Roast A bit of perspective

[Ford Fairlane]

By February you could throw that blanket over pretty much everything. Did you know Chad was traded to the Hawks and plays video games? #slidingdoors

I had heard something about that. Dont know where

 

[King_Tredrea]

Look and outside of that, there's also the fact that you only really know your opinions when you have to defend them.

I know more about football from arguing with people on this forum than I otherwise would because we have lots of intelligent people on this board who make strong, well reasoned arguments and if I disagree with them i'd better know what i'm talking about.

I understand the game, what Port Adelaide are doing and why we're doing it a lot better because i've got into some pretty in depth and sometimes heated discussions on here about it. We all learn from each other, see different perspectives, and have our football beliefs forged and tested in the fire of differing opinions.

Talking footy at the sort of shallow level you'd get at the watercooler at your workplace doesn't do a lot for me.

If people at work etc try and engage me in football discussion these days I just ask them to produce their club membership card.

No card, no chatter.

 

[TheFVK]

It´s a fine balance between holding our own club to high standards (which most would argue has underpinned our success) and as a supporter base giving the club the required support to help it achieve this success.

Tactical ruthlessness (i.e. sacking all time club great Russell Ebert as coach for John Cahill) = good
Idiotic ruthlessness (i.e. spending 3 million of desperately needed funds to sack a coach a couple years ahead of his contract) = bad

Constructive high standards (i.e. not being satisfied with being the big fish in a small pond that was the SANFL) = good
Destructive high standards (i.e. not renewing ones membership and crippling the club´s financial options to do anything about it in the process) = bad

 

[Shaxx Attaxx]

Way too many knee jerk nuff posts on the Port board these days. No mention of playing RODIN or BMT either!

 

[scotty13]

It´s a fine balance between holding our own club to high standards (which most would argue has underpinned our success) and as a supporter base giving the club the required support to help it achieve this success.

Tactical ruthlessness (i.e. sacking all time club great Russell Ebert as coach for John Cahill) = good
Idiotic ruthlessness (i.e. spending 3 million of desperately needed funds to sack a coach a couple years ahead of his contract) = bad

Hang on... Ebert being sacked was a big issue at the club... favourite son being tolf to F.off... hindsight says that maybe it was the right decision... but having said that... the Tactical ruthlessness of appointing 2 captains = good is still an option.. doesnt mean we have to like of support it.

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

Talking footy at the sort of shallow level you'd get at the watercooler at your workplace doesn't do a lot for me.

I always find that the a lot of the people I converse with in real life about footy don’t seem to follow it that closely and I feel that it’s secondary to most of them. To say I appreciate the odd few I’ve spoken to that actually know what they’re talking about would be an understatement.

Some of them only care when your team loses so they can give you shit.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I always find that the a lot of the people I converse with in real life about footy don’t seem to follow it that closely and I feel that it’s secondary to most of them. To say I appreciate the odd few I’ve spoken to that actually know what they’re talking about would be an understatement.

Some of them only care when your team loses so they can give you shit.

It's definitely tough being well known as a supporter at your work place, because as you say, people who have never talked about footy before come out of the woodwork when your team loses.

It's nice to have somewhere to come and speak with other supporters in more depth.

 

[TheFVK]

Hang on... Ebert being sacked was a big issue at the club... favourite son being tolf to F.off... hindsight says that maybe it was the right decision... but having said that... the Tactical ruthlessness of appointing 2 captains = good is still an option.. doesnt mean we have to like of support it.

That's why it's a balance, things aren't usually black and white. Need to find the ground between razing the club/salting the fields and tattooing the Jim Jones' creed to our forehead.

 

[Tredz]

FWIW (probably not very much) but, here's my take;

I am a member and supporter of the Port Adelaide Football Club - my job is to 'support' the club. That doesn't mean I have to 'agree' however with every or any particular decision and/or action the club undertakes.
There are individuals at the club who are charged with making decisions and they do so with information that I may not be privy to. As a supporter and member I can formulate my own thoughts on the merits and drawbacks of various decisions (and I do so with the knowledge that I may have an incomplete knowledge or understanding of all the facts). I can then, when appropriate, voice and debate those merits and drawbacks of a decision with others here and elsewhere. Here's the rub however - as a 'supporter' it is my personal belief that I have the right to do so only up until the time that a decision is made by those whose stewardship and responsibility it is to make the decision. Once a decision is made, whether I agree with it or not, I view my job then (as a member and supporter) is to do my very best in action, word and/or deed to ensure those decisions are as successful as possible.

Go Ports!

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Hang on... Ebert being sacked was a big issue at the club... favourite son being tolf to F.off... hindsight says that maybe it was the right decision... but having said that... the Tactical ruthlessness of appointing 2 captains = good is still an option.. doesnt mean we have to like of support it.

Maybe it was the right decision?

88,89,90,92,94,95,96 says it was the right decision.

We exist to win premierships.

 

[yepits2020]

Since 2014 we've finished 9th, 10th, embarrassing finals exit and 10th. If you're satisfied with that, post all the positivity you want. That's not the PAFC I grew up supporting.

