Jacinta Allan - Leading a zombie government

[MarcMaverick]

Yeah was wondering about this also.. can it be used?

Govt. don't have the will to want to use it.

 

[Sttew]

Govt. don't have the will to want to use it.

And yet we pay to keep the place running in our water rates. An estimated $700 million/year

If we are facing water restrictions isn’t now the time to ramp up the desalination plant?

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

And yet we pay to keep the place running in our water rates. An estimated $700 million/year

If we are facing water restrictions isn’t now the time to ramp up the desalination plant?

Apparently it costs significant money to get water from the Desal plant. That'll only put pressure on the current government as it'll contribute to cost of living pressures. We'll have higher electricity costs AND higher water costs.

Can't see the government ordering water during this term.

 

[peetoo]

Desalination plant?

Operating apparently

 

[eddiesmith]

Apparently it costs significant money to get water from the Desal plant. That'll only put pressure on the current government as it'll contribute to cost of living pressures. We'll have higher electricity costs AND higher water costs.

Can't see the government ordering water during this term.

They order 50 GL earlier this year for the 25/26 year, which is well below the 400-500 Victorians use a year.

Although its capacity is only 150GL a year.

 

[10571z]

Victoria rejects call for new dams - ABC listen

Victoria has responded with a firm "no" to pressure from the Federal Government to build more dams, as Australia faces the threat of serious water shortages over summer.

www.abc.net.au

Bravo Labor.

No new dams since decades ago while the population increases.

Maybe we can turn on the de sal plant.

 

[10571z]

Apparently it costs significant money to get water from the Desal plant. That'll only put pressure on the current government as it'll contribute to cost of living pressures. We'll have higher electricity costs AND higher water costs.

Can't see the government ordering water during this term.

Maybe they should have scrapped the treaty there’s a spare 70m a year

 

[MarcMaverick]

Maybe they should have scrapped the treaty there’s a spare 70m a year

Or the SRL.

 

[10571z]

35% population growth since 2015 and no new water storage created by the Labor government and now we are running out. Lucky we have the Treaty though

 

[Ghost Patrol]

35% population growth since 2015 and no new water storage created by the Labor government and now we are running out. Lucky we have the Treaty though

The glass is 75% full, yet you are crying about it being 25% empty?

 

[Crankyhawk]

The glass is 75% full, yet you are crying about it being 25% empty?

Tbf the time to worry is when there is time to do something (water restrictions or plan for new dams/ condition acceptance of higher prices by use of desalination plant)

 

[Del203211]

The glass is 75% full, yet you are crying about it being 25% empty?

It’s a pretty valid topic to discuss.
I can’t for the life of me work out why and how a moderator can just hop on and take the piss out of someone.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Yeah was wondering about this also.. can it be used?

Desalination

A summary on why Victoria built the desalination plant and current water orders.

www.water.vic.gov.au

It is.
Order of 50GL this year alone.

 

[Del203211]

Desalination

A summary on why Victoria built the desalination plant and current water orders.

www.water.vic.gov.au

It is.
Order of 50GL this year alone.

Sounds like we’re gonna need another order next year..?

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Sounds like we’re gonna need another order next year..?

More than likely yes. Probably more than 50GL

 

[Maggie5]

It’s a pretty valid topic to discuss.
I can’t for the life of me work out why and how a moderator can just hop on and take the piss out of someone.

Valid yes, on its own. No need to mention treaty as totally unrelated.

 

[Del203211]

Valid yes, on its own. No need to mention treaty as totally unrelated.

If its about what the government is spending their money on, he’s allowed to have that opinion, is he not?.
He’s not questioning the treaty, he’s questioning what we’re spending money on.

Is this breaking forum rules?

I don’t believe it is, and it didn’t need a smartass reply from a moderator.
Should be trying to keep people posting on here, not deterring them or making them feel worthless for having an opinion.

 

[Maggie5]

If its about what the government is spending their money on, he’s allowed to have that opinion.
He’s not questioning the treaty, he’s questioning what we’re spending money on.

