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jess_555 said:
I am also hoping that Grima will be staying. I don't understand how/why/WHYYYYYYYYYY they would not keep him. I don't get it! I really thought he would be playing some senior games in 08 (if the Hawk or Nate were injured). Grrrrrrr If he is gone from the GFC I am absolutely shattered for him. :eek:
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It's absolute bullshit. Unless he has up a price on his head or something???
 

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Re: Is it the end for Grima at the Cats?

catempire said:
Say we delist Owen, Spencer and Sam Hunt.

We've then got 7 spots on our list (with H, King, Gardiner and Callan gone too).

We're promoting Lonergan and Davenport which leaves 5.

Our last pick is Donohue, so that's our 5th pick - 62.

That makes it virtually a choice between Grima and our second last pick - our 4th pick - 50.

Wells et al will make the call on whether we are likely to get something better than Grima with pick 50.

I have my doubts on whether 50 is likely to be better than Grima, but I put my full faith in Wells and the team.
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Can you please forward next Saturdays Tatts Nos.:)
On a more serious note,the delistings announced today leaves us with 4 live picks. I have no doubt that Wells and Co. would have been aware by Rd 14-15 that would be very low in the pecking order in this years Draft.
As such they would have been scouting for hidden gems for quite a long time.I'm sure that we will be wondering who some of our picks are (remember Mackie ) but have no fear,we have some of the best talent recruiters in the business.
 
Obviously the TPP cap is very tight, think Owen is still a chance to be picked up in the Rookie draft.
Grima is unfortunate to be inbetween sizes,not big enough for KP and too slow for a flanker.
Think they are trying to fit Tenace in by creating some spare $.[/quote]

Sarah, why keep Tenace?? I have no idea really. Davenport kicks his arse already in pace and skills.

Tenace is still under contract, however needs to improve quite a lot as I can see his spot being overtaken by either Varcoe, Pris and/or eventually Davenport.
 
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sarah.13 said:
Can you please forward next Saturdays Tatts Nos.:)
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3, 6, 11, 14, 20 and 29.

Oh wait, they're just my favourite Cats players. :p

sarah.13 said:
On a more serious note,the delistings announced today leaves us with 4 live picks. I have no doubt that Wells and Co. would have been aware by Rd 14-15 that would be very low in the pecking order in this years Draft.
As such they would have been scouting for hidden gems for quite a long time.I'm sure that we will be wondering who some of our picks are (remember Mackie ) but have no fear,we have some of the best talent recruiters in the business.
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Agree. We have to back our recruiting team in here.

Runs. On. Board.

As for Grima, he's a tad stiff, but he could still get a gig elsewhere. He just wasn't a high-level need for us.
 
thegerman said:
Obviously the TPP cap is very tight, think Owen is still a chance to be picked up in the Rookie draft.
Grima is unfortunate to be inbetween sizes,not big enough for KP and too slow for a flanker.
Think they are trying to fit Tenace in by creating some spare $.
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Sarah, why keep Tenace?? I have no idea really. Davenport kicks his arse already in pace and skills.

Tenace is still under contract, however needs to improve quite a lot as I can see his spot being overtaken by either Varcoe, Pris and/or eventually Davenport.[/quote]


Tenace is out of contact.
 
tin can sam said:
Why do we have 5 picks in the National draft, and four rookie picks, when this is supposed to be a weak draft?
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Who should we have kept?

Some successful teams fall into the trap of not continuing to turn their list over and look to the future. We're not falling for that by cutting dead wood. It's a good move.

Glassjaw said:
He's bigger than Fevola.
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He doesn't play that big though. At AFL level, it's hard to see him bustling against the likes of Glass and Rutten.
 
tin can sam said:
Why do we have 5 picks in the National draft, and four rookie picks, when this is supposed to be a weak draft?
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Apart from Grima,who of the traded or delisted players was worth keeping ?

Callan was never going to get a fair run at Geelong.The others are easily replaceable.
 

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jess_555 said:
I am also hoping that Grima will be staying. I don't understand how/why/WHYYYYYYYYYY they would not keep him. I don't get it! I really thought he would be playing some senior games in 08 (if the Hawk or Nate were injured). Grrrrrrr If he is gone from the GFC I am absolutely shattered for him. :eek:
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Agreed! He was my favourite rookie, grrrr! :mad:
Grima was really great and we're getting a little too big for our boots if we don't think we need Grima as depth or that he's not good enough.
I'm not very happy that we kept Tenace and delisted Grima...
Hopefully Owen will be re-rookied as he's now my #1 hottest at the club... and that's a bit rough delisting him after injuring his ACL.
-officially the end of Mrs. Hethrew Plancer since both have been delisted/traded-
 
thegerman said:
Sarah, why keep Tenace?? I have no idea really. Davenport kicks his arse already in pace and skills.

