Rumour Homesick 2018 Top draftee rumour

[Longmembrey]

Haven't read this whole thread, but Max King's Insta post today is interesting (along with Bytel's comment) along the lines of Brothers being more powerful together

 

[Art Corvelay]

I left to live overseas when I was 20, found it the easiest thing in the world

Good to know you’re everybody.

 

[Proper Gander]

Has this rumour been substantiated? Or is it just 6 pages of debate over the homesick concept?

 

[Dylan12]

Of course. It’s always the woman’s fault.

Did you even think about what you just posted you misogynistic tool.

Yeah I did, given I know of quite a few examples where it was Mum’s influence that their son’s returned home.

I’m guessing you don’t think there is such a thing as a Mummy’s boy either?

 

[Former Decathlete]

Mental illness isn’t always the same as mental health.

True but being 'sad' about being away from your mum aged 18 is not really a mental health issue.

 

[Former Decathlete]

Of course. It’s always the woman’s fault.

Did you even think about what you just posted you misogynistic tool.

Good point.
He could just as easily be a daddy's boy.

 

[jwikked]

True but being 'sad' about being away from your mum aged 18 is not really a mental health issue.

No, but it can contribute to it.

 

[ghostbat12]

Since when is being homesick treated like a mental illness?

Contract is a contract buddy.

 

[Ishmael_]

While I agree it's all pretty pathetic, the clubs themselves have to shoulder some of the blame. Picking the right players in the draft, with the right temperament is important. As is the atmosphere when they get there.

West Coast practically never loses interstate players. You've got Judd and Ebert in the last decade +. Judd was probably always going to go home and the club was an absolute mess at the time. Ebert is a pretty good player, but no real loss.

Brisbane shows that you can turn it around. Sydney doesn't lose players they want to keep. Gold Coast has always been a mess. It's not exactly shocking that players want to leave poorly run clubs.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

If you're going to let players dictate where they go on mental health grounds you may as well wind up Gold Coast right now.

There is an enormous difference between just being unhappy with your situation and having a serious mental health issue and the AFL has no interest in differentiating the the two.

being unhappy because:
- you'd prefer to be playing in front of 12,000 people instead of 50,000 each week;
- you aren't playing with your mate from school;
- life would be easier/cheaper if you had parents to help babysit your newborn kids;

isn't the same as having serious mental health issues. Can it lead to it in some cases? Sure, is it the case in many scenario's we've seen? I'd highly doubt it.

There are US sports where a commissioner has veto power in the interest of keeping equality in the league, why not use that here? There is just absolutely no point having a 18th team in the comp if you have no interests in trying to keep it competitive. Gold Coast currently is just a feeder team for the successful clubs of the competition to use as an incubater for elite talent.

 

[chunkylover53]

True or not the go home factor has not so quickly become the biggest joke in the game.

Putting the players, AFL and clubs at side here - wtf are these kids parents doing? I had a pretty lucky upbringing but my folks had no problems being tough, and since a young age they imprinted in my head that when I’m older and out of school I’ll be capable of going anywhere and accomplishing anything - thus I always craved that independence. I’ll teach my kids the same thing. In fact if I got drafted and rang my old man I wanted to come home he’d tell me to suck it up and give it a proper go.

Seems these parents do the complete opposite. You’re a flipping 2 hour flight away.

 

[Grave Danger]

I didn't leave home - home left me. So I didn't get homesick, but I had to learn how to cook and how to iron shirts.

 

[Davemonkey]

Top 15 is an interesting number to set the limit at.

Yep! Not Brisbane so that is a good thing.

 

[FRUMPY]

Its not homesickness, its player managers asking - where would you prefer to play? In your home state? Ok, lets say you are homesick and demand a trade. I will also get you a 4 year deal on double the small salary you are getting now - sound good? Ok, play bad footy for the next month and blame it on mental health. Ok?

