News 2019 St Kilda Media Thread

[StCicatriz]

Which part is horrendous? Stereotyping is deeply ingrained in human cognitive processes. We do it all the time in all sorts of ways. In a perfect world, every person is judged entirely as an individual without any preconceptions of any sort, but no one has the time or resources for that. In recruiting it is probably even more prevalent than usual, and in this context, the only question that really matters is whether it is getting you accurate results. Our recruiters have learned what we all knew, getting boys from well off families with expensive educations does not accurately predict who will become successful football players.

the idea that a white guy with a private school education and a good family is the benchmark of "good character"

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

the idea that a white guy with a private school education and a good family is the benchmark of "good character"

he's just referencing the common attitude American sporting organisations have, or more specifically had. He's not endorsing the idea, you're reading way too much into it. For example listen to a sociology podcast, they're constantly stating common accepted beliefs so they can dissect it. They're not placing a value judgement on said belief.

Listen to the NYU intro to sociology lectures on youtube, not only are they super interesting by themselves, a big takeaway is that you need to be able to state the controversial belief to be able to address it.

And it's totally fair to say that minorities face more adversity and can often require more assistance in overcoming said adversity. It's not a weakness, it's just the reality of having the odds against you. Someone who grew up in an unstable and chaotic home is going to have more 'baggage' than someone with a typical privileged, safe environment.

Gallagher said nothing wrong, and that's coming from one of the more progressive, 'PC' members of this forum...

 

[sammm]

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2019-04-24/savage-proud-to-play-his-part

 

[sammm]

fisher is still involved at the Saints

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2019-04-24/sam-fisher-a-riverland-legend

 

[sammm]

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2019-04-24/brown-connected-coaches-key-to-rise

 

[Saint Watto]

Posted on AFL.com.au an hour ago.

"Saints set to swoop? Giant & Sun in St.Kilda's sights.

Adam Tomlinson...from GWS.

Jack Martin .....from the Suns.

Both are apparently on our radar.

 

[kosifantutti]

Posted on AFL.com.au an hour ago.

"Saints set to swoop? Giant & Sun in St.Kilda's sights.

Adam Tomlinson...from GWS.

Jack Martin .....from the Suns.

Both are apparently on our radar.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04/24/report-saints-interested-in-out-of-contract-giant-sun

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

Posted on AFL.com.au an hour ago.

"Saints set to swoop? Giant & Sun in St.Kilda's sights.

Adam Tomlinson...from GWS.

Jack Martin .....from the Suns.

Both are apparently on our radar.

tomlinson again.. these journos get one idea and run with it until the player retires.

Jack Martin though, yes pls

 

[jwikked]

the idea that a white guy with a private school education and a good family is the benchmark of "good character"

It's a stereotype - don't pretend like it doesn't exist.

 

[AirWinmar]

I out $100 on us to win Granny at $101 and $100 to play finals at (I think) around $46...

Id say the odds on you having at least 4600 spare dollars in september are looking pretty good

 

[gringo2011]

that certainly would make sense, as i know that is a big issue over there. government schools are seen in a very poor light.

the thing i don't understand is how that is relevant to us or the wider industry here as something to take back? unless he's saying that's a view shared by others within the industry e.g. others clubs or the AFL?

I'd say that there is a stigma attached to being outside the private school system when it comes to drafting. The irony is that hearing stories like Eddie Betts making his own way to footy training 45 minutes each way because his family couldn't afford a car and him not even being able to read or write until he became at AFL player suggests it's a narrow viewpoint that doesn't stack up to reality. I'd rather the committed kid who will give his all than a spoiled kid who will just go work in finance or fall back on a degree if footy gets too hard.

 

[Premium]

I'd say that there is a stigma attached to being outside the private school system when it comes to drafting. The irony is that hearing stories like Eddie Betts making his own way to footy training 45 minutes each way because his family couldn't afford a car and him not even being able to read or write until he became at AFL player suggests it's a narrow viewpoint that doesn't stack up to reality. I'd rather the committed kid who will give his all than a spoiled kid who will just go work in finance or fall back on a degree if footy gets too hard.

When it comes down to it , it's ability that gets you drafted and it will be the club that will have to straighten the kid up if he is going off the rails.

Dusty Martin is no brain surgeon same as De Goey , Ablett isn't to bright , the list goes on.

I figure up bringing comes into it when you are lining up kids that are close to the same ability and if they go to a private school they feel the kid could be more stable - easy cop out for draft selection.

