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Thanks all.

 

[Festerz]

Yeah, fair.

My point still stands.

Only if you have a warped set of values and couldn't give a flying toss about the future of the planet.

Trump got to be President twice due to his bank balance and because he is a pathological liar and grifter who financiallly rewards those who support him. He rewards them using other people's money garnered from punching down on those who are unable to defend themselves.

Most parents don't don't want their kids to be selfish maniacal narcissistic assholes like Trump.

YMMV of course.

 

[Baldur]

The US market exodus could only just be starting, strategists warn

Analysts warn of higher market turbulence after Donald Trump flagged punitive taxes on European goods as the battle over the future of Greenland escalated.

www.afr.com

Amid global gold rush, India and China are dumping US treasuries

Central banks, led by India and China, are significantly reducing US Treasury holdings and increasing gold reserves. This strategic shift reflects a move towards diversification and risk management amid global economic and geopolitical uncertainties. Gold's role as a strategic reserve asset is...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

US treasuries being sold off, gold and silver up. Here is the reason I believe Trumps billionaire backers told him to back off on Greenland. If the EU, Japan and China began to seriously dump US treasuries, it would be over for the US. The EU was threatening to do this. They already spend more on interest on their debt then defense.

If they are unable the roll the current debt over, let alone sell more, the government would have to increase taxes and lower spending. That's the good money manager response. Who knows what Trump and the voodoo US right will do.

I believe the US is approaching their 1956 Suez moment, when their creditors tell them what to do or else. Eden know what he had to do and kneeled to the US demand. Will Trump kneel to say Chinese demands?

Basically in the long run a debtor nation must do what their creditors demand. Is US arrogance too great to accept this?

 

[troybe]

He’s not the leader of a free country, let alone the free world.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Only if you have a warped set of values and couldn't give a flying toss about the future of the planet.

Trump got to be President twice due to his bank balance and because he is a pathological liar and grifter who financiallly rewards those who support him. He rewards them using other people's money garnered from punching down on those who are unable to defend themselves.

Most parents don't don't want their kids to be selfish maniacal narcissistic assholes like Trump.

YMMV of course.

I don’t think we’re disagreeing?

 

[Visions]

Another bulltish statement made hoping people will forget about in 2 weeks time

So he has nothing and never will. Got it.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Yes there are and they can do nothing to Trump. Is the International Court of Justice going to send armed commandos to arrest him?

Congress could, but won't. Its a crime, so what, so is launching a coup, taking classified documents, interfering in the Georgia election, taking bribes from governments like planes or gold bars, taking bribes for pardons. In any event the Supreme court gave him immunity for much of it.

I still see all those commentators go on and on about this illegal action or that illegal action. They could not even manage to convict him and jail him before he was president again. Anybody thinking the law is going to punish him is living in a fantasy world.

They can freeze his assets. You are aware of that right? If Trump holds that several Billion Dollars in offshore accounts in non government controlled accounts, they can freeze them. Obviously there is a lot of water that goes under the bridge. But if he takes money and thinks he can use his white house position with no government oversight then he is seriously mistaken. Especially when the USA will be held to account in the UN.

 

[sdfc]

The US market exodus could only just be starting, strategists warn

Analysts warn of higher market turbulence after Donald Trump flagged punitive taxes on European goods as the battle over the future of Greenland escalated.

www.afr.com

Amid global gold rush, India and China are dumping US treasuries

Central banks, led by India and China, are significantly reducing US Treasury holdings and increasing gold reserves. This strategic shift reflects a move towards diversification and risk management amid global economic and geopolitical uncertainties. Gold's role as a strategic reserve asset is...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

US treasuries being sold off, gold and silver up. Here is the reason I believe Trumps billionaire backers told him to back off on Greenland. If the EU, Japan and China began to seriously dump US treasuries, it would be over for the US. The EU was threatening to do this. They already spend more on interest on their debt then defense.

If they are unable the roll the current debt over, let alone sell more, the government would have to increase taxes and lower spending. That's the good money manager response. Who knows what Trump and the voodoo US right will do.

I believe the US is approaching their 1956 Suez moment, when their creditors tell them what to do or else. Eden know what he had to do and kneeled to the US demand. Will Trump kneel to say Chinese demands?

Basically in the long run a debtor nation must do what their creditors demand. Is US arrogance too great to accept this?

The Fed would probably step in to provide a bid if things got ugly in the Treasury market I reckon. I doubt that would happen anyway.

I wonder what the Chinese appetite would be for a stronger Renminbi?