 

[Alphonse_]

FYI I'd much rather play and train at The Gold Coast, than say St Kilda.

Anyone been to Moorabbin and or surrounding suburbs recently? Absolute dump.

Time AFL players and draftees put their big boy pants on, and for over protective parents (mostly Mums I suspect) to let their emotional ties go and support their lad, wherever they play.

 

[AFDogs]

FYI I'd much rather play and train at The Gold Coast, than say St Kilda.

I'm a Melbourne boy and even I agree with this. What the bloody hell could possibly be wrong with living on the Gold Coast?

I reckon it would be awesome.

 

[Alphonse_]

I'm a Melbourne boy and even I agree with this. What the bloody hell could possibly be wrong with living on the Gold Coast?

I reckon it would be awesome.

As I said before, I firmly suspect it's meddling mothers, playing emotional guilt trips on their 'boo boos' that plays a big factor for the most part.

But the fact the Brisbane Lions have had luck re-signing McLuggage and Rayner in the off-season has to give the Suns hope, get your house in order and kids stay.

FYI I think Stuart Dew is out of his depth up there, someone like Brett Ratten and his maturity and nurturing nature as coach would really help player retention up on the coast imho

 

[00Stinger]

True but being 'sad' about being away from your mum aged 18 is not really a mental health issue.

No, but any 18 year old who is struggling being away from mummy has some serious ****ing issues

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

The garden state slogan should be replaced with the mummies boys state.

Tim Kelly?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

It isn't Jordan Clark.

He's from Albany and was a pretty good and very, uh, determined footballer even when he was a teenager. He knew he'd probably move interstate for footy.

So much so that he's been in Perth for years, boarding at Hale or something, so he could play more footy for Claremont and be a better chance at selection.

Not many country lads who go to the city on scholarships end up citing homesickness. They've lived away from their parents and dealt with it by the time they're going off to Victoria.

It's usually Vic Metro pussies who want to go back to Melbourne to root all the chicks they didn't get a chance to in year 12 and big note themselves around their extended friendship group.

Immediately after being drafted, when interviewed, he said that he was glad, he wanted to get out of WA to play his footy.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Back in the days of the "appy", it could be as young as 15.
I was 17.

I was originally going to join the Navy at 14 years and 9 months as a junior recruit at HMAS Leeuwin, in WA. I never ended up doing it but left home in Geelong at 19, on the train with a duffle bag with my belongings in it and $2,000 in my wallet. My parents and my best mate dropped me at the Geelong train station on a Sunday night.

I worked in a gold mine for 2 years in the middle of nowhere in WA, starting in 1988. No fifo. My first 6 months there, I worked 13 days a fortnight, 12 hour days, I got every 2nd Sunday off. The closet decent sized place was Kalgoorlie, 400km south. Perth was an $800 round trip on an 18 seat plane, landing and taking off from dirt runways. Take off from Leinster, fly to Wiluna, fly from there to Meekatharra and then onto Perth. A return airfare from Perth to Melbourne in 1988/89 was $960, that was as cheap as you could get it. It cost me $130 to get over there on the train, I was in sit up for 3 days.

After 6 months I started doing shift work,they were a mixture of 8 and 12 hours shifts, on a Thursday, we used to do what was called a quick shift, 6am to 2pm then come back at 10pm and work until 6am, this was to transition us onto night shift. Eventually they all became 12 hour shifts, 7 days on, 3 days off, 7 nights on, 4 days off.

I eventually joined the Navy in 1992 when I was 24. Probably turned out really well doing it that way in the end.

 

[Socrates2]

A

I was originally going to join the Navy at 14 years and 9 months as a junior recruit at HMAS Leeuwin, in WA. I never ended up doing it but left home in Geelong at 19, on the train with a duffle bag with my belongings in it and $2,000 in my wallet. My parents and my best mate dropped me at the Geelong train station on a Sunday night.