Tenace is still under contract, however needs to improve quite a lot as I can see his spot being overtaken by either Varcoe, Pris and/or eventually Davenport.
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Tenace is uncontracted at this stage. This year he played as many games as the 7 delisted players combined.
At the start of the year he was being groomed as the running back,link player. Was stiff to cop a hamstring injury during the pre-season which interrupted his preparation.
Came back and played some useful games then re-injured himself.
If he can have an injury free year he is definitely in Bombers plans. I rate him a better player than Byrnes and D.J. and adds good depth as our 22-26 best player.
 
Rather surprised we have removed 5 players over 190 cm 3 of them being backmen leaving us with few options in backline if injuries become a problem next year. Thought keeping either H or Hunt as a backup would have given a little insurance.
No draft pick is going to be ready to fill a key position for 2 or 3 years
 
As one of the many internet experts, I can't believe Grima hasn't been promoted.

Decent height for a FF, and still young, Todd had time to mature and show improvement. If for example he was was promoted and given a two year contract, the club, in the worst case senario (ie. if Grima didn't make it), could at least say that it gave the kid a chance.

That improvement could have come down back or deep in the forward line. As others have mentioned, we cut a fair bit of our tall defensive back-ups (SHunt, Spencer, Playfair).

This one doesn't make sense.
 
tiredcat said:
Rather surprised we have removed 5 players over 190 cm 3 of them being backmen leaving us with few options in backline if injuries become a problem next year. Thought keeping either H or Hunt as a backup would have given a little insurance.
No draft pick is going to be ready to fill a key position for 2 or 3 years
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I can see your point, but none of those players were up to replacing Scarlett and Harley when they retire in 2-4 years time.
Our current squad will have us up there till that happens. We need to prepare now for when that happens. We need to find some first grade talent that will step up when that happens.
At this stage we have Harley, Scarlett,Egan, Lonergan, Milburn, Mackie (192cm) and Possibly S.Thompson from the draft.
 
Re: Is it the end for Grima at the Cats?

catempire said:
As for Grima, he's a tad stiff, but he could still get a gig elsewhere. He just wasn't a high-level need for us.
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We're not talking about Gardiner or Playfair here, we're talking about an unknown quantity who in a couple of years could be very good. He perhaps could've gotten a shot next year if those in front of him were to be injured or out of form.

Say the club promoted him and then delisted him in a couple of years - at least they gave him every chance of making it rather than allowing him to go some other club and kicking ar$e for that team.
 

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Re: Is it the end for Grima at the Cats?

geelong_boy said:
We're not talking about Gardiner or Playfair here, we're talking about an unknown quantity who in a couple of years could be very good. He perhaps could've gotten a shot next year if those in front of him were to be injured or out of form.

Say the club promoted him and then delisted him in a couple of years - at least they gave him every chance of making it rather than allowing him to go some other club and kicking ar$e for that team.
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Got to trust the call that's been made.

We haven't been burned too often on these types of decisions.
 
Re: Is it the end for Grima at the Cats?

My thought is that he's been offered another gig at another club on fairly high wages. Maybe the Dogs? So he's guaranteed a game round 1 and on better wages than he'd get with us. I think thats what's happened
 
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Stokes-Selwood-Prismall said:
My thought is that he's been offered another gig at another club on fairly high wages. Maybe the Dogs? So he's guaranteed a game round 1 and on better wages than he'd get with us. I think thats what's happened
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That can't happen. He's a delisted rookie so he goes into the draft - no doubt he'll be picked up but no club can guarantee it.

I'm a bit surprised by not elevating him, but I do trust the club to make the right decisions. Who knows, they may even pick him themselves if he's still available.
 
tiredcat said:
Rather surprised we have removed 5 players over 190 cm 3 of them being backmen leaving us with few options in backline if injuries become a problem next year. Thought keeping either H or Hunt as a backup would have given a little insurance.
No draft pick is going to be ready to fill a key position for 2 or 3 years
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Height is one thing talent is another. We have enough backup. We lost our tallest defender before the finals and didnt miss him. Add Lonegan in and you have the height required. None of those chopped were going to get near the best 30 players. Thompson may well get selected.

for some scary reason I have the thought that GFC may pick L Whitnall as a uncontracted player...god knows why but it sits in the scary depths of the beer shriveled sections of the mind
 
sarah.13 said:
Tenace is uncontracted at this stage. This year he played as many games as the 7 delisted players combined.
At the start of the year he was being groomed as the running back,link player. Was stiff to cop a hamstring injury during the pre-season which interrupted his preparation.
Came back and played some useful games then re-injured himself.
If he can have an injury free year he is definitely in Bombers plans. I rate him a better player than Byrnes and D.J. and adds good depth as our 22-26 best player.
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Probably agree with you there, I do like Tenace more than Byrnes, however I do rate DJ higher than both. Plus DJ will play a different spot to both, and I believe he has more ability to put his body on the line.

Tenace really has to get a wriggle on, I can see a number of players looking at his spot in or around the best 22-26 range.

I agree with other posters, that I found it weird to get rid of H, Hunt and Spencer all at once. Would rather have kept H for just in case, and then get rid of the rest.

If Tenace is uncontracted, will he look elsewhere ??

Just for my info, probably others too, is the PSD prior to the draft ??
 

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