Preview Changes vs Essendon - Battle of the bastards, 17th v 18th - It's a Wag-vasion

[Tulip]

No use dropping KK now, and as much as I'd like the axe to swing, we have nobody to bring in. Sounds like May is injured, so that's a reprieve for Hore.

 

[booshboy]

ISNT IT ******* WEIRD THAT KK LOOKED UNDERDONE

you would have thought we'd recruited Chris Judd the way we rushed him in, not a player who was potentially promising at the Suns three years ago then played **** all footy

 

[Daemon]

Honestly, it doesn't matter. Leave them all there for extra humiliation

 

[Demon 16]

Honestly, it doesn't matter. Leave them all there for extra humiliation

I actually think no changes could be the right thing to do.

We aren’t turning thumping like that around by shuffling deck chairs.

 

[Crusty Demon]

To be honest, i know we have so many players out of form or underdone, but we had 73 inside 50's against Geelong in Geelong! I'm not sure many teams would ever have done that. 25 more than them! Realistically that should equate to an 80pt win, not loss.

Clearly it's coaching that needs to be fixed. We're clearly getting the ball in the 50. Tighten up the defence somehow, and between the 300 coaches we seem to have, come up with.a Plan B for forward 50 entry! It was painfully obvious in JLT that we still had no plan moving the ball forward. Zero progression in regards to our main issue last year, with our superstar forward leaving. I'm more pi##ed off with the coaching staff than players.

Keep the same muppets out there, and give them.a plan that they will understand and can execute that doesn't just involve a long bomb into the F50!! Jeezus!!

 

[Daemon]

To be honest, i know we have so many players out of form or underdone, but we had 73 inside 50's against Geelong in Geelong! I'm not sure many teams would ever have done that. 25 more than them! Realistically that should equate to an 80pt win, not loss.

Clearly it's coaching that needs to be fixed. We're clearly getting the ball in the 50. Tighten up the defence somehow, and between the 300 coaches we seem to have, come up with.a Plan B for forward 50 entry! It was painfully obvious in JLT that we still had no plan moving the ball forward. Zero progression in regards to our main issue last year, with our superstar forward leaving. I'm more pi##ed off with the coaching staff than players.

Keep the same muppets out there, and give them.a plan that they will understand and can execute that doesn't just involve a long bomb into the F50!! Jeezus!!

I agree with you. And I love that avatar. Sums up being a Dees supporter

 

[gopies1981]

Out - Petracca
In - De Goey

How dare you

 

[Jon Koncak]

Any news on what May’s injury is?

 

[Topkent]

How dare you

Piss off

 

[mrmonkey]

To be honest, i know we have so many players out of form or underdone, but we had 73 inside 50's against Geelong in Geelong! I'm not sure many teams would ever have done that. 25 more than them! Realistically that should equate to an 80pt win, not loss.

Clearly it's coaching that needs to be fixed. We're clearly getting the ball in the 50. Tighten up the defence somehow, and between the 300 coaches we seem to have, come up with.a Plan B for forward 50 entry! It was painfully obvious in JLT that we still had no plan moving the ball forward. Zero progression in regards to our main issue last year, with our superstar forward leaving. I'm more pi##ed off with the coaching staff than players.

Keep the same muppets out there, and give them.a plan that they will understand and can execute that doesn't just involve a long bomb into the F50!! Jeezus!!

I think that's the thing, we dominated play early in the third quarter for no reward and they went forward once and scored. After that we capitulated which is understandable because the harder you work for no reward and then they get an easy goal you just stop working. We score a few early in the 3rd we don't lose by 80.

You could argue the same thing in the elimination final, we were lucky we smoked them early because we dominated the second quarter and scored only behinds where they kicked 2 straight. If ut was closer or we were behind we probably would have lost.

 

[blitznu]

our captain is the main hack who hacks it forward. bloke still thinks just banging it out of his area is the plan.. ****ing over him as a player playing Spargo in his role would instantly make us better. Atleast Spargo puts heat on stays out of the ****ing contest and actually has a look before kicking it. Id be dropping Petracca for another 1st gamer lets see what they can do under intense pressure cause we know what the rest bring **** all.
Out: Jones, Petracca, (May)
In: Spargo, Jordon/Baker, (Keilty)
I know Jones wont get dropped and thats the problem with our team

 

[Topkent]

Sparrow an Lockhart did **** all, probably gonna be the only one to say it

 

[blitznu]

Sparrow an Lockhart did **** all, probably gonna be the only one to say it

Lockhart tackled Duckwood 3 times good enough for me. Would rather give them games than drop them over our experienced flogs who constantly go to water

 

[schmuttt]

I’d drop Sparrow for Bedford purely for the reason that Bedford is an actual forward.

 

[Topkent]

Lockhart tackled Duckwood 3 times good enough for me. Would rather give them games than drop them over our experienced flogs who constantly go to water

Well keep giving em games and we will keep losing. They had 14 disposals between them an have no role in the side. Keep playing but we may aswell start looking towards the draft then.

 

[Topkent]

I’d drop Sparrow for Bedford purely for the reason that Bedford is an actual forward.