The US isn't the only government in debt to its eyeballs or the only one to be borrowing to pay interest.

 

[Baldur]

They can freeze his assets. You are aware of that right? If Trump holds that several Billion Dollars in offshore accounts in non government controlled accounts, they can freeze them. Obviously there is a lot of water that goes under the bridge. But if he takes money and thinks he can use his white house position with no government oversight then he is seriously mistaken. Especially when the USA will be held to account in the UN.

Who is this "They", whoever "They" are I wish them luck.

Who knows where is assets will end up, but they will not be in some simple bank account in Brussels under his name. At a guess maybe in the name of companies under the nominal control of his son in law in Qatar, or some haven for dirty money.

As for the USA being held to account in the UN, please. I veto your whatever.

But we are wasting our time arguing about it, he will be dead long before it matters. At that time there will be all sorts of legal cases about who gets what.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Who is this "They", whoever "They" are I wish them luck.

As for the USA being held to account in the UN, please. I veto your whatever.

Financial Intelligence Units (FIUs)​

Every major country has one. They exchange information when large or suspicious cross-border transfers occur.

Egmont Group​

• A global network connecting FIUs
• Allows confidential sharing of intelligence on suspicious accounts

FATF (Financial Action Task Force)​

• Sets global anti-money-laundering standards
• Doesn’t investigate individuals directly, but its rules force countries and banks to scrutinize activity like this

There is a lot of water to go under the bridge. So im not fooled into thinking next week this will all occur. Its likely to be a long drawn out process if it even happens at all. All I am saying is this

Trump plans on charging countries billions of dollars to be on this board and he is using the white house. There only issue is he has issued no executive order which he could have, but it would have meant government oversight. This immediately opens up a lot of questions. This only got announced for the first time it appears 5 days ago. Congress has had no time to demand answers yet. But if he takes private money under the guise of access to the white house and his control then thats a problem.

 

[Baldur]

Financial Intelligence Units (FIUs)​

Every major country has one. They exchange information when large or suspicious cross-border transfers occur.

Egmont Group​

• A global network connecting FIUs
• Allows confidential sharing of intelligence on suspicious accounts

FATF (Financial Action Task Force)​

• Sets global anti-money-laundering standards
• Doesn’t investigate individuals directly, but its rules force countries and banks to scrutinize activity like this

There is a lot of water to go under the bridge. So im not fooled into thinking next week this will all occur. Its likely to be a long drawn out process if it even happens at all. All I am saying is this

Trump plans on charging countries billions of dollars to be on this board and he is using the white house. There only issue is he has issued no executive order which he could have, but it would have meant government oversight. This immediately opens up a lot of questions. This only got announced for the first time it appears 5 days ago. Congress has had no time to demand answers yet. But if he takes private money under the guise of access to the white house and his control then thats a problem.

The statement I have issue with is that Trump will be in serious trouble. Yea nuh.

He will be dead long before the very very slow wheels of international justice even begin to grind. Even if not, his very expensive lawyers wheels the by now clearly demented man into court in a wheel chair, with doctors reports by the zillion that he is mentally incapable.

Then there will be long expensive court cases about the assets.

 

[adelaidecrows]

The statement I have issue with is that Trump will be in serious trouble. Yea nuh.

He will be dead long before the very very slow wheels of international justice even begin to grind. Even if not, his very expensive lawyers wheels the by now clearly demented man into court in a wheel chair, with doctors reports by the zillion that he is mentally incapable.

Then there will be long expensive court cases about the assets.

I get the 'he is untouchable' rhetoric i dont blame you for the doubt. And I agree. AActually id go one step further. Even if he was still alive by the time the law catches up with him he will be deemed unfit to stand trial anyway. So what I think I am arguing more is the most likely scenario is that this board could be the straw that breaks the camels back and prompts congress into kicking his arse out. They wont take to kindly to being circumvented.

 

[Baldur]

I get the 'he is untouchable' rhetoric i dont blame you for the doubt. And I agree. AActually id go one step further. Even if he was still alive by the time the law catches up with him he will be deemed unfit to stand trial anyway. So what I think I am arguing more is the most likely scenario is that this board could be the straw that breaks the camels back and prompts congress into kicking his arse out. They wont take to kindly to being circumvented.

