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Do not post conspiracy theories on this forum. We have an entire other forum for that.

Thanks all.

 

[RCAB]

Now I certainly was left growing but what being 'left' meant went from simply caring about the environment, having robust social systems, supporting the working class, LGBQT+ rights, etc to the extreme identity politics which affects both the left and right.

You continually make spurious claims then go cry and have hissy fits when people question you on it or ask you to back it up in here.

I'm not going bother but don't go crying when somebody will. But I think most people are getting tired of your rhetoric in here.

 

[bzparkes]

It's quite clear that you're not particularly interested in hearing anyone's take that doesn't agree with you.

Same as when you made up your own definition of war, then got upset when someone disagreed and proceeded to go on a whole anti-Wikipedia radical leftism rant.

There's also plenty of difference and disagreement within 'the left' because once again

So you don't know what 'politically progressive' is without Wikipedia?

Why bring it up then?

 

[QuietB]

Im not an expert but I reckon 17 trillion worth of Oil could be worthwhile spending 100B to get up to speed.

Hmmmm, let's see;

• The US is not going to put boots on the ground - so they will be relying on Venezuela for security
• Russia is involved
• Who knows about China
• The are established militia everywhere
• There will be an inevitable revolt by the Venezuela people the second things go **** up - which is probably before the end of this week. And the only way to avoid this is US aid.
• There is no way the pedophiles base will accept the US giving aid - America First and all that.

The oil companies are already making a fortune. Not sure they will be willing to risk it all on this particular punt.

 

[RCAB]

We got there eventually.





You're not politically progressive.

Like I said .. I don't think he reads his own posts. Probably happens when your posting every two minutes of the day.

 

[ams4crows]

NATO are about to have a meeting where they tell Denmark to give Greenland to the US because they've all received threats from the US individually that if followed through would disadvantage them all.

 

[faible]

I wasnt responding to that point. I was responding to the point where you said this poster mostly only posts right wing opinions.

We end up right back here:

We can go round and round in circles where you do this highly reductive thing and reply to something that really wasn't said, or we can simply not waste the time and energy when we both know you'll keep doing it.

 

[RCAB]

So you don't know what 'politically progressive' is without Wikipedia?

Why bring it up then?

Why? You said Wikipedia was moderated by left extremists ideologues, what better place to find out about political progressiveness then source the source itself?

 

[ferball]

Look at the biggest social issues since Occupy Wall St conveniently disappeared and the extreme reactions from both political persuasions and you'll see what I mean. It's all just a big distraction for the masses though.

To be fair there is some truth in this.

 

[RCAB]

NATO are about to have a meeting where they tell Denmark to give Greenland to the US because they've all received threats from the US individually that if followed through would disadvantage them all.

I haven't seen this reported anywhere

 

[QuietB]

And they do not distribute the proceeds any better than Venezuela.

 

[faible]

To be fair there is some truth in this.

Definitely, the biggest proponents of the whole identity politics thing are the MAGA movement though. They've used the strategy very effectively whilst shouting about THE WOKE LEFT using it, even though it was always MAGA using it.

 

[Zidane98]

It wasn't the oil execs that knew about Maduro going down first:




Trump showing who his mates are.


Also of note: Putin is a dictator in a state with massive oil reserves. The chances of Trump giving Putin the Maduro treatment are about -0.0001%.

 

[Baldur]

You were clearly alluding to it in your first post about this. Or were you referencing the Democrat mayor of Grand Rapids?



Pretty much all news is some kind of propaganda. Apologies if I was wrong wzzm13.com but it's very difficult to find an unbiased news source. I've looked into it and it's deemed centre, so maybe I'll check it out more.

Having said that, the thumbnail for rawstory.com proudly claims 'Anti-Trump critic', which is clearly framing the situation as her being arrested because she's anti-trump, not becuase she was blocking the road. It's a leftist source according to allsides.com(https://www.allsides.com/news-source/raw-story-media-bias) and anything left or right will frame their stories to incite support, thus propaganda.



Yes, in accordance with the law, which you are not allowed to break.



Well clearly they had a reason. Wouldn't be the first time a protest leader provoked police to get arrested to martyr themselves. This stuff happens all the time.



As I wasn't there(neither were you) we have to rely on what the news sources say. The fact of the matter is you can see many of the protestors on the road in the first screenshot of the video, so clearly there were people on the road, which isn't protected by the 1st amendment.



Again, I don't know the ins and outs of protest law in the USA and I'm presuming you don't either, I'm theorising what could have happened.



I vote for the Greens mate. How am I right wing?

This is simple lefist ideology. Anyone who doesn't think the exact same way they do are immediately branded right-wing.

"Nothing to see here, US Demockracy in action" That's my comment, clearly a comment in relation to my opinion as to democracy in the US being a joke. Nothing whatsoever about the Trump admin arresting her.

The Raw Story article the one you call out for propaganda simply accurately reports on the news video and adds the following headline "Trump critic cuffed on camera immediately after speaking out against US raid". She is a Trump critic, she was arrested immediately after the interview when she spoke about the raid. So for you its bullshit propaganda if its a left wing publication regardless of the content.

Well yes they had a reason, that's not in issue, was it a legitimate reason? That's another matter. Nothing in the video we saw shows her provoking the officers, she is not even facing them as they approach her.

Yes there were people on the road, but they were not the ones arrested. Police cannot break up a protest unless it meets the criteria for immediate danger or traffic interference. Here it appears the police are using the traffic inference card. Protesters who refuse to obey a lawful dispersal order after receiving adequate warning can face arrest. But the one person we see arrested was on the sideway, speaking to media.