I worked in a gold mine for 2 years in the middle of nowhere in WA, starting in 1988. No fifo. My first 6 months there, I worked 13 days a fortnight, 12 hour days, I got every 2nd Sunday off. The closet decent sized place was Kalgoorlie, 400km south. Perth was an $800 round trip on an 18 seat plane, landing and taking off from dirt runways. Take off from Leinster, fly to Wiluna, fly from there to Meekatharra and then onto Perth. A return airfare from Perth to Melbourne in 1988/89 was $960, that was as cheap as you could get it. It cost me $130 to get over there on the train, I was in sit up for 3 days.

After 6 months I started doing shift work,they were a mixture of 8 and 12 hours shifts, on a Thursday, we used to do what was called a quick shift, 6am to 2pm then come back at 10pm and work until 6am, this was to transition us onto night shift. Eventually they all became 12 hour shifts, 7 days on, 3 days off, 7 nights on, 4 days off.

I eventually joined the Navy in 1992 when I was 24. Probably turned out really well doing it that way in the end.

Are you still a sailor or did you leave?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

A
Are you still a sailor or did you leave?

I got out in 2002, so did 10 years.

I was an Electronic Warfare Linguist which is now called a Cryptologic Linguist. Best and most interesting job in the world (in my opinion)

 

[The Wildboar]

If you're going to let players dictate where they go on mental health grounds you may as well wind up Gold Coast right now.

There is an enormous difference between just being unhappy with your situation and having a serious mental health issue and the AFL has no interest in differentiating the the two.

being unhappy because:
- you'd prefer to be playing in front of 12,000 people instead of 50,000 each week;
- you aren't playing with your mate from school;
- life would be easier/cheaper if you had parents to help babysit your newborn kids;

isn't the same as having serious mental health issues. Can it lead to it in some cases? Sure, is it the case in many scenario's we've seen? I'd highly doubt it.

There are US sports where a commissioner has veto power in the interest of keeping equality in the league, why not use that here? There is just absolutely no point having a 18th team in the comp if you have no interests in trying to keep it competitive. Gold Coast currently is just a feeder team for the successful clubs of the competition to use as an incubater for elite talent.

New to BigFooty and have been reading my way in. This is, easily, one of the best posts I have read so far. It's spot on.

 

[TheDarkDwarf]

I was originally going to join the Navy at 14 years and 9 months as a junior recruit at HMAS Leeuwin, in WA. I never ended up doing it but left home in Geelong at 19, on the train with a duffle bag with my belongings in it and $2,000 in my wallet. My parents and my best mate dropped me at the Geelong train station on a Sunday night.

I worked in a gold mine for 2 years in the middle of nowhere in WA, starting in 1988. No fifo. My first 6 months there, I worked 13 days a fortnight, 12 hour days, I got every 2nd Sunday off. The closet decent sized place was Kalgoorlie, 400km south. Perth was an $800 round trip on an 18 seat plane, landing and taking off from dirt runways. Take off from Leinster, fly to Wiluna, fly from there to Meekatharra and then onto Perth. A return airfare from Perth to Melbourne in 1988/89 was $960, that was as cheap as you could get it. It cost me $130 to get over there on the train, I was in sit up for 3 days.

After 6 months I started doing shift work,they were a mixture of 8 and 12 hours shifts, on a Thursday, we used to do what was called a quick shift, 6am to 2pm then come back at 10pm and work until 6am, this was to transition us onto night shift. Eventually they all became 12 hour shifts, 7 days on, 3 days off, 7 nights on, 4 days off.

I eventually joined the Navy in 1992 when I was 24. Probably turned out really well doing it that way in the end.

You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

A friend of mine had it worse he used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat him around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if he was LUCKY!

And then his mate had it really tough. He and his siblings used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with their tongues. They had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when they got home, their Dad would slice them in two with a bread knife.

And this takes the cake. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing 'Hallelujah.'

But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.