Kids done nothing wrong an I have no judgement on his future but he needs to develop as a midfielder, not spend 4 quarters completely lost as a small forward.

If they wanna play some kids atleast play Bedford an see if he can kick a couple from 10 touches

 

[schmuttt]

Kids done nothing wrong an I have no judgement on his future but he needs to develop as a midfielder, not spend 4 quarters completely lost as a small forward.

If they wanna play some kids atleast play Bedford an see if he can kick a couple from 10 touches

Exactly, he is better off playing on the ball all day for Casey. So, so sick of us shoehorning blokes into positions they don’t play. Jones is basically the new Tyson now in that he isn’t good enough to be a consistent starter in the center square so he is pushed onto a wing and looks even worse.

 

[Topkent]

Exactly, he is better off playing on the ball all day for Casey. So, so sick of us shoehorning blokes into positions they don’t play. Jones is basically the new Tyson now in that he isn’t good enough to be a consistent starter in the center square so he is pushed onto a wing and looks even worse.

Yep, it's worrying how limited the skill sets of the players we are drafting are.


As much as my sentimality wants to disagree with you might be right re - Jones

Although some of the disrespect to him still isn't on.

 

[Topkent]

Our last 5 games against the Cats we have won the inside 50 count by 25, 16, 13, 23 and 12 and yet they have beaten us 4 out of he 5 times.

 

[schmuttt]

Yep, it's worrying how limited the skill sets of the players we are drafting are.


As much as my sentimality wants to disagree with you might be right re - Jones

Although some of the disrespect to him still isn't on.

Our recruiting has been good under Taylor but if they try and draft any inside mids over the next two years they’re kidding. Hibberd and Jetta in honesty look past their best, they’re still good players but can’t see them reaching previous highs so we need more small defenders, outside mids are an obvious gaping hole and for small forwards it’s literally a flakey and ageing Garlett or an unproven kid in Bedford.

I still think we’ve got a good list but geez it’s got some holes that have been ignored for far too long now.

 

[Dory_77]

Our last 5 games against the Cats we have won the inside 50 count by 25, 16, 13, 23 and 12 and yet they have beaten us 4 out of he 5 times.

I reckon a lot of our losses last year we were up on i50s. Our hacks forward really don't translate to scores very often though. It's like an u/14s strategy, just boot it forward and pressure and eventually you'll get a goal, but it doesn't fly in the AFL.
Even a small improvement in efficiency should translate into a couple more wins.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

I reckon a lot of our losses last year we were up on i50s. Our hacks forward really don't translate to scores very often though. It's like an u/14s strategy, just boot it forward and pressure and eventually you'll get a goal, but it doesn't fly in the AFL.
Even a small improvement in efficiency should translate into a couple more wins.

Last year we demolished Port in inside 50s on a Friday night. Only lost by 10 points though, rather than 80.

 

[Topkent]

Our recruiting has been good under Taylor but if they try and draft any inside mids over the next two years they’re kidding. Hibberd and Jetta in honesty look past their best, they’re still good players but can’t see them reaching previous highs so we need more small defenders, outside mids are an obvious gaping hole and for small forwards it’s literally a flakey and ageing Garlett or an unproven kid in Bedford.

I still think we’ve got a good list but geez it’s got some holes that have been ignored for far too long now.

Has our drafting been good?

Salem Omac Jetta
Frost May Hunt
KK Oliver Brayshaw
Sparrow Weideman ANB
Melksham Tmac Fritsch
Gawn Harmes Viney
Jones Petracca Lockhart

I'd say only 4 players in our 22 were drafted well. Fritsch is a success but he's hardly a Taylor special given he was a gun in our VFL side

 

[dylan93]

Spargo
Preuss
Hore
Keilty
Bedford
Stretch
Maynard
Jordon
Baker
Petty
J. Wagner
Chandler
C. Wagner
Bradtke
T. Smith (according to injury list he should be right for next week)

Not much to rave about with our available players. Our bigger names seemed to step it up this week which was alright so in my eyes the midfield brigade are safe (incl. Petracca even though he did some woeful things. Might be an unpopular opinion but come at me).

Looks like we do need to change it up though and I think the axe needs to fall for at least 3-5 names. Need to try something different because whatever we're doing currently ain't working.

Also can't find too much info re: how Casey vs. Geelong went.

Out: 1 x Frost/O. McDonald/May (omitted/injured - May got injured last night if I recall?), Kolodjashnij, Hunt & Sparrow.

In: 1 x Hore/Keilty, Preuss (extra pair of hands down forward) & 2 x Spargo/Stretch/Baker/Wagner Bros/etc.

Boys need to work on decision making, aggression, tactics (hold it down and find an option rather than looking to move it on instantly). Also kick the bloody thing rather than handballing it 24/7.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

If this club is serious then Petracca is in the magoo's for many weeks, get some weight off,, start understanding that the game is played for 100 minutes , have an impact. FFS!

If our club was serious we’d drop half the team for the 2’s.

But just watch. Myers, Zacka, Baguley will get a walk up start.