Is this breaking forum rules?

I don’t believe it is, and it didn’t need a smartass reply from a moderator.
Should be trying to keep people posting on here, not deterring them or making them feel worthless for having an opinion.

I am not posting as a Mod so don't know the answer to your question. I am posting as a poster just like you.

The government has indicated there is a concern about water shortage, they are not in charge of how much rain we get.
I am pleased that it has been brought to the attention of us users so early. Forewarned is good.

There was an uproar when the desalination plant was built as a waste of money and unnecessary and here we are where it has been supplementing our dams.

Sometimes no matter what is achieved it will never be enough for some.

Mention of treaty not relevant as far as I am concerned and I saw it as a putdown (to the Treaty) and unnecessary.

Just my opinion of course (if allowed).

 

[Del203211]

I am not posting as a Mod so don't know the answer to your question. I am posting as a poster just like you.

The government has indicated there is a concern about water shortage, they are not in charge of how much rain we get.
I am pleased that it has been brought to the attention of us users so early. Forewarned is good.

There was an uproar when the desalination plant was built as a waste of money and unnecessary and here we are where it has been supplementing our dams.

Sometimes no matter what is achieved it will never be enough for some.

Mention of treaty not relevant as far as I am concerned and I saw it as a putdown (to the Treaty) and necessary.

Just my opinion of course (if allowed).

At the end of the day, if the government is able to put another water order in and doesn’t need to bring in more restrictions, then the argument of “affordability” is irrelevant.

That poster that you are referring to, was replying to another poster that mentioned high costs and the consequences of another water order.

For context:

Apparently it costs significant money to get water from the Desal plant. That'll only put pressure on the current government as it'll contribute to cost of living pressures. We'll have higher electricity costs AND higher water costs.

Can't see the government ordering water during this term.

Maybe they should have scrapped the treaty there’s a spare 70m a year

If he feels it’s a waste of money, and can be used better elsewhere, I don’t think they should be put down with smartass replies.

If the forum rules are that you can’t criticise the costs of a treaty, then I’ll happily stand corrected.

 

[Del203211]

There was an uproar when the desalination plant was built as a waste of money and unnecessary and here we are where it has been supplementing our dams.

Sometimes no matter what is achieved it will never be enough for some..

Very glad we have it, and yep spot on to paragraph #2.

 

[Maggie5]

At the end of the day, if the government is able to put another water order in and doesn’t need to bring in more restrictions, then the argument of “affordability” is irrelevant.

That poster that you are referring to, was replying to another poster that mentioned high costs and the consequences of another water order.

For context:





If he feels it’s a waste of money, and can be used better elsewhere, I don’t think they should be put down with smartass replies.

If the forum rules are that you can’t criticise the costs of a treaty, then I’ll happily stand corrected.

I think you are missing my point and happy to leave it there.

 

[10571z]

The glass is 75% full, yet you are crying about it being 25% empty?

Our time for building new water storage projects were prior to when our dams were over flowing with excessive rain

Our last major water storage project was the Thomson dam in the 80s when our population was around 4 million. We now have over 7 million and the same amount of water.

Dan Andrews famously stated there was no point building dams as they wouldn’t fill, which was a completely false statement.

Further government incompetence while they spend money on just about everything else

 

[kalex6251]

..... let me see if i properly understand the environmental argument being waged here (and elsewhere on SRP)

- building dams = good

- building renewable energy towers = bad

the toxic influence of RWNJ / MAGA politics (especially in regional australia) really has warped some peoples minds

 

[10571z]

..... let me see if i properly understand the environmental argument being waged here (and elsewhere on SRP)

- building dams = good

- building renewable energy towers = bad

the toxic influence of RWNJ / MAGA politics (especially in regional australia) really has warped some peoples minds

I mean there is basically one way to store a significant amount of water.

As for electricity there is multiple ways of varying cost long and short term to create it.

 

[Del203211]

I mean there is basically one way to store a significant amount of water.

As for electricity there is multiple ways of varying cost long and short term to create it.

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