They are already being circumvented. The money from the oil being taken from the tankers the US navy seizes are going into a Qatar account that Trump says he is using for the benefit of Venezuela. I would not trust Trump with a kids piggy bank, how much of that money will vanish in service fees to companies connected to his son in law.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/15/business/qatar-venezuela-oil-sale-account

“There is no basis in law for a president to set up an offshore account that he controls so that he can sell assets seized by the American military,” said Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a Massachusetts Democrat, in a comment to Semafor, which first reported the money going to Qatar. “That is precisely a move that a corrupt politician would be attracted to.”

Congress will spinelessly allow him to steal whatever he wants, as long as he does not steal from their personal accounts or from their billionaire backers.

 

[Satan]

 

[adelaidecrows]

I find it interesting the lack of push back on his claims medicines all over the world is increasing so the USA can be charged less. France outright denies this claim. I just dont understand why this guy is continually allowed to bullshit?

 

[Visions]

it's not merely the doj, it's rampant in the orange assholes whole administration.



100%

He can't even get the facts about his "fake" polls correct. The optimistic ones have him the low 40's, the remaining have him in the 30's.

Also if there are "great" polls with the biggest bestest numbers you will ever see lying around, maybe he can release what those numbers are and who commissioned then? The figments of his dementia mind aren't allowable as a source.

 

[adelaidecrows]

They are already being circumvented. The money from the oil being taken from the tankers the US navy seizes are going into a Qatar account that Trump says he is using for the benefit of Venezuela. I would not trust Trump with a kids piggy bank, how much of that money will vanish in service fees to companies connected to his son in law.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/15/business/qatar-venezuela-oil-sale-account

“There is no basis in law for a president to set up an offshore account that he controls so that he can sell assets seized by the American military,” said Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a Massachusetts Democrat, in a comment to Semafor, which first reported the money going to Qatar. “That is precisely a move that a corrupt politician would be attracted to.”

Congress will spinelessly allow him to steal whatever he wants, as long as he does not steal from their personal accounts.

Yes but all this came during congress winter break and the board which no one knew about came from nowhere aside from being briefly mentioned in september. But the board is being sold as a private initiative and Trump himself has said he wants to remain in control post his presidency. This is a huge flag. Like its not even close.

The only reason I would say congress havent mentioned anything is because impeachment talks are already underway behind close doors and also a few proposing the 25th amendment as well.

I also wonder if Trump knows this so he is looking to create a venture to get out. That money he is raising looks like it could be for development.

 

[adelaidecrows]

The weird observation I continue to see when watching Trump supporters from around the world keep saying that they think Trump has done a lot of good things, is they cant actually say anything he has done well that is evidence based. Everything is 'trump said' This is a result of pathetic bend the knee media who normalised all this bullshit.

And now Trump walks into conferences, says some of the most absurd bullshit on the planet and the media go...'oh well we didnt see that coming'. Oh well.

Like come on. You encouraged this, you promoted this. You bent the knee. Yet once Trump is gone, you will tear into everything that MAGA stand for with no fear and pretend to stand on top of this moral high clud like they are this superior media body who held the republicans to account. What a joke.

 

[Visions]

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Donny really pulled in the Big Guns for his Board of Peace. I count $22B straight into Trump’s pocket with absolutely no oversight

It will be like a Russian led CIS organisation. Meaningless.

 

[Baldur]

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Donny really pulled in the Big Guns for his Board of Peace. I count $22B straight into Trump’s pocket with absolutely no oversight

Not really all into Trumps pocket. Assuming they all paid. $22B from the government's of 22 corrupt nations. All the leaders no doubt will be eager to pocket of much of it for themselves. Trump will get his share for enabling their corruption and those who want some favor now while he is president will allow him to have more. The money will disappear into service fees, design fees, consultants etc to companies connected to the various corrupt leaders.

 

[rumply]

 

[adelaidecrows]

I think there comes a time where the world needs to freeze a leader out and that's Trump. No longer should the USA be entertained. Simply tell congress sorry all your bases around the world needs to close. Your ships are no longer welcome in our harbours until you remove Trump. He is doing too much damage now with no accountability.

 

[rumply]

 

[Baldur]

When his farm goes under, the Vance connected company Arcetraders will buy it. Somehow I doubt they will have issues keeping ICE away.

 

[Paul Kersey]

****ing pig of a bloke. Can't wait until he dies.

 

[RCAB]

Who would've thought that in 2026, Nazi Germany was going to repeat in the USA.



Reminds me of what Nazi ideology early did by infecting kids. Jewish, Roma (gypsies), disabled and non-comforming kids were all bullied by other kids.

Totalitarianism ultimately succeeds if kids learn fear before they learn empathy, this is where the US is right now and it could get much worse before it gets better.