So the only protestor we can be certain obeyed said instruction if indeed it was given, was the one arrested. Immediately after being critical of Trump.

Your very sentence about leftist ideology proves you are right wing. If every post is parroting right wing points, the poster is right wing. If it quacks like a duck, its a duck.

 

[bourbons]

It's not "the quiet part" anymore. Imperialism and authoritarianism is cool again.

Absolutely mental how MAGA just pretzel themselves into the appropriate compliant configuration no matter what it is that dear leader does.

They all, to a man, would have been staunchly non-interventionist this time last year.

 

[faible]

Absolutely mental how MAGA just pretzel themselves into the appropriate compliant configuration no matter what it is that dear leader does.

They all, to a man, would have been staunchly non-interventionist this time last year.

I was assured Trump was the no wars President and that's why they liked him better than the warmongering Harris.

 

[bzparkes]

"Nothing to see here, US Demockracy in action" That's my comment, clearly a comment in relation to my opinion as to democracy in the US being a joke. Nothing whatsoever about the Trump admin arresting her.

Fair enough, my mistake.

The Raw Story article the one you call out for propaganda simply accurately reports on the news video and adds the following headline "Trump critic cuffed on camera immediately after speaking out against US raid". She is a Trump critic, she was arrested immediately after the interview when she spoke about the raid. So for you its bullshit propaganda if its a left wing publication regardless of the content.

The framing is put in a way that any criticism of Trump will get you arrested. That's how this kind of propaganda works. Compare that to the other article where they clearly state what the protest was about and why she was arrested.

It's exactly the same how stations like CNN label any source that doesn't align with their political ideology right-wing, same goes for Fox News and the likes. Both sides frame and sensationalize the news in a way that they align with politically instead of simply giving the facts.

MSM is nothing but propaganda at this stage.

Well yes they had a reason, that's not in issue, was it a legitimate reason? That's another matter. Nothing in the video we saw shows her provoking the officers, she is not even facing them as they approach her.

Again, would need to see footage of the entire protest, not a short edited clip. I agree, it is entirely possible some gung-ho cop wanted his 5 minutes of fame. I don't discount that.

Yes there were people on the road, but they were not the ones arrested. Police cannot break up a protest unless it meets the criteria for immediate danger or traffic interference. Here it appears the police are using the traffic inference card. Protesters who refuse to obey a lawful dispersal order after receiving adequate warning can face arrest. But the one person we see arrested was on the sideway, speaking to media.

Maybe she was on the road talking shit to them and they got vindictive and arrested her on a technicality. It's possible.

So the only protestor we can be certain obeyed said instruction if indeed it was given, was the one arrested. Immediately after being critical of Trump.

How can we be certain when we haven't seen the entire protest in full, just a curated edit of it?

Your very sentence about leftist ideology proves you are right wing. If every post is parroting right wing points, the poster is right wing. If it quacks like a duck, its a duck.

I'm not right wing but if you can't reconcile that not everyone 'belongs' to the 'right' or 'left', that's your problem to deal with.

 

[RCAB]

Absolutely mental how MAGA just pretzel themselves into the appropriate compliant configuration no matter what it is that dear leader does.

They all, to a man, would have been staunchly non-interventionist this time last year.

Believe it or not, this MAGA movement gained the most momentum when Jordan Peterson convinced many, that using pro-nouns was going to destroy free speech and western society as we know it.

Now he we are cheering on fascism. Apparently it's cool to Nick Fuentes.

 

[Festerz]

Reckon Jon Stewart enjoyed this way too much.

 

[10571z]

So Biden's bounty worked because Venezuelans left Venezuela?

Err no, because it didn’t stop the Maduro..

 

[10571z]

Yes exactly, that someone else would - because he knew that the US military launching strikes on a foreign sovereign nation and kidnapping the bloke along with his wife probably wasn't the best idea. This isn't complicated mate, despite your best efforts to make it so.

Yet again, just mind boggling false equivalence on display. Its a bodily function for you at this point.

What was the right legal way for a 25 million bounty to work? Who was suppose to carry it out?

Is it even legal for the USA to place bounty’s on international leaders?

 

[76woodenspooners]

It wasn't the oil execs that knew about Maduro going down first:




Trump showing who his mates are.


Also of note: Putin is a dictator in a state with massive oil reserves. The chances of Trump giving Putin the Maduro treatment are about -0.0001%.

Russia would have seen the large buildup of US military assets off the coast of Venezuela so they could take an educated guess about what was going to happen next.

Same happened with Ukraine. The US could see exactly what Russia were doing in the build up to the invasion.

 

[faible]

Believe it or not, this MAGA movement gained the most momentum when Jordan Peterson convinced many, that using pro-nouns was going to destroy free speech and western society as we know it.

Now he we are cheering on fascism. Apparently it's cool to Nick Fuentes.

Was Peterson the one with the whole lobster analogy thing?

 

[76woodenspooners]

What was the right legal way for a 25 million bounty to work? Who was suppose to carry it out?

Is it even legal for the USA to place bounty’s on international leaders?

Dunno, but from the US point of view it’s moot because they do not recognise Maduro as being an “international leader”. They (under Biden) never recognized that he was the legitimate winner of the 2024 election.

 

[RCAB]

Reckon Jon Stewart enjoyed this way too much.

bzparkes and 10571z

 

[King Patty]

Was Peterson the one with the whole lobster analogy thing?