous as the extra 16 deaths over 3 years a consequence of the election of Abbott. What about that 2013 - 2015 was the Hawthorn with its unsociable football Premiership threepeat leading to the decrease because males vented their aggression at Hawthorn matches ? What about the increase of concentrations of greenhouse gasses to 400,000 parts per million in 2013 ? Absolutely ridiculous. Stick to his bad haircuts, that makes more sense.