Being unhappy with the above and sh@t posting are two different things. I am just a supporter who makes observations and suggestions for improvement. I try hard not to just drop sh@t on everything.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Being unhappy with the above and sh@t posting are two different things. I am just a supporter who makes observations and suggestions for improvement. I try hard not to just drop sh@t on everything.

Good post

 

[Macca19]

All i will say is there is far too much positivity shaming that goes on. Looking glass half full doesnt mean anyone is happy with our situation. Noone is. But people shouldnt be made to feel bad, or heavily criticised if they want to find a positive or find a solution to our situation.

To quote some w***er....we need balance!

 

[Willsy10]

I'm more of an in season melter, i hate losing games of footy, but please let me believe that everything will be okay this year in February FFS. Honestly, if you can't have some hope in February you may as well give up.

 

[Willsy10]

Last year we were printing premiership T Shirts in February, which was equally as bizarre as the doomsday shit we've had on here this year. We are all over the shop. Was there really that much more to be excited about going into 2018 as this year?

 

[chiwigi]

All i will say is there is far too much positivity shaming that goes on. Looking glass half full doesnt mean anyone is happy with our situation. Noone is. But people shouldnt be made to feel bad, or heavily criticised if they want to find a positive or find a solution to our situation.

To quote some w***er....we need balance!

He was wrong in that and you are wrong, we need truth, not balance. Balance just give bullshit merchants more air than they deserve.

I am talking generally here, not specific to the captain thing.

 

[Doctor Feel]

You absolutely can be both. I felt that way during Primus' reign because i knew we would become good again when we had the money and appropriate resources.

But forgive me for feeling like i have fallen for broken promises year after year of Ken's reign and i am a little sceptical rather than fully hopeful this time.

The u23s game has me feeling hopeful again and i really hope it is not another illusion that will be destroyed throughout the season and some random players blamed for the destruction.

But our youth are looking very good.

I just hope to god our youth don't get ported. In other words, start brightly but then we find that their first season was their best as they sink into the Port Adelaide Funk.™

 

[OneGreatClub]

He was wrong in that and you are wrong, we need truth, not balance. Balance just give bullshit merchants more air than they deserve.

I am talking generally here, not specific to the captain thing.

Funny though how any negative comment is seen as ‘truth’ but any optimism is treated as rubbish. As Macca said, too much positivity shaming.


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[Andre]

I don't mind if people want to be positive. What rubs me the wrong way is the 'and now <insert shit decision #7431 since 2004> has been made, let's not talk about it anymore'. If Port fans didn't keep arcing up about shit decisions we'd still be PAFC and PAMFC and playing at Football Park (probably as Southern Power) or out of the league full stop. The rage must be maintained to not let Koch and co. start spinning their latest rounds of incompetence are supported or even just accepted by the fans.

 

[chiwigi]

Funny though how any negative comment is seen as ‘truth’ but any optimism is treated as rubbish. As Macca said, too much positivity shaming.


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Being asked to provide evidence as to why things are either positive or negative is not shaming.

Calling people out for being unable to provide evidence is NOT shaming.

Crying that people are shaming you because you don't have evidence is shameful.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I think positivity is fine, but talk to me about where that positivity is coming from.

If people say to me that we're going to be more attacking because of the coaches we've brought in, then talk about how Subiaco were the most attacking side by far in the WAFL in 2018, i'm listening.

If you want to argue that our list is better balanced despite losing Wingard and Polec because we've covered our biggest hole in a genuine quality backup ruck/fwd and we're effectively gaining Hartlett and Broadbent as well as our new recruits, i'm listening.

If you're going to tell me to have faith in Hinkley because the problems so far haven't been his fault and this year it's all going to magically click, i'm going to ask you to justify that position.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Someone: I reckon Ken is a coaching master and you are all completely wrong about him.
Board: That's ridiculous and here is all the evidence to the contrary.
Someone: don't be so negative farken.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

I think positivity is fine, but talk to me about where that positivity is coming from.

If people say to me that we're going to be more attacking because of the coaches we've brought in, then talk about how Subiaco were the most attacking side by far in the WAFL in 2018, i'm listening.

If you want to argue that our list is better balanced despite losing Wingard and Polec because we've covered our biggest hole in a genuine quality backup ruck/fwd and we're effectively gaining Hartlett and Broadbent as well as our new recruits, i'm listening.

If you're going to tell me to have faith in Hinkley because the problems so far haven't been his fault and this year it's all going to magically click, i'm going to ask you to justify that position.

I read that as "magically dick" then I giggled.

Carry on.

 

[Lagooner]

I just hope to god our youth don't get ported. In other words, start brightly but then we find that their first season was their best as they sink into the Port Adelaide Funk.™

Cameron Hitchcock and Jarrod Irons are Funk Squad Co-Captains.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Cameron Hitchcock and Jarrod Irons are Funk Squad Co-Captains.

SPP is currently signing the form to join the funk squad but I hope he tears it up.