 

[goodie23]

Not sure if this article belongs here

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2019-04-23/saints-partner-with-wilson-storage-southern-saints

Cynical me thinks this is just a good way to lure netballers over to our AFLW team

 

[plugger66]

When it comes down to it , it's ability that gets you drafted and it will be the club that will have to straighten the kid up if he is going off the rails.

Dusty Martin is no brain surgeon same as De Goey , Ablett isn't to bright , the list goes on.

I figure up bringing comes into it when you are lining up kids that are close to the same ability and if they go to a private school they feel the kid could be more stable - easy cop out for draft selection.

It’s obvious why private schools have a lot of players drafted. They play against better players as kids. By the way degoey is a private school boy scholarships help as well.

 

[goodie23]

It’s obvious why private schools have a lot of players drafted. They play against better players as kids. By the way degoey is a private school boy scholarships help as well.

Doesn't hurt that private schools troll through the public system and offer up scholarships to those with sporting ability.

 

[plugger66]

Doesn't hurt that private schools troll through the public system and offer up scholarships to those with sporting ability.

exactly. That makes the competition better

 

[saintsmania]

Andrew Basset..like how he says our focus is all about winning games as that would be a key driver to reduce our debt..

LISTEN: Saints to consider 'Warnie' for board position - http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-25/listen-saints-to-consider-warnie-for-board-position

https://files.whooshkaa.com/podcast...t_final.mp3?dist=whooshkaa-webplayer-download

 

[maanco]

Andrew Basset..like how he says our focus is all about winning games as that would be a key driver to reduce our debt..

LISTEN: Saints to consider 'Warnie' for board position - http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-25/listen-saints-to-consider-warnie-for-board-position

Bassett Trying to get purple flog on the saints side.

Pains me to listen to the idiots voice.

 

[plugger66]

Andrew Basset..like how he says our focus is all about winning games as that would be a key driver to reduce our debt..

LISTEN: Saints to consider 'Warnie' for board position - http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-25/listen-saints-to-consider-warnie-for-board-position

https://files.whooshkaa.com/podcast...t_final.mp3?dist=whooshkaa-webplayer-download

Saw them speaking at Sandy on Sunday but it was about Poker on tonight at Warnies not footy.

 

[maanco]

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[Sheepey]

Andrew Basset..like how he says our focus is all about winning games as that would be a key driver to reduce our debt..

LISTEN: Saints to consider 'Warnie' for board position - http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-25/listen-saints-to-consider-warnie-for-board-position

https://files.whooshkaa.com/podcast...t_final.mp3?dist=whooshkaa-webplayer-download

Don't want Warne as a board member. He's a really good ambassador for the club to get it more notice as he clearly absolutely loves it. But some of his opinions are genuinely weird i.e. wanting Darcy Short as Australia's test opener. Just dunno if he'd be a great influence at board level.

After the SCG test this year I got a photo with him and said "Saints 2019." He replied "Yeah, for the wooden spoon!" Clearly didn't have much confidence going into this season, but who could blame him!

 

[RWBlyf]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/st...d/news-story/6c284d75e25e255b7b7e330dfc538c39

 

[VDS66]

Warnie fmd.

Would only let him.MC a few nights, look after the end of season trips and make him cheersquad President.

 

[Verdun66]

Just listened to the Bassett/ Barrett interview on the AFL site. Think our president handled it very well. And good on him going and fronting that bloke.

But if it is at all possible my dislike for the Purple knob rose. I know I am biased, but I felt he was snide, condescending and patronising. He had a list of what he obviously considered ‘hard hitting’ questions, and after considered answers just in a bored way said ....’sure’. As if he didn’t really like or consider the responses. Rather than interact properly he just went on to his next what he thought was a probing question. The bloke is not that bright.

Frankly, I can’t see the guy changing his attitude towards us. Well done to the Prez for trying. And I certainly won’t be changing my attitude ..... I absolutely can’t stand him.

 

[austinnn]

Makes sense that the fella who runs an employment agency wants to find jobs for people.

Those agencies spend a lot of time trying in vain to find a job -any job - for dole recipients who* would prefer to just collect their cheques and continue with their lifestyles unimpeded.

*No, not all, not most, but some. I was one back when I was in a band, I'm ashamed to say. A real Fitzroy cliche back then. Used to have a councillor attempt to find me work, bit like that scene in Trainspotting, but without the drugs.